Kinonez

War Room Enthusiast

Do you like or love your job?

I was browsing LinkedIn (I know right, I must be crazy now that we have Bravado) and saw a video Simon Sinek posted about this topic. Where a barista loved one job but hated the other, same job, different hotel.

This got me thinking do I love or like my job?

What’s the difference? Like is rational, you like the people you work with, the challenge and even the amount you are paid. Love is emotional. You love your family, your pets and spouse.

If you love your job what makes you have that emotional connection? If you like it, what’s missing? What environment will help you work at your best?

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Justatitle

Big Shot

Account Executive

I don't believe anyone is like "Fucking sick I get to make cold calls get rejected 80% of the time and have a number to chase." With that acknowledge the people you work with the boss you report to can make all the difference in the world. I don't like or love to work, If I won the lotto I'd retire and never think about work again. I work as a means to an end.

CaneWolf

Politicker

Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract

Yep, exactly. I'm..fine with it. I prefer this to what else I see out there. But I'm not gonna pretend that SOWs is where I get my jollies.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Not everyone is rep, but I get your point, I do several calls a day, get yelled at and slammed on the phone. I still love my job, for me it's all about the statistics and numbers, never knowing when someone will pick up and get that sale! The rush of the game fills me with euphoria, what can I do to improve my numbers? That question keeps me up at night with a smile.

CaneWolf

Politicker

Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract

I love your attitude and take and envy your euphoria.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

I can teach you all about it for $2.99 a month! In all seriousness, it's all about how you can go from liking your role into loving it, sometimes all you need it's a different perspective.

Justatitle

Big Shot

Account Executive

Yes, the wins are why we do this. And the rush you get is awesome. Regardless it’s still work, if you had enough money to satisfy all financial needs for the rest of your life would you still work @Kinonez

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

I would, if I could, I would build an empire! something generations from now can see and know that I was part of it, like Coca-Cola or other giants. I get bored of doing nothing, I would definitely work less hours and take more vacations, but I see myself working until 45.

markedclosedwon

Big Shot

Account Executive

@Kinonez Are you doing FIRE?

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

I'm doing whatever I need to do in order to succeed!

Annonny

Big Shot

Account Executive

FACTS!!!! I laugh sometimes hearing the AE's say they went out in the field and pulled 30 cards, and got no new opportunities and it was such a rough day..like I made 130 calls and everyone said no...doesn't mean I get to slack tomorrow or take a day to chill..

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

You gotta keep screaming until they hear you!

Craggus

Opinionated

Key Account Manager

Love the honesty in this. So many people say they would be totally unchanged if they won the lotto - when I think deep down we all know exactly what we would be like!

Justatitle

Big Shot

Account Executive

I’d probably get bored and it’s always been a dream of mine to open a steakhouse so I’d probably do that eventually, I’d certainly take 2-3 years completely off from any work though.

SaaSguy

Tycoon

Account Executive

In the same boat.. work is bearable, would retire in a heartbeat if I could

TheColdestColdCall

Executive

Enterprise Account Executive

I agree - I like my job and I LOVE what it affords me in life and in my career.

dcarb

Good Citizen

Account Manager

@Justatitle spot on!

AlphaCharlie

Arsonist

Account executive

I love my job, if not I wouldn't stay here. What makes me love it? The culture, the friendships, the freedom of speech. It's a mix all and the cute coffee table next to my desk. Yes, I asked it to be moved when I got to an AE spot. They did not take it as a joke, I never complained.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Freedom of speach is trully valuable especially if the listen to you. Some companies allow you to say anything but don't care for actual solutions. Also the coffee table xD That got me!

AlphaCharlie

Arsonist

Account executive

Haha, They listen if the argument is strong enough, which I think it's a perfect balance. The coffee table was the one exception.

JC10X

Politicker

Senior Sales Manager

Hey that's awesome! Enjoy it fr! I can relate to that, although it went away so rn I'm in the no love side :(

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

What changed? What made you fall out of love? What would it take for you to fall back in?

JC10X

Politicker

Senior Sales Manager

The lack of empathy and communication.

Santipodero

Politicker

Sanix

what happened to you friend?

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Is there something you can do it enforce empathy and better communication?

Santipodero

Politicker

Sanix

there's nothing compared to loving what you do

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Yeah, it makes going to work, not feel like a job!

AlphaCharlie

Arsonist

Account executive

Yeah, it's important to love what you do or stick to something else!

sebitas

Opinionated

administrador

before you want to stay all day in the company

cristo

Opinionated

tecnologo

you couldn't have said it better

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Words of a true champ!

Lenca

Politicker

BDR

I like my job, I'm still new, still learning, nothing has me attached to it just yet. I think time, experience and good managers would make me love it. People that care about you and not just your metrics, people that make you feel as a person, and not just a number.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Keep it up, do your best, you'll fall in love in no time if it's the right place for you!

LanceDollarz

Opinionated

CEO

A great manager makes all the difference in the world. When I really started taking off as a sales rep it was because I had a manager who believed in me and pushed me to be better everyday. I learned more than just sales. A great leader leads by example and brings out the best in his sales team. I learned to stop making excuses, personal accountability, self discipline, and more. If I had not had the manager I had at that time I may not be where I am today.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Oh yeah, a good manager is a great leader, someone who wants to see you grow and give you all the tools you need for your success!

Mr.Pickles

Arsonist

Sr. Customer Success Manager

I love it - developing ppl is my thing. sometimes I get carried away for the love itself getting to involved and then you realize Saturday 5 pm you still talking to peers and planning for next week

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

That's awesome! Never lose that, it's important to give the extra mile, just don’t overdo it

Mr.Pickles

Arsonist

Sr. Customer Success Manager

ofc - extra smile for my SDRs. Not for the company. When ppl say: we are a family here - HELL NO. Families are toxic af.

bamageorge

Celebrated Contributor

International Sales Director

This is a really good question. I have two jobs, my main source of income which is cool and I love it and a side gig that I don't necessarily love (neither hate) but allows me to save some money for future projects.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

I love this! Love your main income but don't marry it. Always keep some side Hussles in your pocket! Especially if it's passive income!

bamageorge

Celebrated Contributor

International Sales Director

Hell yeah! Passive income is the best... make money while you sleep, can't get any better than that.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Hahahaha the exit we all need is when your passive income covers your general expenses! That's when you retire!

funcoupons

WR Officer

👑

I like my job and company about as much as I could ever like working. ;)

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

That's great! I'm guessing kicking the interns doesn’t feel like a job more than a hobby right? In a seriousness, what makes you so passionate about your job?

funcoupons

WR Officer

👑

Kicking interns is my passion.

I just really appreciate my company and the people I work with. Yes, it's work which isn't always fun but they do go out of their way to create a positive environment with good people in it. I don't absolutely love all my co workers (who does?) but everyone is respectful to each other and sketchy behavior like sabotaging other reps/stealing leads is not tolerated at all.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Besides kicking interns and locking then in a closet, there is no perfect job, that's a fact we all have to live with. It's then the pros out way the cons and the environment is healthy when you feel happy and comfortable!

Santipodero

Politicker

Sanix

Good friend, as long as you are happy in your work there is no one to stop you

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

1,000% Especially since your happiness depends on your mindset and perspective, no one can take that from you!

sebitas

Opinionated

administrador

100% real as long as you love what you do there is no one to stop you well said

sebitas

Opinionated

administrador

you couldn't have said it in a better way bro

cristo

Opinionated

tecnologo

as long as they are happy there is no one to stop them

cristo

Opinionated

tecnologo

you're right

BmajoR

Arsonist

Account Executive

I love my job because it gives me lots of money and will allow me to afford to live wherever I choose to.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Money is always something to consider for sure.

BmajoR

Arsonist

Account Executive

I also love my product and my leaders. I've landed one of those unicorn opportunities that is the catalyst to positive life changing events.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

That's awesome! make that unicorn grow!

alexpe2294

Catalyst

Sales Account Manager

I like my job but I love my company! In order to love my job, I'm missing more challenging activities and more responsibilities. Something that would require more critical thinking and decision making instead of being on autopilot for the whole day.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

It's great that you are aware of this. Have you communicated this to a manager? They love to hear this!

Bittersweet0326

Politicker

Digital Business Associate

I would say I'm in a pretty serious relationship with my job, but I can't say love yet. It's not even because of anything to do with the job itself. The job is fine, what I really enjoy about it is the freedom that it offers to spend time with family. If you don't enjoy your job AND it doesn't give you any 'perks' to be happy outside of it, you are just burning at both ends.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

What would make you fall in love or out of love?

Bittersweet0326

Politicker

Digital Business Associate

Hmmmm. I suppose loving the job along with loving the perks. I like the job, but is it what I dream about? Nah

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

What do you dream about? Is that job out there? What perks would make the difference?

Bittersweet0326

Politicker

Digital Business Associate

Solid questions. Something in the sports world. I think it’s one of those things I wouldn’t know until I’m doing it. The biggest perk I’m a fan of today is being able to shut work mode off when I need/want to.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

What's keeping you outside of the sport world?

Bittersweet0326

Politicker

Digital Business Associate

Life's a balance right. You figure out the right balance to take care of your family, enjoy as many moments as you can, and not hate everything about your job. I'm in a good spot right now with all things considered. If I decided to make that move it would be starting from nearly square one. Added stress, more time away from family (more than likely), and less of those perks.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

It is all about balance, if you like your job and it gives you more perks like more time with your loved ones, I understand your decision, hell I respect it. Only a true bests could come up with that perspective in life!

SaaSam

Politicker

Account Executive

Culture almost has everything to do with it, at least for me. I used to work on an oil rig, back breaking, hard as fuck work but I absolutely loved it because we had something of a brotherhood with all the guys on my rig

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

That's awesome! I have a farm with my dad, it's no way near as back breaking as an oil rig, but we have nice brotherhood with our employees. I can relate to that 100%

SaaSam

Politicker

Account Executive

Grew up on a ranch in Wyoming. Employees on a ranch almost always become long lasting parts of the family. My grandfather gave a whole beef as a gift every year to all of the full timers, most of them lived on the ranch with their families

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

That sounds like a great childhood!

SaaSam

Politicker

Account Executive

I loved it. Still like to get in as many brandings as possible come branding season, then back to the office after getting the shit kicked outta you by a few cows

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Hahaha love it! It's rare to find a salesperson with an agriculture background like me!!

SaaSam

Politicker

Account Executive

Really true, farmers and ranchers aren't typically looking to get into the corporate world. I kind of fell into it by mistake actually. Was a Criminal investigator before this

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

For real?? There has to be more to that story!!

SaaSam

Politicker

Account Executive

My pops is a criminal defense attorney and when I got old enough he started having me help out with interviewing witnesses and going through evidence and the works. Eventually other attorneys in town started reaching out so my older brother and I started a side gig of doing it on a case by case basis. Lots of crazy stories, probably set me up pretty good for sales when I look back on it.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

That’s a really cool background, from farm, to fighting crime to sales! You are like our own WR Daredevil hahaha.

SaaSam

Politicker

Account Executive

Haha well I wasn't exactly fighting it. I worked for the defense

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

so, you're saying you are an evil master mind who uses sales as a means to an end to fund your evil projects? Sounds like the average salesman hahaha

Santipodero

Politicker

Sanix

I love my job, the pay is very good and I have plenty of time to do what I want

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

That's awesome!! just keep the fire burning!

sebitas

Opinionated

administrador

good, never stop

cristo

Opinionated

tecnologo

I wish I could say the same never leave it

Adored

Executive

Sales Director

My job is like an extremely abusive relationship with a gaslighting motherfucker that you just can't get out of. I get treated like shit most of the time but am told just enough, that I'm the future of the company.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

What makes you stay? A promotion in the horizon? If so for how long? What would have to change in order to love your current role?

Adored

Executive

Sales Director

A few things: 1) Timing, I’ve been at the company less than two years and it’s only been 9 months since my promotion, ideally want to clock up 12 months in this role so I have it locked in on my CV 2) Company’s growth is great, about to close some significant investment and there are some really nice logos being landed atm 3) Pipeline is good 4) I am hopefully about to get a raise Whether I stay much beyond Christmas really depends on how this next quarter goes.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

I see, it's important to take everything into account! always think things through before making any decision, if so you'll be fine!! hope you keep growing and making dem money!

Adored

Executive

Sales Director

Thanks!

JC10X

Politicker

Senior Sales Manager

Man, I think I fell out of love with my job so I guess I just like it now. I used to love the culture, the energy of the people - it was friking addictive. Now it's like the energy gets sucked out of you, noone seems to be "in love" anymore.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Is there anything in your power that could revert this change?

Thesamiam13x

Celebrated Contributor

Sales

My job is alright, i prefer to live freely lol.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Does your job allow you to live freely?

Thesamiam13x

Celebrated Contributor

Sales

Nope, gotta drive to the office every day and eyes are always on us.

Cuervo1994

Good Citizen

Sales Development rep

I love my job!! Sales has taught me how human psychology is very important. Now, I want to go back to school and study psychology.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

What's keeping you? I also want to do this, saving for college as we speak!

Cuervo1994

Good Citizen

Sales Development rep

I'm saving money as we speak as well, hopefully next year I can pay my tuition

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

That's awesome!! that's my plan as well!! good luck Cuervo!!

BasstheBear

Opinionated

Business Development Representative

I love my company but I don’t love my job. Being an XDR for a couple years has run me into the ground.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

I feel you, the job does take a toll on you, you just have to keep screaming until they hear you.

Wanna.Be.Rick.Spielman

Valued Contributor

Account Executive

I love the company and the people I work with, but as for my actual sales role... ehhhh idk there are worse things but it is not my true calling I think.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

What would be your true calling?

Wanna.Be.Rick.Spielman

Valued Contributor

Account Executive

Probably being a teacher, hbu?

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

To be honest I think it's sales, just spent a minute or two thinking about my idea job and they were all sales related!

PhlipOut

Politicker

Account Executive

I like it, I don't love it. It's a job. A mostly good one. not forever or even close

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

What would need to change for you to love it?

HappyGilmore

Politicker

Account Executive

I definitely like my job, a big part of it is my coworkers that I interact with on a daily basis. I think an area that prevents me from loving it fully are just the growing pains of my company itself/sales org that get in the way.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

A good culture and great team is crucial to the work environment! Are these pain present in all companies? What would need to change for you to love your job?

ragnarlothbrok

Politicker

Key account manager

Like my job dislike my employer, does that count ?

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

It does, what makes you dislike the employer? Would the same job with a diffrent employer make sense?

Sunbunny31

Politicker

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

Wasn't loving my job until I changed companies and fell back in love with sales. I'm with a company that has a leading solution, good support, and values me and my experience. I came from a very large tech company where I was not valued and was underutilized. I've been reminded how much I enjoy talking to people and chasing after deals during the end-to-end sales cycle. Don't love what you do? Maybe consider making a change. For me, it wasn't the job, it was where I was working.

edit for clarity

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

That's great, there is nothing better that to feel appreciated and valued! glad switching companies worked for you!

Sunbunny31

Politicker

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

You have no idea! I went from having the best year in sales (loved the team, the territory, the solution, all of it) to having three years of WTF before I finally made the leap. I'm glad I did, but at that point, I was willing to take a huge risk because I literally could not afford to stay where I was.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Sometimes we need to get to extremes to make some changes, as humans a change scares us, it's always a risk to leave our comfort zones, but on occasions it's highly rewarding! Glad your risk paid off!

Beasthouse

Opinionated

Corporate trainer

i liked sales but i LOVE training I'm just lucky the pay matches my lifestyle well that and I knew how to negotiate for a batna

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

I also love training, working hard to have a team under me!

mollybloomstanaccount

Politicker

AE (Account Executive)

Liking your job = finding a certain level of fulfillment or satisfaction in the role itself. Loving your job = that with the added bonus of connecting with the people you work with and actually looking forward to interacting with them everyday.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

I agree with this. Do you love or like your job?

mollybloomstanaccount

Politicker

AE (Account Executive)

Somewhere in the middle for now haha, what about you?

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

I'm one of the lucky ones, I love my job! I actually have fun!

cw95

Politicker

Sales Development Lead

I'm the happy medium. One week it's good, one week it's shit. Neither love nor like but I guess the in-between of accepted. Sometimes.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

As long as you have more good times than bad times you are good in my book!

Sky

Good Citizen

Corporate Sales Engineer

Like it so far. Hopefully soon I will start loving it. There are some things that need to happen before I start loving it.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Like what? What will make you love it?

Calico

Celebrated Contributor

Corporate Trainer

Most people see a job as a means to an end: getting to retire with decent savings to hold you over comfortably. However, you're usually stuck working for 45+ years of your life so you might as well make sure you choose something you enjoy doing and you do well.

I originally studied education knowing that it wouldn't get me the best-paying job ever, but being a teacher (in any of its forms, like sales trainer) is rewarding enough to stick with for years.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

I agree you need to love what you do to get the most of it, if you trully love it, you'll be better at it and wake up without wishing it was saturday!

Stax

Opinionated

AE - Major Accounts

I'm in my first year here, but I really like my job. There are frustrations, sure, but my manager is supportive and I'm learning every day. The compensation is on point and thus far my goals haven't been unreasonable.

This could all change at some point in the future, but unless the goals change drastically or my boss leaves I think I'll be sticking around a while.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Looks like you hit jackpot! enjoy it, stick to it, grow within it!

Stax

Opinionated

AE - Major Accounts

Certainly feeling lucky right now. Hoping it continues into next year.

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Just keep kicking it and good things will come!

MrNiche

Valued Contributor

Senior Account Executive

I love being in a job long enough to know what it takes to be successful. So much of what I love is the ability to make as much money as I'm willing to work for and knowing how much work needs to go into that.

I love having the ability to control my income at a young age. I work at a company that has startup pains, and yeah cold calling fuckin blows. But few other roles enable people to run their own life like sales does.

Also a huge fan of having real data points. My success is empirical. All of my leaders know how much I've closed and how hard I worked to get there, so there's no grey area for determining good, consistent reps vs. shitty ones who just got lucky. Gives a sense of security in the role - just hit your number and you'll always be good!

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

For sure, in sales you can tell who puts the extra mile, those that do are the only ones that reach the top of the food chain!

MrNiche

Valued Contributor

Senior Account Executive

Exactly! New hires always ask me who I recommend meeting with... like look at the top of the leaderboard, there's your answer!

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

Always stick to who ever is driving results, that’s the college who can help you the most!

elevateNcelebrate

Fire Starter

Account Executive

This is my first job since graduating college and I like it - offers a great work/life balance (only really work 25-30 hours/week), great people and immediate team, and sell a great service to good clients. I would love it if they would increase my base pay in relation to my performance over the past two years. People who join with 2+ years experience start at 90k base while I'm at 50k base. I'm 240% over quota and will make close to 70k, but I know people who are on pace to be 1000% over quota, are only breaking 90k. Do you have to switch companies to get a reasonable (70k+) base pay?

Kinonez

Celebrated Contributor

War Room Enthusiast

I don't get anywhere near 70k, I'm not based on the US, but here you need less money to have a good life with all the perks, have great views and even own a small farm. Success is not determined by the amount you cash in but with much you enjoy your day to day routine. I'm sure there are many 70k+ out there, you just have to keep looking until you land it!

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