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Are you truly able to vacation? While having deals in process, emails, etc?

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🙏 Mental Wellness
🧢 Sales Management
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rharris415
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+2
Founder
I was taught a few tips I am happy to share...  


My favorite is #2 because it works and people comment on receiving it all the time. 


Remember, it's ok to not let other people's questions become your burden when you are on vacation. Sometimes they need reminders.



1. Its ok to allow 30 minutes/ day to review emails (if you are disciplined to stop at 30 minutes)

2. The OOO message is CRITICAL!  Here's one I use... 

Subject Line:  OOO - Is this an emergency?

Hey ____, 

Thanks for the email. I am on vacation and unplugging completely. Here's what that means for you. 

1. If you are a customer please ___________. 
2. If you need X, please contact _____. 
3. If you need A, please contact _____. 
4. I will be back on ____ and if you need me on that date, please let me know so I can bring you to the top of the email stack. If not let me know when you need an answer. 
5. If it's a true emergency please text me at 415.596.9149 and then call me so I know to pick up. 
rharris415
Praised Answer
+2
Founder
Oh, and I am an Inbox 0 person. It's easier to maintain Inbox0 than it is to get there, but its worth it. 
Spade
Arsonist
+5
Global Business Development Manager
This is great!! Thanks for sharing!
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beerisforclosers
Politicker
+8
Account Manager
LOVE your OOO - thank you for sharing!
rharris415
Praised Answer
+2
Founder
Does this mean I get a beer?  My pleasure
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mythbuster
Catalyst
+4
Account Executive
Thanks for sharing this.. It can work like a template for sure 
Salespreuner
Big Shot
+11
Regional Sales Director
great this is - thanks for sharing!!!!
kiraugais
WR Officer
+11
I work on the WR product
I came back from PTO yesterday. Took almost a 2 week PTO, and 💯recommend to take at least 2 weeks to truly relax. It took me a whole week to NOT think about work.. and when I came back I realized everything was fine.. everyone was fine 😂.
Spade
Arsonist
+5
Global Business Development Manager
The anxiety 🤣
Jbeans
Praised Answer
+3
Director of Sales
Can’t even imagine a 2 week block of time off? So smart bc it takes 3 days for me to settle the d down and rid my body of the sales anxiety 100%!! 
kiraugais
WR Officer
+11
I work on the WR product
So take it! 😀 the more people do it the more it becomes normality! My colleagues are also considering it now after I took it 🤪 setting a healthy trend for my coworkers 
CoorsKing
WR Officer
+11
King of the Coors Knights
No, but it is something I have been trying to get better at. I have a very hard time completely detaching from work. I could be on PTO on a beach, and if I get an email I have been waiting for or something related to a deal, I will always respond. I am curious how others deal with it.
Spade
Arsonist
+5
Global Business Development Manager
I am exactly the same way. I always respond if it's something I have been waiting for or can push the deal. I can't help it, I wish I could detach from work but can't see myself doing it mentally. If the deal is lost, I won't enjoy my vacation 🤷🏼
YoungMoney
Good Citizen
+2
Director of Sales
I totally did not answer my phone or respond to emails for 10 days. Got back to work yesterday. I also didn't look at social media. If you can't decompress completely, you're wasting time on vacation. 

Also we're all in sales. No customer needs to talk to us that badly, just managers desperate to BS their forecast to senior leadership lol. 
Spade
Arsonist
+5
Global Business Development Manager
Wow, hats off to you wish I could do that. 

It's definitely the managers 🤣
CuriousFox
WR Officer
+11
Senior Account Executive
Yup.

My boss can handle my stuff. If it's an emergency he has my personal cell. My work cell stays off.
Spade
Arsonist
+5
Global Business Development Manager
Good on you 🥃🥃
HarryCaray
Notable Contributor
+14
Regional VP
It’s tough, but if you have a good manager who has your back and do some good planning/coordination with him/her to cover anything major, you can get it done. I’m not very good at taking PTO myself. I need to get better at it. 
Allisce
Politicker
+4
Account Executive
  I start setting the expectation with my prospects a week or two out that I won’t be available. I trust my backup but I want him to do as little as possible, we both share this philosophy. I do a quick glance through emails once or twice a day to see if there are things I can delete or if it’s something urgent. I don’t answer my phone unless prearranged. I have an out of office set with my backups contact info on it. All that being said I am strategic when I take time off. Normally significant vacations are at the beginning of the quarter or month, I rarely take time off the last month of the quarter, rarely around month end, and never after thanksgiving. 
Spade
Arsonist
+5
Global Business Development Manager
That was refreshing to read 
MMMGood
Celebrated Contributor
+10
Senior Account Executive
Nope. I've never set an OOO and never will. 

Sure I'll try to disconnect as much as I can. But I'm not going to lose progress on deals. 
Spade
Arsonist
+5
Global Business Development Manager
 🦈 
Irltech
Senior Account Executive
I think it’s all changed during the pandemic. I was very much a “out the door at 5” type of person. In Europe we are still pretty locked down so there seems to be a mix of boredom that allows the work life balance to get off centre. Stakeholders booking meetings and unapologetic calls on the mobile. Now I take liberal coffee breaks when and if I can as I feel formal PTO is a myth right now.
Coffeesforclosers
Notable Contributor
+11
Director Sales and Market Development
Haven't had a shut down vacation in a decade sadly. 
Spade
Arsonist
+5
Global Business Development Manager
Harsh
Coffeesforclosers
Notable Contributor
+11
Director Sales and Market Development
For realz
DadFather
Politicker
+5
Enterprise Account Executive
It’s hard to not look at email after hours god forbid time off. Really need to work on shutting down and letting customers know it can wait. 
Spade
Arsonist
+5
Global Business Development Manager
For sure 
goose
Politicker
+11
Sales Executive
One day (maybe) people will realize that email isn't as important as they think it is.  The world is not going to stop if you don't check your email.
StringerBell
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
It’s so hard. I honestly find dealing with current deals is fine because I’m chasing most people. What I find more difficult to manage are new inbound leads. If someone wants a demo it’s hard to be like “ok cool, can it wait 2 weeks?” 
Spade
Arsonist
+5
Global Business Development Manager
Solid point 🦾
beerisforclosers
Politicker
+8
Account Manager
I'm an always on person, but I'd really like to retrain my brain to take a real vacation. Props to people who unplug. I mean it. I think that's such a special skill to be able to compartmentalize your life and leave work behind for a time period.
Spade
Arsonist
+5
Global Business Development Manager
Completely!
ChefK
Good Citizen
SDR
Yes I’m going to Mexico In 2 weeks. You just have to stay organized and set goals/hit quota early if you are nervous. 
Enterpriceysales
Business Development Manager
Sorry, can't relate..even my actual vacations are not vacations..!!
justsignit
Contributor
+3
Account Executive
short answer, nope! 

Spade
Arsonist
+5
Global Business Development Manager
🙅🏻‍♂️
CaneWolf
Politicker
+12
Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract
I can usually vacation but have definitely had some deals flare up as I've been on PTO which fucking sucks. I'd say it's probably 80% carefree.
Jbeans
Praised Answer
+3
Director of Sales
Yes - and no. I look at it like my own mini business running inside of a bigger machine. When I’m on vacation I typically check in once a day - I have an out of office but also a back up rep to cover anything urgent (that was pre pandemic bc where am I really going now anyway?) when money calls, I’ll answer. 
Lambda
Politicker
+6
Sales Consultant
Work is just that, work. Your employer wants you to disconnect. So many benefits from coming back recharged and refreshed. You are seeing a change for sure in all industries!
Chep
WR Officer
+10
Business Development Team Lead
I read the 4 hour work week and it really helped remind me if I were to quit I’d be replaced so enjoy your vacay because that goes for almost every job 
goose
Politicker
+11
Sales Executive
If you can't take a vacation as a salesperson then you are a shitty sales person.
Th
Theloanemperor
Opinionated
+3
Loan Officer
nopeeee - i'm a loan officer and the second i leave for vacation, my phone starts ringing like the dickens. lol
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