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Appropriate time to use PTO?

My SDR just said that he has to take time off because he believes he contracted an STD. I appreciated the honesty, but I was unaware if that fell into the vacation time category or sick time category. I also think it was a bullshit lie because there's no way this kid pulls. Any thoughts on this.... Should I call him out on his BS lies or should I let him take the time off due to the fact he was comfortable enough to let me know he contracted an STD?

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spoderman
Arsonist
+10
Friendly Neighborhood Spoderman
"there's no way this kid pulls" I'm dying from this LMAO you savage. I think he's bluffing and going for the shock factor thinking you won't question it. Also, that would fall under sick time, you can deny PTO so if you think he's lying then just deny it.Β 
WCK
Notorious Answer
+13
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
I mean look, as someone who gets preventative testing done because it's smart, you don't really need to take PTO for an STD unless it's putting you in the hospital last I checked lmao. For example. guys could have the clap and not even know because they'd be symptomless. That being said, it'd still fall under sick time so yeah he'd be gucci lmao.

I say give it to him, dude just put his dick on the line for a day off and I find it hilarious lmao
DeskPhoneDestroyer
Catalyst
+5
Team Lead
I wish I could show you why I don't believe him, but turned out he wasnt lying. I feel dumb.Β 
funcoupons
WR Officer
+12
that's queen coups to u
Pls don't tell me he showed you photo proof πŸ˜‘
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funcoupons
WR Officer
+12
that's queen coups to u
lollll if he had the balls to let u know he has an infected dick I think he deserves the day off.
slaydie
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
Agree - why do we feel the need to police people? If someone needs to take a day off, let them. The only way you are ever going to get performance from people is if you give them autonomy. So enough with the micromanaging let the kid figure out his STD issue haha
BigCheese
Notorious Answer
+14
Agency Recruiter | Coors Knight
"because there's no way this kid pulls"Β 

lmaoooooooo don't kick him while he's downΒ 
ExtremeVibeChecker44
Praised Answer
+2
Inside Sales
Scrolled all the way down to here and I'm still literally laughing out loud at this part
DeskPhoneDestroyer
Catalyst
+5
Team Lead
Update: I told him I didn't believe him that he contracted an STD within the last 2 weeks. He then went on to describe the symptoms as a liquid coming from his dick, he had to take 25+ pisses today and they all were excruciating, and then asked if he could show me for proof. So the good news is he has the clap so it'll go away, the bad news is he showed me the proof and my eyes haven't stopped bleeding. I think I'm going to take the month off or until his zpack dosage is finished.Β 
Gyro25
Politicker
+7
BDR - Enterprise and Partnerships
That's a power move. Anyone ballsy enough to show his manager his dick is management material.Β 
funcoupons
WR Officer
+12
that's queen coups to u
Bro who the fuck offers to show their manager their dick? That's some chaotic energy.Β 

I'm deadΒ 
InQ5WeTrust
Arsonist
+9
Sales Savages, what is our profession? Trauma!
Wow turns out the clap was no 🧒

I'll see myself out.Β 
BigCheese
Notorious Answer
+14
Agency Recruiter | Coors Knight
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this hurts my head
paddy
WR Officer
+11
Account Executive
I like your style
newboy
Fire Starter
+2
Complete Sales team
You asked for it πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

I don't even wanna think what that would be like




CaneWolf
Politicker
+12
Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract
WHY did you ask to see the proof?
slaydie
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
Second that...seems like a huge HR violation right there. You are a better manager than that @Deskphonedestroyer, I hope you don't repeat this. I would lose my shit if someone asked me to prove that I have an STD or any other medical condition.
Kinonez
Celebrated Contributor
+9
WR Enthusiast
THIS KID HAS BALLS!!! hahaha I'm loving this story, I would have never agreed to see proof xD
Incognito
WR Officer
+11
Master of Disaster
Greatest thing I’ve read all day πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ Also a major HR violation but I won’t tell πŸ˜‚
SiliconBBQ
Politicker
+4
The Metal Rooster
you had it coming.... that's hilarious all-around
AE
AE88
Praised Answer
+2
Account Executive
Sucks that i was able to diagnose it a few sentences in
CuriousFox
WR Officer
+13
Senior Account Executive
Let him have the day off man. Points for creativity.
paddy
WR Officer
+11
Account Executive
If she's anything below a 6.5 then don't give him the PTO.Β 
BigCheese
Notorious Answer
+14
Agency Recruiter | Coors Knight
"Alright listen here *insert SDR's name*, pics or it didn't happen."
paddy
WR Officer
+11
Account Executive
"Listen Randolph, I'm going to need you to piss in this cup. If I don't hear you screaming in pain then pick up the phone and start dialing."
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Whosaidit
Politicker
+7
Business Development Representative
I would personally let it ride, medical records are personal
Macdaddy
Arsonist
+7
Team Lead
Always a tricky subject, I have run into this a time or two myself... @paddyΒ care to weigh in on this one?
SandwichMan
Catalyst
+7
BDR Team Lead
I would reach out to the gals/guys that your SDR has been seeing recently and conduct interviews with them to gauge his situation. If he can't provide you with a couple names, then you know he's a lying piece of trash who just wants PTO to jack off into each one of his socks, which have names.
di
dialguy
Good Citizen
SDR
Does he have nudes with the timestamp of their supposed date of intercourse?
RealEstateVeep
Politicker
+6
VP of Real Estate
Of course a signed consent permission slip too.
InQ5WeTrust
Arsonist
+9
Sales Savages, what is our profession? Trauma!
Sticky situation - is he taking off time to get tests done or to like process?Β 


DeskPhoneDestroyer
Catalyst
+5
Team Lead
He got the test done today, and said he's in so much pain he can't work til after the fourth. I let him put it in as sick time.Β 
closingwithabeerinhand
Valued Contributor
+2
Director of Business Development
Y'all are wild. I'm cackling over here.Β 
Kinonez
Celebrated Contributor
+9
WR Enthusiast
I would never say I have an STD as an excuse, but that's just me. If you really think he's bluffing you can have a one on one with with, to see if he "cums clean" but if you are not sure I wouldn't risk it.Β 
Accidental_Sales_Guy
Politicker
+3
Account Executive
If he's not self-aware enough to withhold that information from management, I don't want to know what he's telling your prospects on the phones.

Grant the time off, but do him and your company the service of teaching the kid how to behave in a corporate environment.Β Β 
DungeonsNDemos
Politicker
+10
Rolling for Initiative
Posts like this are why the war room was made :)
inboundsalesrep
Politicker
+7
SDR
I think it all depends on the kind of STD some are permanent. So would he have to be permanently on vacation time?Β 
hurtscuzimold
Opinionated
+5
Dude abiding
Is it too cruel to ask for a doctors note?
Trinity
WR Officer
+7
BusDev
🀣This post just made my week!
CaneWolf
Politicker
+12
Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract
Dude, he's probably freeeeeeeaking out. Give the man his PTO.
AlphaCharlie
Arsonist
+8
Account executive
Oh no, pls noΒ 
aussiebro
Opinionated
+4
Strategic Account Manager
Tell him the STD will hurt way less than the catch up he’ll have to do when you bury him in emails πŸ™‹πŸΌβ€β™‚οΈ
The_raging_racoon
Opinionated
+1
BDR
Tough topic but can you not just ask him to bring a sick note from the doctor if he wants the day off?
ragnarlothbrok
Politicker
+7
Key account manager
quick visit to the doctors and he will be right as rain, how much PTO has he asked for? hours or days?Β 
Avon
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
This is my favorite post so far
DrunkenArt
Politicker
+7
Sales Representative
LMAO 'No way this kid pulls." In all honesty, PTO is PTO, they can use it whenever they want (within reason) and for whatever reason.Β 
DwideSchrude
Opinionated
+2
sales exec
Uggos get chlamydia tooΒ 
GDO
Politicker
+7
BDM
He s capable of working with an STD right? So it’s PTO.Β 
whissspy
Opinionated
+1
Commercial AE
You only YOLO once.
TheRealVladimirPutin
Opinionated
+5
AE
Unequivocally sick leave, and sounds like a questionable and unreliable employee
Ch
ChunkyButters
Politicker
+9
AE
Honestly, this kinda pissed me off.

Not the kids honesty, but your response. Do you not trust your team members? Sure, he probably shouldn't be discussing this in a professional setting, but your trying to find out if he's lying. Maybe he told you about the STD because he didn't think you'd give him the PTO unless it was legitimate.

I've never had to give a reason for PTO....ever. My leadership trusts that I'm adult enough to balance my work and personal life. I don't abuse the PTO, and get my shit done.Β 
DeskPhoneDestroyer
Catalyst
+5
Team Lead
Dont be soft. I made cold calls with the clap. Still produced. We're telephone terrorists. Cant be soft in sales. You would never get hired at my company.Β 
slaydie
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
I couldn't have said it better. I totally agree with you here. This all makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable
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