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Help/Advice wanted about the vax

I figured this is a good forum for this question cuz ya'll anonymous.


Should I get the vaccine if I have a bad gut feeling about it causing long term health side effects? Seriously, the only reason I am even considering this jab is PURELY based on societal pressure. I have a great fucking immune system and I am not all afraid of dying from COVID, not a single ounce. The fact that I can't sue the manufactures later on if I get fucking cancer or some shit is pure BULLSHIT and makes me want to not take it however I feel like it's either get the fucking jab or get looked at like an asshole and get my freedom taken away with these fucking passports everyone keeps talking about.


Politics aside, what the fuck should I do? Just get the jab and risk it or stand firm in my belief that it is potentially dangerous and my future self is totally fucked?

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chubbspeterson
Politicker
+5
Senior Business Development Associate
I have zero medical background, but if you're confident that your immune system can handle covid, I think you should be equally confident that it can hold up against any "potential side effects" of a vaccine. 
TheRealPezDog
Notable Contributor
+8
Account Manager
Good call! And great name too!
chubbspeterson
Politicker
+5
Senior Business Development Associate
haha thanks. and lot's of good replies in here, do what feels right for you, it's your body
GDO
Politicker
+7
BDM
This is a bit of a skewed reasoning. 

I got vaccinated btw
BigMeech
WR Officer
+11
Coors Light Advocate
Talk to your doctor, not a bunch of soulless caffeinated assholes on the Internet. None of us have medical degrees, and so none of us can offer you valid advice.
TheRealPezDog
Notable Contributor
+8
Account Manager
My doctor is like the Fauci of local news around here, I already know what that soulless asshole is gonna say... I am more or less looking for guidance from you sons-a-bitches because I don't trust the "experts"  I want to discuss this with regular folks like myself.  
BigMeech
WR Officer
+11
Coors Light Advocate
Then, to me, it sounds more like you have already made up your mind and are just looking for validation.

Again, when it comes to anything medical, I would not listen to a single thing anybody in this forum says, and I’d talk to your doctor.
CaneWolf
Politicker
+12
Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract
Around, no exaggeration, 99.99% of doctors are recommending that people get the vaccine. In the United States, 99.5% of the recent deaths are from unvaccinated people.

Long COVID is terrifying:

- https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/olympics/olympic-athletes-battling-long-covid-im-really-struggling-to-exercise-still/ar-AAMoa0h
- https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/magazine/long-covid-nightmare.html
- https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/23/health/long-covid-symptoms.html

Do you know why we don't have measles, polio, smallpox, etc., outbreaks anymore? Because people get those vaccines.
funcoupons
WR Officer
+11
Kahluapons
In all fairness, at least in Canada nurses and physicians that publicly express  hesitancy about getting the vaccine are losing their jobs and having their medical licenses threatened, so it's really not surprising that most medical professionals are supporting it publicly. Just something to consider.
CaneWolf
Politicker
+12
Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract
That's decidedly not occurring in the US. You have to say some whackadoo shit to even have a sliver of a chance of that happening here and you're probably still fine.
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Sh
SharpEleven
Praised Answer
+1
Account Executive
Damn son just get the vaccine and be done with it.
TheRealPezDog
Notable Contributor
+8
Account Manager
Love it
Rallier
Politicker
+9
Account Executive
Absolutely don't take a bunch of advice from salespeople. None us are doctors. Talk to somebody who actually knows what they are talking about.
SaaSguy
Politicker
+5
Account Executive
Science says vaccine is safe. What sources that aren't social media are leading you to believe that it's potentially dangerous?
TheRealPezDog
Notable Contributor
+8
Account Manager
mainly the fact that they have immunity from future lawsuits.  Why would they take that step if the vaccine was safe?  Seems to me like the only logical reason for them taking that approach is if they are UNSURE that it is safe... like, it hasn't been studied long enough (I don't need a source to know it hasn't been studied and vetted for long term side effects)
SaaSguy
Politicker
+5
Account Executive
I sell software and in our service agreement we have a clause about immunity from litigation. Doesn't mean my software is bad. 
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funcoupons
WR Officer
+11
Kahluapons
Don't do anything based on what others might say/think...always go with your gut, and what you truly believe. This is a personal decision and one you have to make for yourself. 

I don't mind putting it out there that I've decided not to get vaccinated for the time being. I'm not anti vax, I have received other vaccinations with no issue. However, this treatment is very new and I'm waiting to see results of some studies on longer term side effects before I make my decision. I too am young and at very low risk of being seriously affected by COVID and am fairly sure I had it at the end of 2019 before it was a thing so I likely have antibodies anyway. I also have a family member who is currently in the hospital experiencing some very severe side effects from the vaccine (her doctors have confirmed it was an adverse reaction so I'm not just guessing or assuming,) so I'm also wary because of that.

As for vaccine passports...at this point I'm not allowed to do some things that vaccinated people are, like go to a concert or visit certain countries but I don't see that as good enough reason to rush into a decision so I'm fine with it. The vaccine passport thing will not last forever. 

Hope that helps.
SaaSam
Opinionated
+4
Account Executive
My sister is a nurse and in the same boat. Decided not to get it and is pretty open about that fact as there have been some suggestions that it may effect fertility, she simply doesn't want to risk that.
funcoupons
WR Officer
+11
Kahluapons
One of my concerns as well, as I haven't had kids but want them in the future. 
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TheRealPezDog
Notable Contributor
+8
Account Manager
It does, thank you!
funcoupons
WR Officer
+11
Kahluapons
You're welcome.
TheRealPezDog
Notable Contributor
+8
Account Manager
I love you fuckers, no matter what, thank you for sharing your opinions and please know that I value them.  For what it's worth I would absolutely get it if I could sue the manufacturers in the event that I have an adverse reaction.  I probably will get it anyway so I stop getting bullied.  Here's to hoping it doesn't kill me young! 
funcoupons
WR Officer
+11
Kahluapons
Just curious...who's bullying you? You know you don't have to talk about it with anyone, right? 
SalesVEEP
Opinionated
+3
VP of Sales
I'm strongly pro vaccine. Especially when you see the "neanderthal" states of Texas and Florida struggling SO badly right now (although it does make me laugh now). That said, don't get it simply because you're getting bullied.
avocadobegood
Acclaimed Answer
+7
MM Account Executive
sounds like you've got your mind made up if you don't trust your doctor and are asking an anonymous internet forum of idiot salespeople what do to.

that's your prerogative to not get the jab, but keep in mind that you needed proof of vaccination for any number of shit to go to school as kid or certain shots to travel internationally (malaria, smallpox, etc). it's not a new thing, at all.

it's a personal choice as we're blessed to live in a free country - just wish more folks like yourself would see the common good that getting the jab can do instead of framing it as societal pressure. but again, no judgement - that's your choice as i'm vaxxed and won't lose sleep over it.

i wish more folks would read about the 2nd wave of the spanish flu though - this shit ain't over as badly as we (vaxxed, waxxed, or none of the above) all want it to be -  https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence
TheRealPezDog
Notable Contributor
+8
Account Manager
Once it has ACTUAL FDA approval like all of those others you mentioned I will consider taking it, until then I am simply opting out of the clinical trial
SandwichMan
Valued Contributor
+6
BDR Team Lead
Like most of the others are saying on here, I'd take any advice from this thread with a whole shaker of salt.

My 2 cents, I'm not scared by how quickly the vaccine was developed. Covid presented a new threat of extinction if we did nothing about it, so everything else was put on hold in the vax/genomic research community and all of this energy was put towards the vaccine. The timeline makes a lot of sense IMO.
friendlyginge
Opinionated
+1
Account Executive
I used to be against getting the vaccine for the same reasons but needed it to go back to the office. Now that we’ve seen what happens when folks don’t get vaxxed, I think those who are able should get it (of course there are always exceptions and that is between you and your doctor). I would be absolutely devastated if we had to lock down again, last year was the worst year of my life and I want to keep our freedoms
SalesVEEP
Opinionated
+3
VP of Sales
I think your likelihood of dying from COVID is FAR greater than any long term negative side effect from the shot but you’re welcome to make your own choices when it comes to healthcare. Personally, I think it’s stupid not to especially when you see who’s going through it right now - the unvaccinated people.
Chep
WR Officer
+10
Business Development Team Lead
Only got it because my work made it mad easy to get and they were offering the J&J so it was one and down. Can confirm I felt like shit the next day but I did play pick-up basketball the next day so I clearly didn't feel that shitty.


Overall, if you feel healthy I say don't get it unless that passport thing becomes legit. Everyone has a different risk tolerance and from what I can see in your post it appears like you do not need it unless these covid passports become a thing.
Incognito
WR Officer
+10
Master of Disaster
Get the fucking vaccine. I’m tired of living in a bubble. I’m sure everyone else is too. I’m glad you think you have an amazing immune system. Others do not. By not getting it, you’re causing them harm. You want freedom? We all do. Freedom from Covid. There is only one way that is gonna happen.
TheRealPezDog
Notable Contributor
+8
Account Manager
If vaccinated people can also spread it then tell me who I am unnecessarily harming other than potentially myself? Also it’s looking like the vaccine is useless anyway…
Wanna.Be.Rick.Spielman
Opinionated
+3
Account Executive
@TheRealPezDog you would be harming people that don't have the same immune system as you, even if they have been vaccinated.  The vaccine is to protect others, not yourself. So if you have not been vaccinated but friends have been, you can still infect them.  That is why reaching herd immunity is so important. Obviously, I totally think it is something to talk with medical professionals on, but I am just giving my two cents because the question was asked.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
+11
Needer of Life Alert
That is something you need to discuss with your practitioner and your family. Ultimately you are the only one that can make that decision.
HappyGilmore
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
Similar to what people have said, talk to your medical professional and get their opinion and do some solid research on the Internet, not just listen to what people should tell you to do.

Personally got the vaccine myself, however each person has the right to do what's best for them, no judgement coming from me whatever you decide to do.

The vaccine passports on the other hand, that's something I have some serious mixed feelings on. 
StringerBell
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
Except it’s not just about you - it’s about protecting others. You could get it keep passing it on. Fucking unvaccinated going to keep this going on forever. Can’t believe this is the highest voted answer.
harebrained
Opinionated
+3
Enterprise Account Executive
I mean.. if something bad does happen we'll all be part of the biggest class action lawsuit ever - and they'll probably work hard to mitigate any issues. But my medical professional friends say vaccine side effects are usually pretty immediate. Who f*cking knows, I'm happy to have my freedom back.
StringerBell
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
You get the vaccine to also protect others. That shouldn’t be a difficult concept to grasp. If you truly don’t give a shit that you will not only pass it on to to someone more vulnerable or worse, help create new variants, then I guess that’s you exercising your ‘freedom’. Just know that it makes you an asshole also.
VineMic
Good Citizen
+1
Account Executive
@TheRealPezDog First of all this is your choice. No matter what anyone tells you it's your choice as to whether you choose to get a jab or not. Second, we're not doctors but nobody should be bullying you on this forum to get it, so you do you. Third, for anyone that has something to say, unless you're a qualified professional, your opinion is as good as asking an accountant how to be a good sales rep... Everyone has an opinion but are just not even close to being a qualified professional!

Stay safe either way and hope everyone on this forum and their families don't get sick.

No pressure, no stress, the hell with what people have to say @TheRealPezDog this is your choice, not anyone elses.
BallerOfTheYear
Arsonist
+5
Señor Biz Dev
Dawg, the question “what should I do” is rhetorical. 

You already know you don't need it, you admit the only reason you’d get it is societal pressures, and even if you don’t think it’ll kill you, you’re aware that there could be terrible side effects that most people don’t even have the courage to consider.

It’s no one’s business what you decide, don’t let the mob tell you that you need to do anything.

Your body your choice!
TheRealPezDog
Notable Contributor
+8
Account Manager
Thanks!  Great advice. 
saleswvlf
Valued Contributor
+3
Sales Development Representative
My doctor recommends against it - he's seen side effects from his patients that are permanent. Long-term heart failure for one. He's not anti-vax either.
TheRealPezDog
Notable Contributor
+8
Account Manager
Scary shit man
saleswvlf
Valued Contributor
+3
Sales Development Representative
whistleblowers are recently coming out about VAERS data. estimated vax deaths ~50k. Do what you want to your body, but having an informed decision is always the best way to go!
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Gyro25
Politicker
+6
BDR
I got 1/2 Pfizer shots. I'm hesitant to get my 2nd tbh. Not to toot my horn, but I'm pretty damn healthy. I eat well, get vitamin D, train, do jiu jitsu and lift weights. However, with younger people getting this shit, it's makes me a bit wary about whether I should hold out. I'm in no place to judge, but I'd reach out to a medical professional about your concerns, not a bunch of degenerates like us.. Lol
cw95
Politicker
+6
Pricing Executive
I have had asthma all my life, not too bad so that I need to be really careful but anything can set it off. 

Since lockdown, I have been isolating and being cautious just in case. 

Due to having asthma, I have the normal flu vaccine every winter without knowing what's in it so I have taken that approach. 

If it helps with mental health and the anxiety that it brings, consider it, but also think do I? Why I say that is because you are you. But the Gov isn't going to lie. If I thought it would hurt me and affect my asthma I wouldn't do it. 
paddy
WR Officer
+10
Account Executive
All I can say is that jet fuel can't melt steal.
GrindingSales
Opinionated
+5
Account Executive
You are kind of going from societal pressure to getting anonymous peer influence.  Only you know what you are comfortable with, but like most are saying, you need to go to an expert and hash it out.  
Wo
Wolfof7thStreet
Opinionated
+5
AE
I am not a medical professional, or amature. but that said, just get the vaccine. if it makes you less likely to spread it, isnt that enough? If you can fight off this virus, you can fight off the vaccine
ju
justatopproducer
Opinionated
+1
National Consultant
No, listen to your gut if thats how you feel. I believe im in the same boat as you on the immune side (only sick days i take are hangovers) Also, no politics aside.. if you’re healthy and confident in your immune system do not get jabbed once twice or three times. Lol. Do you take care of your health so your neighbor doesnt get obese? Do you workout and eat right so a co-worker doesnt get aids or cancer? No, why would you get a vaccine for a virus you don’t have and it isn’t proven to stop you or anyone else from getting it either. No medical degree, but I was pre-med, and have many friends that work in healthcare and they say follow your gut and do what you think is right. Most of all dont judge anyone else for having it or not. Hope this belps
EdwardBlake
SBDR
Used to feel the same way myself. I ended up getting the jab. Why? The same reason I wear a mask. Like Batman said:  "The mask isn't for you, it's to protect those you care about". The vaccine is the same way.  I'd rather have lifelong gonorrhea than giving potential fatal covid to someone I care about.
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