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Fired after pointing out we're breaking the law

A "Text Message" step is repeated 3 times in our C-suite outbound cadence... Not good... I mentioned to my boss that the company has been breaking federal laws for the past 6 months, and then they fire me the next day "for being [4 minutes] late" to a meeting... 

What to do?

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LordBusiness
Politicker
32
Chief Revenue Officer
Retaliation is difficult to prove. The market is hot, go find another gig snd know that karma always catches up to ass hat companies (and people)
whathaveyousoldtomorrow
Opinionated
2
sales
THIS. 
hh456
Celebrated Contributor
13
sales
They’ll probably never get in trouble. Just walk away and leave them a bad review that’s like 2-3 stars so they can’t sue you and you can help deter good employees away from accepting offers there.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
12
🦊
Pookie! Burn the mother fucker down! 🔥
jefe
Arsonist
1
🍁
A+++ for that reference!
FamilyTruckster
Politicker
7
Exec Director, Major Accounts
Yikes. Sounds like retaliation, but I’d seek council. Sales guy not a lawyer. 
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
2
☕️
Same thing, depending on the company size 😎
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
7
☕️
If you have documented proof that they are A) Breaking the law and B) Knew and did nothing about it...then here is what I'd do:

1) Ask for a PHAT check to leave quietly. Have to word this with a sly slant to it.
2) If they push you out without anything then go to the proper authorities. Karma is a bitch, and she's out for blood.
UrAssIsSaaS
Arsonist
4
SaaS Eater
I think you should riot
OraclesBitterRedPill
Executive
1
Application Sales Manager, Enterprise Accounts
RIOT!
SADNES5
Politicker
4
down voters are marketing spies
Always keep quiet until you've got stacks of evidence. 
Do.it.for.the.checks
Politicker
1
Account Executive
100%
jefe
Arsonist
1
🍁
Great point
Jbeans
Opinionated
4
Director of Sales
Ask yourself if it’s worth the hassle. And the stress. And the mental energy wasted going to them vs focusing on a new role. Personally, I would walk and leave the bad review in this case. Suing them only if I had exhibits A through Z, because it will drain you in so many ways. Much more than them . It sucks 100%. Super sorry this happened to you .
InQ5WeTrust
Arsonist
3
No marketing, mayo isn't an MQL
As noted by others retaliation is very hard to prove unless you can find something in writing. 

Push for a fatty of a severance and get out there on the market. 

You got this. 
RealPatrickBateman
Politicker
2
🔪Amateur Butcher🔪
Shoot me the address, we'll swing by after the riot at LinkedIn HQ 😎
desperado
Politicker
1
Head of Sales
Ah, ‘at will’ employment eh?
jefe
Arsonist
0
🍁
I don't understand how that's legal - so many states are messed up.

There's still retaliation and whistleblower type protection laws (though this wouldn't count as the latter, I don't think)
DungeonsNDemos
Big Shot
1
Rolling 20's all day
Just go work somewhere better. Sounds like a shitty company to work for if they fired you for something like that. Best of luck
sugardaddy
Politicker
1
🍬
Jesus Christ! As many suggest. Riot that fucking place!
CuriousFox
WR Officer
0
🦊
Good call 😎
goose
Politicker
1
Sales Executive
I'm not up to speed on federal laws regarding text messages but it sounds like you need to focus on getting a new job.  If you documented your whistle blowing and have a strong employment track record then a conversation with an employment attorney might be a good idea.  Otherwise, move on.
Do.it.for.the.checks
Politicker
1
Account Executive
Lawyer up boy. 

But this will be a tough win. Talk to an attorney but go find yourself a new gig. Market is hot
jefe
Arsonist
1
🍁
Push for severance in lieu of a lawsuit, though you may want to pay a lawyer to draft a letter.
Beans
Big Shot
1
Enterprise Account Executive
Revenge - burn em on all the review sites and find who to report them to.
Justatitle
Big Shot
1
Account Executive
Blessing in disguise and a lawsuit for wrongful termination is a pain. Sweeten the severance and go get a new sales gig. 
E_Money
Big Shot
1
💰
Definitely push for that fat severance. Retaliation is difficult to prove, but I guarantee they don't want to back publicity of anything like this so they will be more likely to pay you out and keep you quiet. Blackmail is also hard to prove... if you do it right 🧐
matty
Good Citizen
1
Sales Manager
They did you a favor and showed their true colors. Let it be, if they are willing to fire you over something like that, then they will a pain in the ass to deal with if you go at them. Plus, you will end up sitting back and laughing at their sinking ship from a new gig (been there before). Good luck. 
Flippinghubs
Opinionated
1
Account Executive
Get a fat severance and move on 
CCP
Opinionated
0
VP, Business Development
3 then 2 if 3 isn't satisfactory. 
userdungeon
Opinionated
0
Director
Get an hourly lawyer (preferably one who works with sales reps) to send some mean threats and raise your severance.  Sounds like you got zero network worth salvaging and you should probably keep the company off your resume.
ZeroGrit
Valued Contributor
0
VP of Hoping My Emails Find You Well
Get as much money as you can out of them and then report them to the FTC
PawPaw
Opinionated
0
Business Developmemt Director
If you do want to go after them for retaliation, make sure there is nothing else they can use as evidence to fire you for (i.e. under-performance, peer/manager reviews, unwilling to come back to the office, etc.). I've seen companies use these topics as a way to protect themselves for firing an employee they wanted gone
WomenWantMeFishFearMe
Politicker
0
AM
Lawsuit inbound
Corpslovechild
Politicker
0
Inbound Sales Manager
Do not sign a confidentiality agreement. 


What was the company doing ileagally? 
taylor
Executive
0
Strategic Account Executive
lol 10/10 options here
makeshithappen617
0
SDM
Thats bs 

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