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JC10X

Senior Sales Manager

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Help! Should I start looking for another job?

I have nothing to do at my job anymore - we cant listen to calls, there is no data and no dashboards to analyse, coaching is now done via a tool that sends you videos and articles and all sales playbooks are now standard so no more creativity and out of the box thinking.


Every time we bring a topic on the table to our leadership it becomes a managing objections session rather than a conversation.


What would you do?


Is it time to forrest gump?

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tonysoprano
Tycoon
6
Sr. AE
Dude I'm of the mindset that if stuff like that starts happening to make you consider leaving, it's time to look elsewhere. Unless you're making a shit ton of money, if you don't enjoy it and you're no longer growing in your career, forrest jump onto the next gigย 
JC10X
Politicker
2
Senior Sales Manager
I am making good money, but I can do that selling my body too lol. The problem is what if they notice I'm no longer necessary before I make a move?ย 
tonysoprano
Tycoon
2
Sr. AE
I mean it sounds like you're hitting goals even though they're not giving you many resources to support you so that may be a ways out since you're still making them money. It def couldn't hurt to throw some feelers out there
JC10X
Politicker
1
Senior Sales Manager
100% all of my accounts hit goal and crushed Q2 - but now, I feel a bit useless if you ask me. Thats the true problem.
CaneWolf
Politicker
3
Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract
I am so confused. How did this happen?
JC10X
Politicker
0
Senior Sales Manager
It just did, random things in life.ย  But no in all honestly its good intentions with poor execution and lack of experience. Also we allowed it to happen - the "I must continue to get paid" way.
Thesamiam13x
Celebrated Contributor
2
Sales
Yea I would hate that, unless im still hitting goals I would stay just for that.ย 
JC10X
Politicker
1
Senior Sales Manager
Im still hitting goals, blindly.
CharmingSalesGal
Politicker
2
Account Executive
Wtf ๐Ÿ˜‚ I have so many questions.

Who thought this was a good idea? Do you even have Managers or Directors anymore? Why can't you listen to calls or see data? Is the company trying to hide something? Has the company been doing well/is it set to succeed in the future?

This seems very skeptical to me. ๐Ÿšฉ Depending on all of the answers to the above questions, I'd probably start looking for another role...
JC10X
Politicker
2
Senior Sales Manager
A new person that recently came unto power thought it was a good idea. We are trying to save $ on tech so we have limited visibility on calls or data. The company is not trying to hide anything, they're just "trying to figure it out" and give "instructions". It was doing well, nope its not set to succeed, they are freestyling with hope.
CharmingSalesGal
Politicker
3
Account Executive
"Hope is not a strategy" is what my previous VP of Sales used to always tell us. Yikes, yeah start looking around.
JC10X
Politicker
2
Senior Sales Manager
Haha Agreed! Thank you!
looper1010
Celebrated Contributor
0
Solutions Specialist
Do they not have a background in sales?ย  I've seen this happen when a non-sales person starts managing the sales team and ducks everything up.ย ย 
Jhonbpal
Fire Starter
0
CEO
very true!
BurnedOutSalesman
Good Citizen
2
Co-Founder
If the deal flow is solid and you are making good money, I would stay. Otherwise, start looking
JC10X
Politicker
1
Senior Sales Manager
No deals actually, just good money. But its not vybing with my soul.
Beasthouse
Opinionated
2
Corporate trainer
how long till the company realizes they don't need you? hahaha can management be done by siri?

JC10X
Politicker
2
Senior Sales Manager
Idk man, without dashboards and while my team is still crushing goals - it may take some time lol. But, they may say hey we've downsized, this senior listens and follows orders, this senior is a leader and likes to do things that work. I think the latter should be fired, we dont like things that work, we like when people follow instructions. Management may as well be done by Siri haha.
Beasthouse
Opinionated
2
Corporate trainer
facts jajaja i think its like a business if you can prove you hit their demands they don't have a foot to stand on

JC10X
Politicker
1
Senior Sales Manager
It depends on the demands. Can I crush quota and bring revenue yes, can I follow unthorough ideas, yes... will it help us crush quota - no... so if we lose revenue can they maintain how much Im paid to follow bad ideas...idk about that one.
Beasthouse
Opinionated
1
Corporate trainer
yes they absolutely can i doubt their only stream of income is kpis
JC10X
Politicker
0
Senior Sales Manager
the most substantial amount is - just risk management lol
MrPotter
Valued Contributor
2
Trainer
Sounds pretty boring, and I feel the company is not too healthy either. Explore options, and if you see a better, more exciting one. Then, Run forrest.
JC10X
Politicker
2
Senior Sales Manager
Thank you Mr. Potter!
bamageorge
Celebrated Contributor
2
International Sales Director
When you stop enjoying your job and becomes a burden, then it's time to bounce my dude.ย 
JC10X
Politicker
1
Senior Sales Manager
Facts! Its not a burden, its just extremely boring and ungratifying. The best part is the money - the means not so much :(
Panda4489
Politicker
2
Head of Some Shit
Breh. Run like the wind
JC10X
Politicker
0
Senior Sales Manager
Hahahah! Indeed!
MaximumRaizer
Politicker
2
Sales Manager
I am so confused. How did this happen?
Blackwargreymon
Politicker
2
MDR
Yea I would hate that, unless im still hitting goals I would stay just for that.ย 
icepick
1
BDM
Gump it out of there!
JC10X
Politicker
0
Senior Sales Manager
Gumping!
LordOfWar
Tycoon
1
Blow it up
Look elsewhere on the company time. At least you'd be doing something productive.
JC10X
Politicker
0
Senior Sales Manager
Hahaha!
NoSuperhero
Politicker
1
BDR LEAD
Sounds like a very solvable problem, we just need to know what are the priorities of the people on top. Are we going to be ideal based selling or showing the numbers?
JC10X
Politicker
0
Senior Sales Manager
Less headcount more revenueย 
NoSuperhero
Politicker
0
BDR LEAD
Trimming extra fat? Or simply wanting more revenue?
JC10X
Politicker
0
Senior Sales Manager
wanting more revenue without a clear path
Lambda
Tycoon
1
Sales Consultant
just keep you mind open, and yea search around, you dont have to take anything you dont want
JC10X
Politicker
0
Senior Sales Manager
Thank you!
looper1010
Celebrated Contributor
1
Solutions Specialist
These sound like red flags.ย  It wouldn't hurt to start interviewing while working there to cover all your bases.ย  Does new management not have a sales background?
JC10X
Politicker
1
Senior Sales Manager
Haha thats a great question. They may have gotten that bckg from a book. Not sure.
looper1010
Celebrated Contributor
1
Solutions Specialist
Having leadership with no sales background can be terrible for morale as well as sales.ย  They don't know how to properly manage and motivate the team.ย  A huge disconnect.ย  I know from experience :(
JC10X
Politicker
0
Senior Sales Manager
X2 :(
GDO
Politicker
1
BDM
Look around but make sure youโ€™re ready for the change in pace again.ย 

also look into extra stuff you can do within the org.ย 
JC10X
Politicker
0
Senior Sales Manager
Thank you will do!
Clashingsoulsspell
Politicker
1
ISR
Yea I would hate that, unless im still hitting goals I would stay just for that.ย 
MR.StretchISR
Politicker
1
ISR
Who thought this was a good idea?
Jhonbpal
Fire Starter
0
CEO
Its time to go.
Flippinghubs
Opinionated
0
Account Executive
Yeah, id likely start the searchย 
Mr.Floaty
Politicker
0
BDR
Be healthy in a selfish way. This means take care of yourself first, so that you can be strong and care for those around you too.
Cyberjarre
Politicker
0
BDR
Waiting for Battlefield....

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