From Uncapped Dreams to Midnight Pings...My Ramp-Up Reality Check

I moved into a brand-new industry.

No network. No playbook. Just hunger, hustle, and the promise of uncapped commission.

That wasn’t the only reason I jumped ship.

I left my last company to get real experience selling into banks, crypto, and fintech.

I wanted to be dangerous in all three. And I thought this role would give me that exposure.

Day two on the job?

They put me on a plane and sent me to a conference. Zero onboarding. Just...“Go close.”

A week later: “Don’t worry, we’ll train you. No expectations for the first six months.” Sounds great, right?

Now fast forward... midnight texts from that same person asking why deals aren’t moving.

In our daily meetings:

“Why isn’t your pipeline bigger?” I was asked to build a 2 million pipeline and I built it from revisit laters and closed losts as instructed.

“Why are things moving so slowly?” well it's a pretty big pipeline things should move slow like we agreed 6 months

“What’s the update with X?”


So I dig. I start reviving every closed-lost and revisit later in the CRM.

The response...“You’re not doing it the right way." Did you just hand me over all those deals to look into?


Fine. I adopt their “process.” (who their top performer isn't adopting by the way)

Which, by the way, means I can't even send an email without approval.

Every email has to go through a review first... before I send it, and within an hour of a meeting ending.

But they often take hours (even a day) to respond.

So I started calling it out.

“You’re holding me back. This violates my PIP expectations.”

Because that’s right... I’m now on a PIP.

And honestly? The PIP is a blessing in disguise.

Everything’s in writing.

Nothing can hide in WhatsApp messages anymore.

When something’s delayed, I can point to the doc and say, “Not on me. You’re breaching the terms.”


The expectations in the PIP?

  • 4x the outreach of our SDR
  • 5 meetings booked per week
  • Respond to internal messages in 15 minutes
  • Every email reviewed and approved
  • Email must go out 1 hour after every meeting

Oh, and they don’t use Slack. They just have it.

They use WhatsApp.

It’s noisy, chaotic, and untrackable. I’ve flagged this so many times... still the main channel. Meanwhile, they keep comparing me to reps who came from direct competitors, who’ve been in the space for years.

I’m new. I’m doing the work. I’m sourcing opportunities.

Hell, I presented to three banks by month two (two of which I sourced myself). Not my best performance... but that’s why I asked others to join.

To learn. To level up. They are like we shouldn't have allowed you to start with high stakes situation. Duh that's why I added you on the calls! After in the onboarding you mentioned our main customers are banks!

I even forced two weekly check-ins with my cofounder to align and get feedback. And guess what?

I’m hitting my targets.

Every single one.

Still, the heat hasn’t cooled.

Even my colleagues ask me privately: “Why are they so fixated on you?” and on calls, people genuinely seem sympathetic.

Now here’s the twist...

I’m interviewing elsewhere.

One company loves me. But I also introduced them to a friend—someone who was laid off and needed a shot. Now they’re leaning toward me over him.

It’s weighing on me. And I’m about to become a dad.

I want to be a provider...I don’t mind the hustle and burning the midnight oil.

I live for accountability. But when you’re working twice as hard just to prove you belong, while the rules change depending on who’s asking... it’s a different game.


I came here to build something. To grow. To sell with confidence and integrity, but every time their comments are robbing me of it.

To experience the full stack: crypto, fintech, banking.

Instead, I’m just trying to stay afloat in a sea of contradictions.


It's a long while since I posted here and thanks for the email reminder.

I miss the community. I miss learning from others. I miss sharing stories like this.


So Bravado fam... what would you do?

You’re ramping.

You’re hitting targets.

But trust is eroding.

And the clock is ticking, two weeks left now.


Would you stay and fight for the vision you signed up for?

Or walk if you get an offer somewhere? The post about someone hitting 148% of the PIP and still getting laid off got me thinking to walk.


Oh, and I had to use ChatGPT to help me structure these thoughts. There’s so much happening, and it’s been tough trying to keep track of everything while staying aligned with the expectations placed on me. It’s a lot, but maybe it helps me make sense of it all.


Let me know in the comments. I'm all ears.

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Filth
Tycoon
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Live Filthy or Die Clean
Good post, nice to credit the gpt but you don't need to when you actually put content in for it to work with. I'm saying get out and talk to that friend that you may win over. PIP wins are temp at best and if that dudes a real friend he'll understand your situation with your new family and the need. Plus once in, no reason not to talk the new org into hiring him anyhow.

TLDR: get out, you & fam > all, be honest with friend
jefe
Arsonist
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🍁
Agreed. This is the use case for GPT.
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
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Senior Account Executive
I do because I suck at structure and I've been over reliant on it. also I have no shame in saying so I use it for my emails.
jefe
Arsonist
5
🍁
First of all, congrats on the upcoming little one! You're in a for a treat.

But this sounds like HELL. GTFO right away.

I'd say that regardless, but you're going to have a family. NOT WORTH IT.,

Don't feel bad about your friend, and if you do, push through it and take care of yourself and your growing family. That's what's most important.

I'll reiterate - GTFO.

PIP = PAID INTERVIEW PERIOD.
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
3
Senior Account Executive
I'm still without the offer but like the hiring manager communicated to me that she stopped sending the offer letter because I said I'm interested and she'd rather work with me given my CV and the 2 week overlap we had before I leave my previous company. (she saw my numbers)
Sunbunny31
Arsonist
2
Sr Sales Executive 🐰
The micromanagement alone is soul-crushing.Then add the mixed messages and the conflicting directives. Hard, hard pass.
Revenue_Rambo
Politicker
5
Bad MFer
Do not quit unless you have another offer in hand. If you quit you get nothing. If you get fired you can at least file unemployment.

Continue to document everything. Screen shot the WhatsApp conversations. And be ready to have Dan Goodman on speed dial if they try to pull some shady shit.
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
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Senior Account Executive
of course I won't quit, but the PIP will end in 2 weeks so yea regardless of how he words it, even if the manager likes me it seems the "management board" made up their mind.
like yesterday he texted the management board are happy with your increased activity.
My wife says he might be doing this just to get the most out of you. But a PIP with a timeline you can't underestimate the impact it remains a threat regardless of the intention. They could have word it in any different way if they had other intentions but they chose PIP.
Sunbunny31
Arsonist
1
Sr Sales Executive 🐰
One of our frequent contributors survived a PIP and was let go a little while later. It's never a good sign.
Pachacuti
Politicker
5
They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
From what you described, I'm surprised you are still there. But Sales people are generally not quitters and you're demonstrating this quality.
I'd say that after reading your rant, you and the company just aren't a fit for each other. It may be where you want to be at and doing what you want to do, but there's something which just isn't a fit. I ran into this in a role years ago. The role and company was a good fit for me (on paper) but there was something of a rub between me and my boss, despite my best efforts. I lasted 6 months.

You're best off to find a new gig while you have your current role. And since they put you on PIP, that should be the incentive you need to get out.
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
3
Senior Account Executive
Agreed, l see the writing on the wall, I'm not welcome. there is nothing wrong with that some people you vibe with others you don't. I'm vibing with everyone in the company but the co-founders.
Btw not blaming them for anything it looks like an obvious misalignment of expectations. There is a lesson learnt for me about setting up boundaries. It's a shame really because I didn't close a deal and that is KILLING ME SOO MUCH especially I have two in the last stages!
oldcloser
Arsonist
4
💀
I think I’m just echoing conventional wisdom here, but from the outside this picture isn’t the least bit foggy. You can’t fix bullshit with credible contention. It doesn’t resonate. That kind of insanity is inbred in that kind of shit culture. Out of your control and not your fault. Get the new gig. GTFO. Your friend will understand.

Congrats on the procreation.
ButterSales
Valued Contributor
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Sales Ops
Sounds like a pretty bad sales culture tbh. Good on ya for putting in the work and still crushing it, all things considered.

Doesn’t sound like a situation I would like personally. Depends what you value.

When I look for new sales jobs, the sales culture is pretty high on my list. To me that means realistic expectations, people who understand or have done sales, and environment that will allow me to thrive.

To me not having that can devalue efforts, and at least to me, not having that wouldn’t make me stay. (And sometimes, you don’t know until you start)

…anyways just my two cents
Gasty
Notable Contributor
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War Room Community Manager
Firstly, congrats on the promotion of a lifetime! :D

We missed you here. It's good to have you back!

Honestly, I’m surprised you’re still sailing that same ship. Get out and explore. You can be the champ in "crypto, fintech, banking" somewhere else too. You got more important things to worry about now.

We all get it, sales is about the hustle, the late nights, the grind but who are we doing all this for?

As for the friend situation - whether you talk to them or not, both of you applied, and only one will get it. If you hadn’t applied, who's to say someone else wouldn’t have edged them out anyway? Get the job first, then lift your friend up even higher.

Hustling is great, but some places just won’t change, no matter how hard you push. When that happens, the smartest move is to walk away. There are always more companies. Always fresh opportunities.

Don’t just float to survive - swim to win.
Gasty
Notable Contributor
3
War Room Community Manager
Also, great use of GPT!!! A great post indeed.
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
1
Senior Account Executive
it's a different ship, I changed companies different industries I'm 3 months in that new company. but still sailing the same shitty culture.
Honestly, since PIP in that new company the work became less stressful. Funny because I only have 2 weeks left to know the "decision" but like the daily calls since it feels like they no longer count me in and the deals I'm on they have someone else on it. or they are heavily directly involved (you could say because I'm new, or because I'll be let go)
medhardwaredr
Politicker
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Director of Sales NA
This sounds brutal. Approval to send an email? Holy hell I stopped reading there. Bail find a good company/ product and go from there
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
2
Senior Account Executive
It is, too many bottlenecks the point of the PIPs is that I get to graduate from that. I don't have a problem btw with it but why don't assign me a peer to work with me and review stuff? Or allow me to check with a peer you trust since it's obvious you don't trust me. But even when I do talk to a peer and get their guidance they still have comments and go sending the email directly to my contacts and champions then update me later.
Like this situation I asked the most successful AE 2 years in the company to help me address a bunch of questions. We worked on them he literally gave me all the answers. I send over the answers they tell me it's all wrong. I'm like what should I do now. if he doesn't have the answers who will? why am I getting the flak for this?
I don't know whether if there is this bias against me, I cannot tell? I didn't see others tackle these questions live to see if the management behaviour with them is consistent like they are with me.
Kosta_Konfucius
Politicker
2
ERP Sales
You have to respond to all internal messages within 15 min that’s insane
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
1
Senior Account Executive
from the PIP discussion that sounded like the most painful part. when they text while I'm on a call and don't see it they think I'm ignoring them. They just need an answer even if I'll get back to you. Fine during working hours. but a lot of the communications happen at 11:30 pm. My mistake was doing a call or two during these hours and now they expect me to be around there.
Sunbunny31
Arsonist
2
Sr Sales Executive 🐰
You've gotten great feedback already, but I want to add my congratulations on your upcoming child. Second, thank you for admitting to using GPT. It was done so well I almost thought my Aidar was off, but you've restored my confidence in my detective ability.
Finally - go get that offer or another, and get out. There's no fixing that horrible sales culture. It's not you, it's definitely them, and you deserve to work in a place that isn't crazy and appreciates hard work.
QWhiz
Tycoon
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Founding AE / ex-SDR
Is this happening with you alone? Or your fellow colleagues in the same and different departments as well? Do you see more negative reviews on company's glassdoor page recently? @SalesPharaoh
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
0
Senior Account Executive
no no it seems like it's happening to me more than others there is still this with others. But I feel the focus is on me. I don't know. No I don't any reviews on Glassdoor.
My issue is I need space and my manager is the co-founder and CEO he isn't giving me any always on my WhatsApp always tracking everything that it's a headache I'm constantly having to reply his WhatsApps than doing the actual work
F5onrepeat
Politicker
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Sales minion
Get out ASAP. Your current manager is going to keep making your life miserable and will most likely not care at all about the little one on the way.
Go somewhere you feel wanted.
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