A few lessons learned after my first quarter as a sales leader

Qouta achievement is not the goal, the goal is to perfectly achieve the forecast goal, that is set monthly and can be changed whenever they want.  

Overachieving your plan is an indicator that you do not fully understand your business. 

Underachieving your plan is similar to overachieving however they are allowed to tell you daily that you will get fired if you can’t find the 60k you are currently short on a forecast of 9 million.  

Having more than one rep go over quota is bad. Having a rep achieve OTE is way worse, thanks to all those fun reductions and commission rate cuts for selling certain products over others.  

Never ask questions like, why did my plan change, what was the justification of reducing every regions plan but increasing mine.  

Oh and my absolute best lesson learned is to never challenge or question my regional manager. Every day I just say to myself I’m dumb, he is smart, I’m weak, he is strong, I’m slow and he is fast. I’m short(6 ft 1) and he is tall (5ft flat). 

It’s entirely possible that I may be just experiencing a very terrible boss, but hey. My team is killing it and when I get fired after the majority of my AE’s hit there quota and likely go way over OTE, I at least will have some fun stats to share in my resume for my next gig. 
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Pachacuti
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
Sounds toxic. Gonna be some lessons learned there for sure.
GOLFaaS
Politicker
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Sales Leader
Well yes it is. Agreed. I thought it would be different for some reason when I was the leader, nope. The reality is I’m just pissing in the wind and I can either outlast the bad leadership or make a move.
braintank
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Enterprise Account Executive
Wow it sounds like you work for a shitty org, no offense
GOLFaaS
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Sales Leader
None taken.
Diablo
Politicker
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Sr. AE
I disagree 100% sorry bro
GOLFaaS
Politicker
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Sales Leader
Hmm. Helpful. Thanks?
nomdeguerre
Executive
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Account executive
LOL… your boss has entered the chat.
Mobi85
Politicker
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Regional Sales Manager
shitty situation around and you may need to call their hand on it. Sorry you are dealing with it and the only thing you can continue to do is keep your head down and follow the course that you know is right and how you know it is right is if your team is performing and hitting their OTEs.
LordOfWar
Tycoon
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Blow it up
I get your sarcasm, this sounds like a shitty place to work.

Can you just go back to being an AE? Maybe asking about it might make them realize how shit they are at treating new leaders.
GOLFaaS
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Sales Leader
I have seriously been considering this for basically the entire quarter but kept thinking once we actually make the deals we knew we would the noise will stop. We made those deals and more. The noise increased. It’s why I posted this. Hoping to drag in some actual ideas so thanks for your comment.
LordOfWar
Tycoon
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Blow it up
It's a shitty situation for sure, but if you make a move it might signal that they could lose their whole sales team quickly and start to correct.

I'm new in sales management and my boss kind of knows if I'm not taken care of I'll just go back to being an IC. He has said he will then hire a sales manager though, and knows I don't want to report to anyone else so it is kind of a stand-off.
GOLFaaS
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Sales Leader
Great point and it’s time to play that hand for me.
jefe
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This place seems awful and toxic af.

I've managed under a toxic director before, it took a massive toll and almost never ends well.

Seems like this might not be the best spot for you, or anyone really....
TennisandSales
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Head Of Sales
jesus christ Gaas, sounds like you have a miserable job.

Will we be seeing a post from you soon about looking for a new gig???

I would love to know more about why over achieving is bad and having reps hit OTE is bad. please elaborate on your view and your company's view/
nomdeguerre
Executive
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Account executive
Because then you have to pay them.
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
Exactly. It doesn't make sense, and sounds like a no-win situation for sure.
UrAssIsSaaS
Arsonist
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SaaS Eater
Is there more to this story? Seems wild that you would be punished for over achieving?
GOLFaaS
Politicker
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Sales Leader
The director says this, often, “His superpower is motivating and propelling human capital”. He actually believes that you should push people regardless of result, win lose or even. Ever heard that line? I surely have not lol.
UrAssIsSaaS
Arsonist
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SaaS Eater
Pushing people regardless of result isnt unheard of in CEOs and sales leaders, but that contradicts what you are saying unless I am not understanding correctly.

Pushing people can create a super toxic environment not doubt but thats different than shitting on someone for over achieving.
GOLFaaS
Politicker
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Sales Leader
I see what your saying but this person thinks he is motivating and pushing but his method is anything but motivating. And it mainly comes across as defensive, belittling and just straight dumping on specific people. It’s all hidden behind closed doors mostly and targeted.
UrAssIsSaaS
Arsonist
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SaaS Eater
Ya that sounds miserable. All honesty id leave if I were you.

I just like to play devils advocate because the WR can turn into a huge echo chamber when there is often more to the story.

Sounds like thats not the case here though and youre just in a toxic environment
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