Am I selling vaporware???

I work for a tiny consultancy with a niche - but great - product. I've been able to significantly increase sales, to the point where we've had to grow our implementation team from 1 subject matter expert (SME) to 3.5 (the 0.5er is becoming full time soon).


For our flagship service, an SME dedicating their time to a project can complete a work order as little as 4 hours or maybe up to 15 hours - but on average about 8 hours. However, SMEs have a lot of other stuff going on, which means I think it would be reasonable to ask for 2 work order completions per week per SME.


I've noticed we've had quite a backlog these days, so I finally looked into it. Not only does my CSM show 30+ work orders in backlog, but I have 40 more incoming.


I set the expectation during the sales cycle that it would take about 6-8 weeks to fulfill the work order. Historically, we've had ups and downs in volume, but we're usually able to exceed those timelines, although I will say that we've had fairly regular occurrences where the work is backed up 10 weeks or even 12, which makes me uncomfortable.


Well - I've looked into the current backlog and the work being produced in the past several months. It turns out we are only completing less than 3 work orders per week for the entire team of 3 full timers and 1 part timer (in fact, the part timer has been more productive than the full timers, even though he's much newer).


The math ain't mathin' - this means that for the 70+ work orders averaging we have a 25 week backlog, vs the 6-8 weeks that we tell customers.


I've asked leadership about this repeatedly and they say they're going to address the issue, but there are no immediate changes. The CEO is going to start going into the planning meetings... but that got delayed two weeks due to her scheduling.


What would you do in my (a salesperson's) shoes?


Poll is up but I'd also welcome suggestions.


P.S. No, I won't quit - the money's pretty good and I've got it pretty good in my silo at this company.



What would you do in my shoes?

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BigShrimpin
Politicker
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Account executive
You don't have a moral responsibility here as long as you set appropriate expectations which it seems like you are.

As long as you get paid on the order not delivery just keep at it but i would jump ship to a more stable competitor if i was you.
pitchandputt
Executive
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Account Executive
Well, I set the expectation that it would take 6-8 weeks - but I know it's going to take about 25 weeks to clear the backlog, so what I've said is not correct.
I get what you're saying about jumping ship, but honestly I'm killin' it here, so I'm a bit reluctant to move.
BigShrimpin
Politicker
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Account executive
just set the correct expectations then if people dont want to buy at 25 weeks thats clear cause for the delivery team to actually get support to deliver. as long as money comes in and nobodies churning theres 0 incentive to improve
TennisandSales
Politicker
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Head Of Sales
I would keep doing what you are doing. Sounds like there is solid demand and you are bringing in the right customers.

Are you responsible for the customer after the sign? If a customer complains about a work order taking too long that should not reflect negatively on you.

If your company cant keep up with the demand that is not your problem to solve. that is the CEOs problem.

keep crushing it and brining in the 💸💸💸💸💸
pitchandputt
Executive
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Account Executive
I am not technically responsible, but it's the classic well-intentioned early startup toxicity scenario of everyone having to do multiple things. I realize that poor implementation should not reflect negatively on me, but I feel like it does when the reality is sooooo far from the expectations I set (25 weeks vs 6-8 weeks).
jefe
Arsonist
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Were I you, I'd keep going while managing expectations and putting feelers out. Something is definitely off here...

When are you paid? Most of the time commission on services are paid out after those services are rendered (and usually paid for).
pitchandputt
Executive
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Account Executive
We ask for payment upfront and I get paid monthly, one month after the close of month (i.e. March commissions are paid in May).
jefe
Arsonist
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That’s not bad. I guess if your company didn’t get paid until completion of services they’d be pushing a little harder to do the actual work…
unclespacejam
Politicker
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ur dad’s brother
I’d be selling my asshole off while I put feelers out “just in case”

Make hay while the suns shining boi
jefe
Arsonist
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Filth
Tycoon
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Live Filthy or Die Clean
Ok - so I hit "keep sellin" but as an account manager who has to deal with this shit and go call my product/implementation team and executives out for this shit, you need to not accept the message that this is going to be addressed. I would personally (I'm in office a lot, don't know your scene) walk into whatever executive oversees the work orders EVERYDAY until they address it. if you aren't in office, call them EVERYDAY and you can mask it as cute, just looking for an update on addressing this issues that may make me a liar to my prospects/clients but let your team/org know that this isn't going away and eventually this will catch up and shit will hit the fan.
Keep selling but start getting under peoples skin until they figure out how to honor the expectations you're setting with your prospects and clients. Pain makes people evolve and change inside orgs and out, don't be a part of the complacency be a part of the solution.
pitchandputt
Executive
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Account Executive
I've been raising the alarms for weeks. Heck, I've even offered to help - there's a non-technical element of implementation that I could do, which would likely buy an extra 1-2 work orders' worth of time per week for the SMEs.
The more I type, the more I am kinda realizing this should not be my problem whatsoever and I've gone more than above and beyond. Hmm.
Filth
Tycoon
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Live Filthy or Die Clean
Fair point and it's not your problem as longa s you can look prospects in the eyes and what you say is what they get. The 2nd they call you out on the shit that happens in the turn on it's your problem.
Pachacuti
Politicker
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
Honestly this is above your pay grade. As long as you’re getting paid on the deals, it’s not your problem. Mngt knows. And there are probably things going on you’re not aware of.
pitchandputt
Executive
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Account Executive
While I do know that technically there are things going on that I am not aware of, I find it hard to live with myself when I so blatantly set up my customers to be disappointed. I sit in on the weekly planning meetings and I can see we're consistently missing deadlines, so it's not like I am missing some context on that.
Pachacuti
Politicker
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
Yah it sucks. Your choices are to live with it, rage quit, or provide a realistic expectation to your clients. Of the 3 id choose the first option and quietly look for a new job.
Armageddon
Opinionated
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Enterprise Account Executive
keep on truckin'
Revenue_Rambo
Politicker
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Director, Revenue Enablement
When the SLA is missed how much blow back are you getting from the customer?
pitchandputt
Executive
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Account Executive
Personally not much and it doesn't affect my comp. But there's been churn for sure.
Revenue_Rambo
Politicker
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Director, Revenue Enablement
If they are calling you and it’s not effecting your comp just put your head down and keep grinding.

Sucks because you are one of the good reps that genuinely cares about setting proper expectations, but this is out of your control and above your pay grade.
FinanceEngineer
Politicker
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Sr Director, sales and partnerships
You have to keep selling, but you need to set expectations or stall while you figure out how. You don’t need bad experiences following you
pitchandputt
Executive
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Account Executive
The thing is, we pride ourselves and are known as being extremely customer centric in a niche which is known to not be. So, yeah, I really hate to put customers in a bind.
Sunbunny31
Arsonist
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
How much do you think you’ll sell if you’re honest about the timeline?

How much will you sell when word gets out about the reality of the timeline?

There’s significant risk here. Particularly if you reach a point of enough disgruntled customers finding ways to opt out for contracts not being honored. This should be something that is internally flagged as a significant risk, and lead to better procedures for onboarding and perhaps increased headcount so your company can execute to expectations. If you keep having the success you’re having, you guys are going to reach critical mass and it won’t be pretty. So, what would I do if I were you? Bring this up in your 1:1 with your manager, but don’t stop selling. Clearly it’s a good solution, you’re a good rep, and your company is a victim of its own success. Hopefully the implementation teams can get this sorted out soon.
Chep
WR Officer
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Bitcoin Adoption Specialist
Hard to sell when you know the end product is facing these types of challenges. A fine line between making good money and knowing your reputation is on the line and clients might be mad if they buy. Hopefully the team gets their sh** together
pitchandputt
Executive
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Account Executive
Update in any case anyone cares :)

I've continued to sell but we've had customer after customer demanding refunds. It's not just the backlog and delays - product is going to the shitter and leadership is not willing to implement easy, common sense solutions.
I know I said I'm not going to leave, but I'm not able to get customer references or (honestly) give any glowing stats. Sales have taken a nosedive. Likely not the best job market, but I'm going to start buckling down and starting my job search in earnest.
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