How to get from IC to Management with a three steps framework

There are many roads to Rome, but these three steps are a good framework to put you in pole position when the next management headcount opens.  


First, figure out why you want to do it. Not all career progression needs to be into management. Also, having people report to you is not always fun. Dealing with people is hard, salespeople harder, top performers.., the worst.

“Why”, will be one of the first questions the organization will ask you, and you need to have a thought-out answer. Maybe you want to start your own business in the future, maybe you enjoy coaching and mentoring, or maybe you want to sit and refresh dashboards all day asking AEs to update Salesforce with the next steps on an opportunity. 

Whatever it is, make sure that you have thought about it. 


After you have thought about the “Why”, put it in a deck. Call it a career plan, life plan, vision statement, call it whatever you want, but this is something that will help you on step three: building a fan base and sponsors in your company. This plan should be 4-6 slides long.

Think of it as an exec-level proposal where you are the goods.


Slide 1: About you privately, who are you outside of work? Pictures, tell a story. 

Slide 2: A visualization timeline of what you have done where, and where you want to go. Here is where you can put in CEO of future business, or maybe FatFIRE at 40, but your promotion should be one of the steps here. With the desired timeline shown.

Slide 3: Your work accomplishments. Awards? Presidents clubs? Mentoring? Gotten other SDR/BDRs promoted to AEs? Certifications? Are you aligning your activities with your company’s culture and values? Slide 3 could be incorporated into slide 2 if you don't make it too busy. 

Slide 4: If this is a life plan then include this slide. If it is a career plan you can exclude it. 

Four topics: Wellness, Legacy, Career, and Finances. 

Summarize top goals within each of the topics. 

Examples: 

Wellness: Read a book a month, exercise, and meditate regularly every other day. 

Legacy: Be a great parent and be remembered as a genuinely good person

Career: Run top-performing teams, start my own business, and be the youngest VP in Company X.

Finances: Earn 100k base within 2 years. FatFIRE by 45. 

The more you share, the more valuable it will be. Also, fun to do with your family/partner.

Slide 5: What you are doing short, medium, and long term to have some progress on the topics described on slide 4. If you keep this to a career plan only, then this slide should contain what you are doing to get improve your chances of promotion. Courses? Coaching? Mentoring? 

Slide 6: Asks. Do you want to have a recurring session with the C-level/VP to go over this plan? Do you need a budget for a coach? Have you seen a course that you would like to expense?


Step three. 

When you have done your plan, show it to everyone and ask for feedback. This is how you get attention to the fact that you want to get a promotion, and that you are taking action to get to where you want to go. It is also a lot easier to send a message to your CEO or Senior Executive and ask for a meeting to get feedback on your career plan than asking for 25 minutes of chitchat over matcha tea.


Follow these three steps and you are going to have good conversations about the next steps in your career. 


Some warnings before starting your promotion journey. 

Make sure you have been in the company for at least 6 months. I'm sure there are exceptions to this rule, but before 6 months you don’t know the players, the politics, the product. And you haven't shown that you know what you are doing. 


You want to hit your KPIs. This doesn't mean that you need to be top performer, it could even hurt your chances if your management is shit, but you do need to hit your KPIs. The KPI doesn't necessarily mean quota attainment only, but if you don't perform on that key metric then you need to be damn good to sell why you are going to make others do so. 


Don’t come up with a plan last minute. You want to build a brand around you that is so clear that when they look at the org chart and think about a new manager they should think about you. They think of you because of that course you took a year ago and how you have been proactively working on the feedback that they have given you. Do that and you will find yourself loving dashboards and asking what's cooking in no time. 



A final note.

I always hated when managers in my organizations were saying that you don’t earn any money as a manager. You don't earn as much per deal, but you have many more people selling into your pocket, so by the end of the year, you should be better off. If there wasn't an economic incentive to be in management, everyone would be ICs. But first-line managers are the BDRs of management. It's a grind and a grind that usually takes 4-6 years to overcome.


I told TennisandSales I would put this post together. My first post on the forum, let me know what you think, and happy to answer any additional questions.



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DragonTiger
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@TennisandSales @SADNESSLieutenant
TennisandSales
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Head Of Sales
Thanks for the shout out @Gustafopoulos!

I would love to know more about your situation and when this was used.

In my opinion this is REALLY in depth and could be way more than needed.

Things I like:
1. having fans in the company. You will not get promoted if leadership does not like what you have accomplished and if they like your approach and like you as a person that will count for something. When I got my first management promotion this was so crucial.
2. Understand why. not everyone is meant to be a manager that is 100% true! and its totally cool if you dont want to be one.
3. having a plan. something to present and share is a good idea but you really need to understand who you are talking to and what they care about.

question:
ive always looked at it from the "can i make my boss's job easier" can I do thinks that they need to do that would help them, and show they I could be a leader?
Did you have this approach at all in your career?

great first post! thanks for not asking about linked in influencer or some shit like that 😂
DragonTiger
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@TennisandSalesI had been in management before but started as IC in a new company. I was top performer and we were growing the territory with more AEs. In order to make sure that they didnt get someone externally I did these steps. I almost didn't get the job because I had forgotten one of the AVPs for the verticals I would work with. But had built enough champions to silence him when he raised some skepticism.

I think leading by example is always great. Ask for stretch assignments is a way to show that you have the bandwidth to do more and also test if you like the gig. All in all, everyone loves when someone takes initiative. Just make sure you got your basics covered before you go on and take on more responsibility.

Make sure that you have a timeline with management communicated so they don't pay you one salary but you are doing two jobs. That usually ends with you doing pretty average work everywhere.
TennisandSales
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love it. stretch assignments are a great way to look at it!
antiASKHOLE
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learning how to manage your manager
Palladium_Rog
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Account Executive
I love this post since I needed information like that. Wish there was a way to save it here for when I'm really ready to move up.

According to my estimations, I still need 1-3 years as IC to have a broader perspective from the bottom level. I mean, you have to understand what BDRs, AEs, etc. are struggling with to know how to coach them and manage them, right?
CuriousFox
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Screenshot it and save it in your phone.
DragonTiger
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VP of Sales
@Palladium_Rogif you think you need 1-3 years then you might be ready already, and you should definitely start the process above by talking with your seniors.

Coaching is to get people to understand where to go. Mentoring is when you tell them what you have been through. You can be a great coach without having been through exactly what your team is going through. Google GROW model for some coaching and mentoring tips.
Palladium_Rog
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Account Executive
In that case I feel mentoring is what I'd feel more comfortable with. But for that I need more experience - hence 1-3 more years as a closer. I want to have experience with clients varying in size, location and industry.
Gasty
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Great post yo.
DragonTiger
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VP of Sales
Thanks!
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Are you guys aiming for management positions (VP or Sales Manager) or focusing for on being the number 1 rep?

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I have been an individual contributor for a couple of years now, when do you think someone is ready to become a Sales Manager? (any attributes, accomplishments etc. that would recommend you have)

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Just had two of my biggest clients cut down on their requirements - need advice on next steps

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