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Everyone has a price. What's yours?

A coworker of mine, consistent rep and a great teammate, abruptly left EOD yesterday for a new company with no notice, just said "peace out!", and it got me thinking.


We all have our price, we're salespeople. It's a given that f we can sell, we can be sold -- for the right compensation of course.


So I ask you this: What would it take to leave your current job for those of you that love where you're at?


And to make it even juicier, this is for everyone in here, what would it take for you to work at a company you dislike/shit on? It could be a direct competitor, former workplace, Gong, you name it.


What is YOUR price?

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🚀 Career Goals
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CoorsKing
WR Officer
+11
King of the Coors Knights
3 Coors Lights, a Crunchwrap, and 1:1 401K matching. I can sell shit anywhere.

To get me to work at Gong? You would need the fucking infinity gauntlet.
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Ahem.
ZeroGrit
Good Citizen
VP of Hoping My Emails Find You Well
I was thinking of applying to Gong... what am I missing? lol Genuinely curious why it would be a bad idea or at least why you have a strong feeling about it
CoorsKing
WR Officer
+11
King of the Coors Knights
Gongs sales reps are about as universally hated as getting a rock in your shoe while simultaneously stepping knee deep into a pile of buffalo shit. 

I refuse to become part of that culture. I would rather work for Oracle. 
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paddy
WR Officer
+10
Account Executive
A 30% increase in my base, unfettered access to the company predator drone, and a signing bonus that includes a case of Kahlua. I'm a man of simple taste.
GrizzleMcThornBody
Politicker
+7
EVP - RevOps
UN-FET-TER-ED access
paddy
WR Officer
+10
Account Executive
Damn right.
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WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Simple, exquisite, and direct. I admire you, Paddy.
paddy
WR Officer
+10
Account Executive
Back atcha slugger
poweredbycaffeine
WR Officer
+9
Bean Juice Drinker | Sales Savant
I'd go to Gong for this:

1) 50% raise and fully vested equity upon signing
2) At least two layers of reporting beneath me...I want more lines connected to me than Tony Montana ever had.
3) WFH status without any bullshit recinding
4) The ability to stop them from pod-posting and ruining LinkedIn.
5) I can pick one rep to fire based on their past abuse of #4
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
I'd follow you into battle anywhere, PBC
poweredbycaffeine
WR Officer
+9
Bean Juice Drinker | Sales Savant
We ride at dawn!
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OpalTiddyChurger
Arsonist
+9
Funbags Enthusiast
I need about tree fiddy 
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
DAMNIT LOCH NESS MONSTER
InQ5WeTrust
Arsonist
+8
Sales Savages, what is our profession? Trauma!
A computer that isn't a lenovo thinkpad, coors fridge and the ability to tell annoying prospects to yeet themselves into the sea. 

A 50k bump wouldn't go amiss. 

For Gong though? I want the bulldog.
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
I can offer you an original, mint condition, 1984 Apple desktop
A Coors branded mini-fridge
And no call recording so you can say what you please.


Bulldog is a beautiful choice
InQ5WeTrust
Arsonist
+8
Sales Savages, what is our profession? Trauma!
Send me over the contract - I'll get the quill and blood readyl. 
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UrAssIsSaaS
Politicker
+7
SaaS Eater
50% more than I make right now makes it worth it for me. Im not sure I can make the move somewhere that I hate unless its like 2-3x what I currently make. 

Ill stash checks for a few years and then move on but that paycheck has to be pretty fat to make the self loathing worth it.
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
We're in sales, it's ALL self-loathing
UrAssIsSaaS
Politicker
+7
SaaS Eater
Ya good point, but if im REALLY going to hate myself for what I do, not just kinda hate myself you gotta pay me really handsomely.
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GrizzleMcThornBody
Politicker
+7
EVP - RevOps
Taylor Swift
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Pre or post-RED album
GrizzleMcThornBody
Politicker
+7
EVP - RevOps
pre-whenever the demon jumped from miley cyrus to her
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DungeonsNDemos
Politicker
+7
AE of B2B
Like as your intern? or...?
GrizzleMcThornBody
Politicker
+7
EVP - RevOps
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Justatitle
Politicker
+8
Senior AE
50k increase in OTE, with people actually hitting it. 
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
That's it? Interesting

Chep
WR Officer
+10
Business Development Team Lead
Same base but I want only inbound leads and my commission in crypto. 
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Volatile and aggressive, I'm a fan
ragnarlothbrok
Politicker
+6
Key account manager
This
DungeonsNDemos
Politicker
+7
AE of B2B
Lol, your commission is changing by the second!
Chep
WR Officer
+10
Business Development Team Lead
Talk about a perfect way to dollar cost average in
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RealPatrickBateman
Politicker
+7
Amateur Butcher
For Gong though.... WFH permanently, if I NEED to come into the office it will be by helicopter ONLY, and on the company dime of course. A 600% increase in salary so I make no more than $1 less than the CEO. Will need a board seat at Pfizer and college funds set up for both my children and grandchildren. And while we're at it, would love a Chicken Parm sandwich. Thats all 🤷🏻‍♂️
UrAssIsSaaS
Politicker
+7
SaaS Eater
The chicken parm sando is what puts this offer over the edge for me. 
RealPatrickBateman
Politicker
+7
Amateur Butcher
What... too far? 

I knew I should have asked for a Tuna sando.... FAHK
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CuriousFox
WR Officer
+11
Senior Account Executive
Remote work. High base. And don't try to come at me with bullshit.
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
You deserve double the base you savage
CuriousFox
WR Officer
+11
Senior Account Executive
I'm gonna get it too 🦊
SADNES5
Politicker
+6
Hittin' Dingers
30% more than I am making now... no vesting for shares. I am gone, and doing the same thing. EOD friday before a longweekend... "I quit"

WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
I like.
SaaSam
Politicker
+6
Account Executive
Man, it's hard to say since it would depend on the situation. I guess the reverse would be the case for me. To stay at my current company they would have to offer me a base of 200k and 2 of my own SDRs, no more of this round robin shit where 90% of what gets sent to me only qualifies as a pain in the ass.
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
INteresting. You did mention trying to leave though lol
SaaSam
Politicker
+6
Account Executive
Right, I am trying to leave. I'm saying what it would take for me to stay at this shit show
ZeroGrit
Good Citizen
VP of Hoping My Emails Find You Well
LOL Do we work together?
SaaSam
Politicker
+6
Account Executive
I dunno, I feel like there are so many shitty companies out there that this would apply to a lot of folks.
bamageorge
Celebrated Contributor
+9
International Sales Director
I'm here for the comments lol 
CloudyWithAChanceOfQuota
Politicker
+4
Inside Account Representative
ayo bama alum here. love the username. roll tide 
bamageorge
Celebrated Contributor
+9
International Sales Director
ROLL TIDE ROLL! 
Incognito
WR Officer
+11
Master of Disaster
From experience - I was on track to go to Yale Law or get my MBA at Columbia and my main client said, "I don't like change. I want you to stay where you are, doing exactly what you're doing now. What will it take?"

I tripled my salary (which I got to call in my own payroll), got fully paid for medical benefits (like, no copays or premiums), unlimited expense reimbursement, two new employees, and three new horses. 

Whenever he was an asshole, I'd just look at my bank account and smile. 
Incognito
WR Officer
+11
Master of Disaster
side note - another CEO tried to poach me from that job and offered me $100K more AND A PRIVATE JET TO FLY MY FOUR CATS TO GERMANY. 

At that point in my life, it wasn't enough and I refused the offer. 
TheNegotiator
Politicker
+7
VP of Sales
Are you fucking with us, or just trying to make us all look/feel bad?
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Boutdamtime
Opinionated
+4
Client Executive
What job was your dad trying to keep you from leaving??
Incognito
WR Officer
+11
Master of Disaster
I never did call him Daddy, but it would have been much more fun if I did. 

FWIW I left home at 18. 
SADNES5
Politicker
+6
Hittin' Dingers
Does your employer need to give you notice if you're being fired? If so, you owe them the same courtesy.

I love this guy. Fuck em, scorched earth approach. I want to shake their hand. 
bu
butwhy
Praised Answer
+1
Solutions Engineer
A bottle of dry Chenin Blanc and the promise I never have to do bullshit busy work for the sake of pipeline fire drills ever fucking again. 
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Hmmmm.. This seems too low. Raise your standards damnit,
bu
butwhy
Praised Answer
+1
Solutions Engineer
Fiiiinnneee - make it Möet and the promise I never have to do bullshit busy work for the sake of fire drills ever ever ever fucking again. 
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TheOverTaker
Politicker
+6
Account Executive
more money more power less problems and you have me
WilliamH
Fire Starter
+2
Sales Leader
Mo power, mo problems. It's all about the Benjamins. 
TheNegotiator
Politicker
+7
VP of Sales
I just got a 50k bump on base, an extra week of vacation and 75% OTE bump. . Plus they hooked me up with top notch hardware and are paying for relocation cross country. I think I could’ve gotten even more but I vibed with the CEO. . So that WAS my price.
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
....I am in awe
TheNegotiator
Politicker
+7
VP of Sales
It was definitely a healthy increase. Worth switching companies for. The $ and %s are accurate but it seems higher than it should be because I was underpaid in my previous role. . I’m now probably aligned with (maybe on the higher end) of what I “should be making” based on market/title/experience/what I bring to the table.
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DungeonsNDemos
Politicker
+7
AE of B2B
So I take your name was bestowed upon you, not self-appointed.
TheNegotiator
Politicker
+7
VP of Sales
Haha, self-appointed, but accurate.  I don't believe in BSing myself or others- nothing to be gained by lying to yourself.  

I think we're all given gifts in life, there are things we're all naturally good at VS things need to learn and improve at.  Sales as a whole has like 6-7 subcategory skillsets.

When I started in sales, as an example I was trash at discovery/fact-finding.  I've worked very hard and very long to improve, and now I'm good at that shit.  But negotiation was something I had out of the gate.
AutoSmiler
Arsonist
+7
SDR
For a direct competitor (mainly bc I fucking hate our main competitor), I would need at least a double in base salary. The sales org over there is very trashy, and also swinging below the belt. While they do win deals, they don't have the customer base that we have when it comes to the F500. So I can understand all the low blows, but to go work for that team I'd need at least a double in salary. 
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Double salary and a bump in commish percentage for sure
AutoSmiler
Arsonist
+7
SDR
Yup, the commission bump is a given with the salary increase...at least from my point of view lol
RealPatrickBateman
Politicker
+7
Amateur Butcher
To quote Bretten James.... "MORE"
NoSuperhero
Politicker
+7
BDR
Right now??
$45k/yr

Later it'll be much higher, but right now, right now, I'll jump ship for anything remotely close!
CoorsKing
WR Officer
+11
King of the Coors Knights
At least get a beer out of it or something lol. You could probably get $45k right now with your eyes closed, let’s beef these goal papaya up! 
NoSuperhero
Politicker
+7
BDR
No, I live in Colombia, it's harder than it seems.
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
oh my
UrAssIsSaaS
Politicker
+7
SaaS Eater
Mi amigo value yourself a little more than that. You can make 45k in a year working at McDonalds. 
NoSuperhero
Politicker
+7
BDR
Trust me I am. I deserve that type of money and I would make wonders with something like it, oyu have no idea hahahah
DungeonsNDemos
Politicker
+7
AE of B2B
Well, I think you have a SOLID chance for that with this market. Go get that bread
TechSalesQueen
Catalyst
+5
Sr. Enterprise Account Executive
What type of sales are you in vs where you want to be for a 45k base? Some of us more tenured sales folks may be able to confirm if that’s a valid amount or if you should be potential asking for more! Go get em either way and stand up for what you need to be successful financially both on and off the clock for the work you’re being asked to commit to giving in exchange!
NoSuperhero
Politicker
+7
BDR
yaaaaaassss!!!
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Gyro25
Politicker
+6
BDR - Enterprise and Partnerships
Our direct competitor is beating us on almost every front. We consistently lose to them for a number of reasons. If I got an offer with them with equity, a pay bump, similar management style, I'd be sold. They're killing the game rn and we're playing catch up and taking their scraps. It's not that we're doing bad, it's just they are on another level altogether. 
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Yeah fair point on that lol
dr
draculina
Fire Starter
+2
process development specialist
I’m gonna answer it for former workplace: min 50% base salary increase, managerial title and perks, including but not limited to car benefits. I loved working for my manager there, but HR policies are shit, so if i can get financially secure i’m saying yes. 
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Interesting thought process there
dr
draculina
Fire Starter
+2
process development specialist
When i was there and about to be promoted, I got an offer from a competitor to twice of my unpromoted salary, and 150% of my promoted salary. The management could not make any efforts, bc i was an old employee and global hr would kill it before they could make an offer to me.

shortly after I left, i saw people who were my junior but in other departments, getting two title jumps, and getting promotions two years in a row. Something HR states they don’t allow. 

It was something even my own management was unhappy with; so if i’m going back, i have to get everything i can because once i’m back; i have no negotiation power. 
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sellingsellssold
Politicker
+7
SDR
60k or hirer for base salary plus commission earrings 
Sunbunny31
Opinionated
+3
Sales Executive
What got me here from my last employer I formerly loved was a higher base and overall 40% OTE, plus someone I really respected giving me that call when I was already wondering about 2021.   Bonus:  left large goliath that simply didn't care for small company with superior technology, where I can personally make a material difference.   Benefits are not quite as awesome, but ... I'm remote anyway, so who cares about on-prem gyms?  What would it take to move me from here?   Another respected former manager I enjoyed working with giving me that call and a big bump.    

edit:  because commas are a thing.  A useful thing.
LordBusiness
Politicker
+8
Chief Revenue Officer
You reach a point in your career when it becomes more than just comp. Its about being relentlessly loyal to the people who’ve made the sacrifices that sellers have to make to grow. My company has grown from $5 m to $130 m in 5 years, so I get poaching attempts pretty often, but right now, I don’t have a price.
highlyinadvisable
Opinionated
+3
SaLeS dEvELoPmEnT rEpReSeNtAtiVe
Is it ok to feel this way about an SDR role? 

My boss and VP have spent a ton of time mentoring me and training me, and I've been watching the company grow from a sales team of 10 to a sales team of 30 over the last 9 months. I also came from an incredibly toxic work environment in retail and a very rough on-the-road channel job. It's night and day.

I get hit up by recruiters for AE roles (not particularly good ones) and other SDR roles. I'm really hesitant to leave (or even explore) other options because I feel I can really trust the crew I work with.
Coffeesforclosers
Notable Contributor
+11
Director Sales and Market Development
Immediately vested options  since every company I go to sells in a year or 2 when I have equity unvested and get a crisp fucking high five every time. Bejng actually rich vs paper rich would be nice. 
TechGenie
Fire Starter
+2
C.E.O
1% of the company's stock, 2X salary, 10 BTC as signing bonus. And for drinking the dream a Dalmore King Alexander
Arizona
BDE
I don't have a price I have a minimum. If you really live sales you can make killer money most places. But as a fiscally responsible adult I like a higher base to cover savings and expenses and general weekend activities, and let commissions power travel and investments. 
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