If they haven't picked up yet, how often should I call in a day/week.
Frog Jenkins
How often can I cold call a hiring manager
14
Until they answer. Find their momโs number and spoof it.
yeah but how many per day/week before it turns them against me
You want a maximum attempts permissible by hour number? 85. Donโt quit
Your best bet is hourly.
cool. will be using your number as practice
Did you apply as well?
no because i donโt want a recruiter to DQ me before i have an internal conversation. itโs a tough one because sometimes the hiring manager wants to refer me after I apply.
Methinks thou worry too much. Apply to the job. Multi thread follow up to the recruiter and the HM.
Thank you sire
Definitely apply
advice taken. thanks
Apply my dude.
insane alfa here
Are u also reaching out via LI or just calling them?
just calling. sometimes email. Im going to start sending out sequences again.
What do your sequences say?
LI is becoming my most powerful tool every time I apply for a job I immediately shoot the recruiter a connection request with a note asking to sit down
great idea. recruiter at what level? how do you find the right recruiter. do you look up โSales Recruiterโ โGTM Recruiterโ and go from there?
depends on the company if it's a small startup that I normally work for they only will have one or 2 recruiters on the payroll a larger company you will have to do some digging into each recruiter to see what departments they hire for and find the one that hires sales or marketing.
and by convert, you mean what?
reply. lead to an interview.
Pipeline analysis time. If youโre getting interviews, itโs not your job prospecting that needs help. Itโs likely your targeting.
Ya IMO getting the interview is the hardest part once I get in the interview im in
can you clarify? iโve gotten interviews through referrals from SDRs and from directly contacting the hiring manager or recruiter. what do you think
I think youโre either interviewing for jobs you canโt get because youโre not qualified OR youโre falling apart in interviews. What do you think?
Considering the tech layoffs I am definitely competing with more qualified candidates + I havenโt demonstrated that Iโm a promising candidate in later rounds. That being said, I swear iโm 10-20% away from landing a role. I think more volume and better interviewing should get me there.
Edit: Iโve been interviewing at a wide range of company sizes
Edit: Iโve been interviewing at a wide range of company sizes
How can you demonstrate you're a promising candidate? If that's a consistent miss, then that's something you can work on addressing.
This is something someone helped me realize yesterday- I need to directly address their concerns during the interview. For example, when asked โwhy salesโ Iโve been talking about how sales is fulfilling or a great skill instead of talking about how I love being challenged.
A hiring manager once gave me feedback that he thinks I can do the job but wants to know if I want to do the job. I think this is what he was addressing.
A hiring manager once gave me feedback that he thinks I can do the job but wants to know if I want to do the job. I think this is what he was addressing.
Those are some good observations. Hope youโre able to express those in your next interview.
Now sure what to recommend here but all the best
As many times as you want *Just spoof your number*
how do i do that- without getting flagged as โScam Likelyโ
My company had an extension that let us change numbers but you can also borrow friends phones
spam call him until he freaks out & pick it up XD
yeah as long as they do not pick up you can keep trying. Are you doing voicemails?
I am not. Should I?
dont stop until the buy or die in this case give you an interview
yeah literally harassing the entire GTM side of the org from Director level to SDR
are your using email and linkedin
yeah I switched strategies and am now calling + emailing + and linkedin messaging them.
not certain about how to time things but this is how Iโm doing it at the moment.
Call hiring manager
If it goes to voicemail I put the hiring manager in a sequence
Connect with recruiter on LinkedIn and send them an email
not certain about how to time things but this is how Iโm doing it at the moment.
Call hiring manager
If it goes to voicemail I put the hiring manager in a sequence
Connect with recruiter on LinkedIn and send them an email
Too many reach outs and I would DQ you once I found out who it was. My two cents
hahahaha. how many is too many
Idk go once a week. Any more and you become too intrusive.
even if they donโt pick up?
Yes because they know the number. Iโve had people be far too aggressive and itโs a turn off. Keep in mind this is just me though. Others may like it
haha. I appreciate the insight. i would hate it if i were to switch places
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