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How to post engaging content and AVOID shitposting: A War Room Masterclass of sorts.

Sparked by today's intense glut of commish farming posts, I was chatting with @BigMeech about posting a snarky thread in response when he came up with a good point: "Why not make it enlightening?"


And he's right. There's way to engage on this platform and spark meaningful discussion without looking like a commish-whore(Which, I get it, I do, but come on). We see it time and again by people like Meech, @funcoupons , @paddy who has his own special way with words, as well as people like @Chep , @swizard , and OG's like @Coffeesforclosers , @poweredbycaffeine , @CadenceCombat , @Incognito , and @CuriousFox .


So I open this up as a forum to question the above members discuss how one can drive and spark meaningful engagement without shitposting, farming, or responding "nice!" to every possible comment.


How DO you all do it so well?


EDIT: By no means is this closed off only to those mentioned, any meaningful input is welcomed!

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CoorsKing
WR Officer
+11
King of the Coors Knights
I wish we could pin this post.

1 - I use the search bar. There are thousands of us on here, and some have been here much longer than the rest of you. Lots of topics have been brought up in the past that had phenomenal discussions. I do not create a ton of my own posts, simply because when I have an idea, I use the search bar first. Chances are, there is already a post about it, and in that case I comment instead. Mistakes do happen though, and I am guilty of accidentally posting duplicates before, but I deleted my dupe and went and upvoted and commented on the original once I realized.

2 - I think there are definitely times where humor is appreciated, and not all of what I post/comment is constructive. However, it is in moderation. Sometimes humor is awarded, sometimes it gets downvoted, it is a risk. If you are going that route, I would suggest going back and looking at some of the more sarcastic posts and determining what the level of acceptable content is. 

3 - If I am going to comment on something, the majority of the time I try to make it a comment that adds value (or at least I think it adds value) to either the OP or someone I am replying to in the comments. Someone last week asked how to get more Bravado commission. I think that is the absolute wrong way to look at it. Instead, focus on adding value. And by value I don't mean simply posting something to fill up the feed. I mean genuinely try to help others on the platform, whether that is by commenting or posting a topic that is related to sales or personal development. If you do that, you get upvotes. Upvotes get you commission. I have found much more success focusing on being as helpful as I can be rather than simply commenting random shit on every post. If I do not have something to contribute to a post, I do not comment most of the time. 

4 - If you are going to post, put some effort into the post. Add something to the body at a minimum. It is very easy to tell who is posting for the sake of farming, and who has a genuine question. Personally, I would not want my reputation to be the person who spams random posts and never gets taken seriously. There are certain people who have earned that reputation in my opinion, and as soon as I see they authored a post I stop reading it and move on at this point. 

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk, hopefully I will see some of you savages at the party tonight. Someone bring a camera, because I owe Paddy a lemon in the eye.

Edit post party: there were no accessible lemons. I did end up with Jalapeño juice in my eye though if that counts…
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
All fantastic points. That third one is huge to me. I stay quiet on many things because, much like sales, authenticity is key. Do I want more commish on here or am I eyeing something in the exchange? Sure. We all are. But I won't comment "yup!" or "this!" just for the sake of one measly point added. I want what I say to be something worth adding to the convo, whether it be my input, my side of things, or a rebuttal/question to help elaborate elsewhere.

Do I still comment jokingly/off-handedly? Yes, but it's in places where I know I can, and in situations that don't require in-depth responses etc.
funcoupons
WR Officer
+11
up in Fiji, under paddy
You took the words right out of my mouth. Agreed x10 with everything in here.
Swarthymovie
Arsonist
+7
SDR
sweet advice mate, i'll use a lot :D
BigCheese
Notorious Answer
+14
Agency Recruiter | Coors Knight
Although I'm not mentioned above, I'd like to suggest that new members should browse the War Room before posting to obtain a sense of acceptable posts, behavior, etiquette, etc.
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
I mentioned those above because they are the first to come to mind, but in no way shape or form is this a closed off discussion! A valid point to make there.
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ChunkyButters
Politicker
+5
AE
Wonder if there is a way to restrict posting until they reach a certain amount of comments or other participations that aren't new threads.
funcoupons
WR Officer
+11
up in Fiji, under paddy
I've thought the same. But I have seen good posts by new users, so I dunno. 
Incognito
WR Officer
+11
Master of Disaster
Well I take it seriously. I try to relate to the poster and share my experience, even if its just to show solidarity. For example: Someone has an issue and asks for advice. I also have a similar issue and maybe not the best advice, but I comment on my situation *with details as to why I feel the same* to let them know they’re not alone and are seen. Like, last friday sucked ass. I made a post about why. The show of support from this community really made me feel a whole lot better and this bitch has 3 new job offers - its only Tuesday 😎 And Obvioulsy everything else already mentioned. Its called not being a shithead.
CoorsKing
WR Officer
+11
King of the Coors Knights
Sorry I missed you in my comment BTW! While there are a lot of farmers, there are also many more fantastic posters (as evident by the MVP thread) and I can't always immediately think of everyone haha. 

Congrats on the new offers!!
WCK
Notorious Answer
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Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
SHEEEEESH, THREE?! What a savage over here!

Relatability is huge, and venting too at times because we can all relate to Friday's like the one you had(Still a hearty fuck you to your manager btw). But bring value whenever you can, without posting just to post ya know?
Incognito
WR Officer
+11
Master of Disaster
ICYMI - don’t fuck with me. I’ll steamroll your ass 

I can’t wait to steal all my firm’s clients 🥰
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funcoupons
WR Officer
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up in Fiji, under paddy
Woo! Congrats on the offers! Leaning towards one over the other? 
Incognito
WR Officer
+11
Master of Disaster
I have three more coming but it’s really down to 2 - do I want to stay in a big corporate machine with a decent reputation or go a bit smaller to stay closer to my clients? 

Smaller meaning I’m not pitching billion dollar firms internationally for a piece of the business, but the majority of my target demographic does 5-100M in revenue anyway so it’s probably a moot point because then I get 100% of the business 🤷‍♀️

They’re all in Long Island, though, so I might die
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BigCheese
Notorious Answer
+14
Agency Recruiter | Coors Knight
3 offers, you savage! Huge congrats!
Justatitle
Politicker
+8
Senior AE
Congrats on the offers and this is the perfect summation of the sales rollercoaster we all ride. 
SADNES5
Politicker
+6
Hittin' Dingers
You guys are turning this place into a Reddit neckbeard fest. Stop with the gatekeeping "Use the search bar" okay, yes. Do that. But why do other get away with posting 💩?

Stop rewarding bad behaviour and downvote low/no effort content. Leave a poop 💩 on the thread and move on. They will click eventually. There is some crazy growth happening on here, and it will continue to happen, as Corp said during the great downvote saga we are here to police our own content. 

https://youtu.be/tlI022aUWQQ


funcoupons
WR Officer
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up in Fiji, under paddy
I think the person who's been posting quality stuff in here for months but posts the odd joke/sarcastic/meme comment/post is (deservedly) more well received than a brand new user who comes in here only to post 100 emojis and worthless polls in a week. 

Kind of like in sales... Prove you can offer value and your sales manager will look the other way when he sees you taking an extra long lunch. If you're in week one on the job you haven't earned the right to slack off yet. 

I don't think people in here are trying to discourage new users from participating. It's just that this community isn't stupid, we know when someone is karma farming or trolling vs making an innocent repost because they haven't figured out the search bar yet. I've seen brand new users come in with some awesome content. They're here for the right reasons...to offer knowledge, help, and learn. 

I'm fine with shaming the people who are here to self promote their stupid LinkedIn page or collect a bunch of prizes and then fuck off, they aren't helping make this community enjoyable or eventually profitable for Bravado. 
southernfriedsales
Opinionated
+8
Senior AE & Business Owner
Yup.
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BigCheese
Notorious Answer
+14
Agency Recruiter | Coors Knight
I said something similar to this the other day, in regards to reposts. Gatekeeping has gotten pretty wild. And bringing old topics back lets new people comment and engage that wouldn't have seen the topic or searched for it had it not been posted again. Yeah, obviously there's a lot of threads that add 0 value, and are overly general and deserve to be "use the search bar"-ed, but there are so many that could be rekindled with new thoughts and opinions that are shot down quickly because someone posted something similar in March when the population was 50% smaller.

There is also just some true shitposting that also deserves to be shot down.
funcoupons
WR Officer
+11
up in Fiji, under paddy
I can see your point of view. I hate seeing reposts of yes/no or off topic questions, because they really didn't add value before and they still won't. I can't stand the movie and music or iPhone vs Android posts at this point. 

But when it comes to more nuanced discussions about opinions and experiences I'm ok with a repost as long as it wasn't asked just last week. 
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popepius
OG Sales Savage
+7
Enterprise Sales Lead
Next thing we know someone will be on here with the handle “reddit_neckbeard”
CuriousFox
WR Officer
+11
Needer of Life Alert
Wouldn't it be great as soon as someone clicks to make their first post if a "warning" pop up with quick points came up?

@BigMeech and @BigCheese both made compelling statements. I try to bring value and cheerlead/celebrate everywhere I can, and in the most meaningful way I can. 
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
"Warning: Have you tried using the search bar? Your post seems familiar, and we want to help"

We all need cheerleaders Curious! Especially in this industry
funcoupons
WR Officer
+11
up in Fiji, under paddy
A ton of excellent points have already been made by other users here. 

Personally I try and use some of my sales conversation skills in threads. Open ended conversations and answers are way more interesting than closed. I like to post things that will hopefully get people thinking. I try and post things that appeal to the greatest number of people possible - not niche topics that only a handful of people will be able to participate in.

I'd also like to think I'm honest and transparent and unafraid to post a dissenting opinion so this place doesn't become an echo chamber where everyone is the same.
WCK
Notorious Answer
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Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
I think niche topics have their use, but their use is obviously to understand the niche not necessarily drive widespread engagement, which is fine. There's a use for specificity, and like you said staying transparent and not being an echo chamber is huge in driving true discussion and engagement.
funcoupons
WR Officer
+11
up in Fiji, under paddy
I'm not totally against niche topics, I just posted one about negotiating a lease today which obviously won't be engaging for everyone, but that's because I want some advice for myself and figured this community could help. But I like to try and keep most topics I post engaging for as many people as possible. 
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poweredbycaffeine
WR Officer
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Bean Juice Drinker | Sales Savant
Hey y'all, sorry I'm late to the party. Spent the evening in the MGH ER...I'm fine now, but damn is my back is PISSED about sleeping in a chair. Long post ahead.

I read the thread last night. There's a lot to unpack, but I agree with many of the points already made by some of the shepherds of the community (thanks for the thoughtful posts @BigMeech@Chep@BigCheese@funcoupons)

I know that I can be a smartass, and sometimes a jerk, in this forum. However, I only do that because we are a young community that needs to set the tone and the voice of who we want to be as we grow. Just like a startup in its infancy, we have to decide now how we want to be perceived in the market when reps have choices about which community they want to be a part of. Do they want to join a community that adds value to their lives while also sprinkling in bits of comedy (especially as we near 5 pm EST on a Friday...looking at you @paddy)? Or, do they want to join a community that focuses on "winning" the leaderboard contests by adding a bunch of bullshit comments and non-value-based posts that are truly not necessary? I'd pick the former, what about you?

Here's how I would propose we, as a community, move forward: act as if you are held responsible for the posts you make, and they'll be used against you during your next big interview. Did you bring value to the table and try to solve the pain and challenges of your fellow War Room members, or did you snicker and waste their time with bullshit? I am guilty of the latter, no doubt, but I am trying to improve for the future so that I can be seen as a pillar of good and not a shitstick of evil.

Ross and Sahil gave us the tools, but we need to use the tools to build something awesome. Get out there and spend time enriching each other's days rather than spending time trying to stack commish so you can get sweet prizes. 
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Sunbunny31
Opinionated
+3
Sales Executive
Your comment and proposal reminded me a lot of the very old message board/forum The Well.   Thoughtful, provocative, helpful posts and posters were rewarded by trust and engagement.   The Well was exclusive in that membership was open to all, but it was a paid platform.  As members, we learned that that there was some level of filtering that happens when there's at least a little skin in the game; users typically regulated themselves.   The difference between The Well and other emerging message boards and forums at that time which didn't have the barrier to entry posed by the annual fee was stark.   It's nice to have a community that isn't saddled with the noise that comes with open access coupled with anonymity.  

My credentials?  I am a new poster here, but have been in the message board/forum space since BBSes in the late 80s (I am totally dating myself now), and actually sold discussion board software many, many years ago.   We built out many communities and supported a number of very large companies with their first toe-dip into what is now known as Social Media.  Keys to great communities are consistent rules of engagement, great content from the contributors, and moderation.   You have to feed and care for your community, or it will wither or take a sideways trip into the usually ugly wild west of the internet.  Speaking for myself, I'm exhausted with the garbage and noise of a lot of online communities these days.   It's hard to deal with the noise from trolls and shitposters and people who just type out whatever impulsive thought that comes out of their disengaged brains.  I don't have time for sites and discussions that are not either entertaining or - as is the case with business-related sites - value to me in my job.   So, I agree with @poweredbycaffeine: am I providing value?  Am I contributing something worthy?  If my VP was reading this, would she start writing a PIP?   If I can't contribute something meaningful and genuine, then maybe I read the posts, click a few arrows, and move on.
poweredbycaffeine
WR Officer
+9
Bean Juice Drinker | Sales Savant
👏 LOVED this response. Valuable content, relevant context, and left me feeling motivated as a member of the community.
Justatitle
Politicker
+8
Senior AE
There is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things. We should definitely ask if the comment we make is going to bring value to the community that’s been built here. I mean let’s be honest we all want to make commish and get free stuff. But this place is and will be special if we can continue to provide valuable insight and build this up as a sales community to support and grow one another’s careers. Rant over love you all
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Authenticity and input that provides value, two key things in any segment of life.
Justatitle
Politicker
+8
Senior AE
Right, it’s so easy to tel when someone is being authentic and if they can provide value you’ll engage. If not then you’re just a LinkedIn influencer, or in marketing 
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Chep
WR Officer
+10
Business Development Team Lead
Thanks for the love @WCK ill keep my advice short and sweet. Post about things you are interested in, try and tell a story (we work in sales this is a key skill to have and drives engagment) and make your posts open ended (unless it’s a specific poll) to encourage others to comment. So essentially treat your posts like you treat sales calls when you get a good conversation going🤣🤝
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Hahaha I love it. Story telling, open ended questions, relatability, it's almost like we do this for a living
Incognito
WR Officer
+11
Master of Disaster
But can we get an “unsubscribe” button for the habitual shitposters?
swizard
Celebrated Contributor
+9
Sales Evangelist
I think there is one universal answer to this thread - SEARCH BAR ✅ I myself have struggled a little at the start with getting my head around the ocean of great discussions about so many topics here. But after getting well acustomed, I think there is a tone of value and discussions with no need of starting new threads - so I slowed down 😅
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Searh bar seems to be severely underutilized, but can be a tad clunky. I just feel like more people can be proactive in using it regardless.
southernfriedsales
Opinionated
+8
Senior AE & Business Owner
Unpopular opinion:

Noticed Sahil went ahead with his idea and let in recruiters… The people posting real talk are simply the folks taking the time to actually see what has been said or asked already. 

Turning into sales Reddit really fast…

Keep it exclusive. You can’t depend on humans as a mass to “look over everything”
funcoupons
WR Officer
+11
up in Fiji, under paddy
Question - what's inherently wrong with letting in recruiters? If they earn commission and carry a quota, they're salespeople. Internal recruiters who don't should not be in here though, I agree.

I find a lot of the dumb threads are coming from people in marketing (not sure how they get in.)
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Siding with you here, sales is sales at the end of the day.
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paddy
WR Officer
+10
Account Executive
Honored to be mentioned here. It should be noted that some people were divinely chosen to lead anonymous chat rooms.
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Fearless leader
BuyersAreLiars
Opinionated
+1
Enterprise Account Executive
"nice!" - lol jk

I think, like any new sales job, it's going to take a little bit of finding your feet on this platform.  


The people you've mentioned above are doing it really well so I'm going to shadow them like I would other AEs when joining a new company. Seeing the value they add is only going to help me and others improve this place in the long run. 

...Sometimes though a shitpost can be fire too. 
The.Machine
Politicker
+6
Sales Development Lead
How not to shitpost - Stop caring about Commish and be a real person even while being anon. 

You have a unique perspective towards everything. Some will be liked by many, some won't be. 

Put it out there and don't be effing generic. I personally see this place as a beautiful community where I can test the strongest of my opinions while being anon. 

It's a gift really. 
Coffeesforclosers
Notable Contributor
+11
Director Sales and Market Development
Thanks for the shout out @WCK. I treat this like the old golden rule "if you dont have someting nice to say dont say anything". I use the caveat if you dont have something of value to say, dont say anything. Love this post and forum, commish whores are real, but hell we all fooled around at some point in our life, hopefully they get their commish and settle down and faithfully marry the platform soon. Lol. 
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Hahaha love the way that was put. We all had that phase in our lives I'm sure!
Ilovethehunt
Opinionated
+3
SDR
Be real
GrindingSales
Opinionated
+5
Account Executive
I make it personal.  What is personal to me in this profession and what things I am going through at work that I wish I had a sales guardian angel looking over me.  I'm glad to say all of my posts are in the true spirit of this platform and I avoid shitposting and commish whore stuff at all costs as well as attend every town hall meeting. 
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
Bing Bang Boom. Absolutely key, make it personal and relatable, as well as AUTHENTIC.
fuzzy
Notable Contributor
+21
CMO (Chief Meme Officer)
what music you listening to fam
WCK
Notorious Answer
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Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
You already know it's that fiyah Bravado War Room playlist by some bum named @fuzzy on Spotify

Check it out:  https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1XvEhBF23F6KRLjcAX3X0Z?si=f09072d7755b4677
SignThis_SalesGirl
Good Citizen
Director of Business Development
Will there be an opportunity to post video messages, questions, etc 
WCK
Notorious Answer
+11
Padre de Tequila, General of the Coors Knights
That's a question more for FAQ's, but I'm sure that is in the pipeline. Technically we can attach videos currently so
Jackywaky
Arsonist
+9
Master of Disaster
Words of wisdom here - this could be some sort of oracle. 
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