sahil
Notable Contributor
26
Deepak Chopra of Sales
What is the purpose of this post? Is there a joke here I'm missing, or are we just intentionally trying to ruin the War Room and turn it into another place filled with shitty content?
paddy
WR Officer
8
Director of Business Development
With the amount of valuable content I've provided, I don't think I'm intentionally trying to ruin the WR. The only thing that's ruining the WR is allowing unvetted members to flood the site with shitty content. I'm simply mocking them.
sahil
Notable Contributor
2
Deepak Chopra of Sales
I would love your suggestions on how to "vet" members and what determines what is "shitty" content.
sahil
Notable Contributor
1
Deepak Chopra of Sales
And yes, you've provided a ton of value historically to the war room. But posts like this doesn't make me feel great tbh
paddy
WR Officer
3
Director of Business Development
You called out my content for being shitty. Why don't you explain what determines that?
paddy
WR Officer
3
Director of Business Development
I already provided a suggestion at a WR officer's dinner. Institute a social credit score. There's my suggestion. Happy to discuss further if you want.
CCP
Opinionated
4
VP, Business Development
Mom and dad are fighting again...ย 
Incognito
WR Officer
7
Master of Disaster
So post some good content @sahil Lord knows us โ€œofficersโ€ have done it all - good, bad, funny, insightful, helpful, feel good, shitpostโ€ฆ.. and stuck with it through the different waves of users upvoting, downvoting, applauding, bashing, trollingโ€ฆALL. OF. IT. And we arenโ€™t even your employees.
sahil
Notable Contributor
0
Deepak Chopra of Sales
Let's discuss offline. I'll ping you.
sahil
Notable Contributor
0
Deepak Chopra of Sales
For which I am deeply grateful. But posts like this aren't it. Do you disagree with that Incognito?
sahil
Notable Contributor
0
Deepak Chopra of Sales
That is a great suggestion - and yes I'd love to suggest my friend.
Incognito
WR Officer
6
Master of Disaster
I donโ€™t even need to answer that question @sahilย . You have the ability to see the engagement numbers, while I do not.ย 

If you want the WR shaped into something, you have to actively mold it or others will do it for you.ย 

If a shitpost mocking the crap actually gets you engaged, then this is the most valuable contribution weโ€™ve had in awhile.ย 
CoorsKing
WR Officer
14
Retired King of the Coors Knights
This post technically has more engagement than all of the legit posts today. I think there are multiple underlying issues here. I post serious threads because I want to benefit people. But, if I simply wanted engagement, honestly this is the route to go at the moment.
CCP
Opinionated
4
VP, Business Development
I disagree. I saw paddy's name and knew immediately that it was satirical. As did many other people who commented.ย 
bellaccione
Valued Contributor
2
Growth Consultant
LOLOLOLย 
well, I - for one - get the humor.
I'd like to PM you. How do I do that on this platform?
CoorsKing
WR Officer
1
Retired King of the Coors Knights
DMs are coming friend!
bellaccione
Valued Contributor
0
Growth Consultant
bet.ย 
bellaccione
Valued Contributor
0
Growth Consultant
got a question. can you DM me (twitter) @bellacione ?
CoorsKing
WR Officer
0
Retired King of the Coors Knights
Says your profile doesnโ€™t exist, check your security settings
bellaccione
Valued Contributor
0
Growth Consultant
definitely exists:ย  https://twitter.com/bellaccione
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
6
โ˜•๏ธ
Heyย @sahilย are you ok? Not trying to be a sarcastic prick or snarky--being genuine. We are here because we obviously have time and energy invested, but we can't be a part of a community that is often left unchecked until you suddenly appear and play bad cop moderator. I came back from the dead because I cared that much about this place.ย Help us help you.ย 
sahil
Notable Contributor
3
Deepak Chopra of Sales
We just posted last week that we are building in full time moderation, specifically because I don't want anyone to feel this community is "left unchecked".

And yes I'm fine - just not thrilled when I see posts like this. Our collective goal here is to create a place where sales professionals can do better at their jobs, be more successful, and crush quota together. How does this help us do that?
paddy
WR Officer
8
Director of Business Development
We're also sick of posts like this. This is a sarcastic post to point out that we're tired of it too. If you're taking the sarcasm as hostile, sure, it's a bit hostile but we're also as fed up as you are.
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
11
โ˜•๏ธ
I believe they call this a microscope post. Something that draws your attention to the greater problem by shoving it under a microscope. Now that you're aware of the bacteria on the slide, we can take steps as a community to clean it up.
sahil
Notable Contributor
0
Deepak Chopra of Sales
I appreciate that my friend - duly noted.
CCP
Opinionated
3
VP, Business Development
Because sales is hard. We need to unwind, laugh, and not take ourselves so seriously all the time. You misread this post, @sahil. And that's okay. But let's move on, shall we?
TheRealPezDog
Notable Contributor
2
Account Manager
Out of curiosity, is there a specific criteria for what is considered a "shit-post"ย  I have really low self-esteem so I consider ALL of my posts to be "shit-posts" but I'm genuinely curious on this one, is it just because this question has been over done and already posted about 1000 times?ย ย 
funcoupons
WR Officer
3
๐Ÿ‘‘
A shit post is just a joke post, not meant to be taken seriously.ย 
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
10
โ˜•๏ธ
Pad of a paper, a mechanical bic pencil, and vigor.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
5
๐ŸฆŠ
Bright colored post-it notes too.
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
5
โ˜•๏ธ
Pink is follow-up, blue is do not contact and green is MONEY BABY.
bellaccione
Valued Contributor
0
Growth Consultant
hahahaha! hey man - i want to PM you. How do i do that on this platform?
funcoupons
WR Officer
8
๐Ÿ‘‘
have u tried posting a poll?
sahil
Notable Contributor
10
Deepak Chopra of Sales
What an awesome conversation to see taking place between WR Officers - this is exactly we had in mind when launching the War Room: a place filled with shittier content than even LNKD.
funcoupons
WR Officer
7
๐Ÿ‘‘
It's unfortunate you chose to comment and chide Officers over a silly joke post instead of participate in one of the many thoughtful, insightful, and helpful posts any one of us has posted over the last few months. I know you're busy which makes your appearances rare - why not use them to promote the posts you like to see?ย 
sahil
Notable Contributor
1
Deepak Chopra of Sales
I do, constantly. And you alone create SO much good content my friend. Truly.

But posts like this rise to the top of the feed because they got a lot of engagement, and then we get members who email us (privately) wanting to delete their accounts because they joined in order to have thoughtful discussions around sales, not participate in something that feels like a troll-fest.ย 

I'm happy to discuss 1:1 with you funcoupons. Will ping you.
funcoupons
WR Officer
6
๐Ÿ‘‘
I think the question needs to be: why do the silly and joke posts rise to the top? In my eyes, there's no shortage of good content posted on a weekly basis...but I do notice that serious topics get way less replies than shitposts/off topic posts. Either this community isn't attracting the right kind of user, or people prefer a lighthearted tone vs serious discussion. I'm not sure, but there's obviously some kind of disconnect going on.

For anyone who wants to delete their account, I suggest they put some effort in and participate. If you want to see posts on topic x, post some! People can't just lurk or give low effort replies to everything and expect others to bring the value...like I said in another thread, the grand majority of quality posts and replies for that matter come from the same 10-20 people day after day. As one of those people, I can tell you we do get tired of taking the time to post thoughtful content but instead see threads about video games or repeat topics posted simply to get hundreds of poll responses garner more attention. So yeah, we end up shitposting sometimes - because at least it's funny and brings us some value in the time we spend here, which is entertainment.ย 
sahil
Notable Contributor
1
Deepak Chopra of Sales
That's super fair funcoupons - like I said already, I deeply appreciate all of your thoughtful posts. And to the point re: engagement, that's exactly what I posted about last week.
BmajoR
Arsonist
7
Account Executive
Hi, welcome to the WR. Have you read the FAQ? It has some great information in there. Mods are working on a CRM subsection in the FAQ - stay tuned!
sahil
Notable Contributor
8
Deepak Chopra of Sales
Oh cool, sarcasm. I'm familiar with that.
paddy
WR Officer
4
Director of Business Development
thank u so mch what's the user interface for hubspot like
BmajoR
Arsonist
7
Account Executive
I'm not sure, I haven't made it past page 1. I usually just type nubile into the search bar.ย 
BigCheese
Notorious Answer
6
Agency Recruiter
Hi @paddy, welcome to the War Room! I'm sure you'll find the search bar very helpful! Thx :) <3
sahil
Notable Contributor
9
Deepak Chopra of Sales
Oh mocking new members, hilarious.
BigCheese
Notorious Answer
5
Agency Recruiter
Contrary. A sarcastic thread with a sarcastic response to reflect how it would be addressed. I am a big proponent of helping out new members and have provided resources and advice on multiple occasions and have yet to mock or patronize any new members.
sahil
Notable Contributor
2
Deepak Chopra of Sales
My friend, I'd love your help on how we can do a better job to onboard new members. We're clearly failing here - what are your thoughts?
BigCheese
Notorious Answer
2
Agency Recruiter
I think the disconnect comes from the difference in advertising and the actual product as well as the community/etiquette that's already been established. I'm not saying either of these things are positive or negative, but I think those are the two driving factors. The WR is advertised as an ultimate networking channel, filled with the best of the best salespeople, collaborating to become the best versions of themselves possible. However, once you get here, you find that's just a portion of it. This product has more so become a place where salespeople hang out. Sure, most things are business/sales-related, but I think there are a fair amount of members who were expecting something different.ย 

The FAQ explains what is acceptable/unacceptable, etc., and provides some WR tips/threads, however, it doesn't encapsulate the experience. There have been a lot of good threads that people have posted for new members, with my personal favorite below, but regardless, I think a lot of people are put off by the intensity of the established members and community.

https://bravado.co/war-room/posts/how-to-post-engaging-content-and-avoid-shitposting-a-war-room-masterclass-of-sort

I believe new members should know what to expect, what it's like, and how to act/not act so they're not getting shat on by gatekeepers and people who look down upon inexperienced new members.ย I've seen the term "lurkers" tossed around a bit today and I would assume we have "lurkers" because of this. I was a "lurker" for my first month+ before I started engaging because I didn't want to get shat on or look like a buffoon. I imagine multiple others currently feel the same.
paddy
WR Officer
7
Director of Business Development
hahahaha ok thanks man i aoppreciate u
Chep
WR Officer
5
Bitcoin Adoption Specialist
sOmEtImEs I liKe tO UsE GoOgLe DocS To KeEp TrAcK Of My pIpE. Dont wanna break the budget on a crm๐Ÿ‘€
CoorsKing
WR Officer
5
Retired King of the Coors Knights
Blue crayon + napkin.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
4
๐ŸฆŠ
With a red crayon as a backup.
funcoupons
WR Officer
4
๐Ÿ‘‘
Some people in here tell me the yellow crayon is lemon flavoured <3
looper1010
Celebrated Contributor
0
Solutions Specialist
Are you a Marine?
pretengineer
Politicker
2
Head of the crumpets
Excel 2007 followed closely by Google Sheets
FeedTheKids
Politicker
1
Solutions Consultant
Current company uses HubSpot.... Not a huge fan. Low-key, best CRM out there is a company called Pipedrive. Used it at my last company - best CRM I've used.... Ever?ย 

Salesforce is the easy answer - but fuck SF.
funcoupons
WR Officer
7
๐Ÿ‘‘
wat is salesforce??
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
4
โ˜•๏ธ
HubSpot is a fantastic platform, you just have to learn how to use it...otherwise, you lose it.
FeedTheKids
Politicker
3
Solutions Consultant
HubSpot is a marketing platform with CRM tools... As long as you know that going into it, you'll be ok.ย 
Theloanemperor
Opinionated
0
Loan Officer
I love HubSpot. My company pays for jungo by sales force and I donโ€™t even use it. Have my own HubSpot lol
paddy
WR Officer
1
Director of Business Development
looper1010
Celebrated Contributor
1
Solutions Specialist
Try writing it on your hand so you'll never lose it!
FlintIronstag
Notorious Answer
0
Chief Marketing Officer
Hubspot SimpleSalesCRM Salesforce Pipedrive
paddy
WR Officer
7
Director of Business Development
ur in marketing tho
FlintIronstag
Notorious Answer
4
Chief Marketing Officer
Shit, youโ€™re right.
Theloanemperor
Opinionated
0
Loan Officer
hubspot, period. tried all of them.
funcoupons
WR Officer
2
๐Ÿ‘‘
wat is hubstop??
Broncosfan
Politicker
0
Account Manager
Just leave a note on their windshields.
CCP
Opinionated
0
VP, Business Development
Definitely Excel. Hands down.ย 
bellaccione
Valued Contributor
0
Growth Consultant
Sales stuffs is like life stuffs, i just use markdown (a physical notepad and a Bic pen) and draw little triangle diagrams to mark progress of deals through my 'funnel'
thesecretsauce
Politicker
0
Business Development
HUBSPOTTTT
thegrinch
Politicker
0
SDR
The best CRM is the CRM you forgot about
H.A
Tycoon
0
Customer Success
Vitally + Salesforcece
Mr.Pickles
Arsonist
0
Sr. Customer Success Manager
Here - https://bravado.co/war-room/posts/best-crm-megapoll; some content that might shine a light based on the community's perception. I did this poll a while ago and we ended up implementing SalesForce. Not very friendly at first sight, but powerful when integrated with a dialer, we currently use Outreach.ย 


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Members only

BEST SALES CRM?

Question
87
BEST SALES CRM?
11% APOLLO.IO
21% OUTREACH
5% FRONTSPIN
63% OTHER
108 people voted
35
Members only

Best CRM - ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ๐ŸŒŸ (MEGAPOLL)

Discussion
83
Options
175 people voted
41
Members only

"Best CRM???"

Discussion
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