saleshoe
I was let go today after hitting 100% quota and 1m+ in sales for 2024. I have a 150k deal closing this month to add to that. How would you react?
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I’ve had almost the exact same thing happen to me. So damn angry, I’d just landed a country first deal ($200K+) in a new segment.
I reacted by asking my boss if he could give me a reference and thanking him for the opportunity to work for him. I used that to approach competitors and other major players in the industry. That was 8 years ago.
It sucked at the time but it’s enabled me to work for over a decade in the industry by building on that reference.
Think and act long term.
I reacted by asking my boss if he could give me a reference and thanking him for the opportunity to work for him. I used that to approach competitors and other major players in the industry. That was 8 years ago.
It sucked at the time but it’s enabled me to work for over a decade in the industry by building on that reference.
Think and act long term.
Great advice. My manager is willing to give me a referral and letter of recommendation.
Wiz-dom. Right here. It’s a long game.
This is the only way. Great advice. It sucks to swallow your pride, but take a breath. Godspeed.
This is the exact way to go about it. Brutal swallowing that pride, but the payback is incredible when done right.
A moment of emotional satisfaction can create years of frustration.
Whereas a moment of calm calculation can set you on an upward trajectory.
A moment of emotional satisfaction can create years of frustration.
Whereas a moment of calm calculation can set you on an upward trajectory.
I’m sorry to hear, that’s brutal. Take some time for yourself as losing a role can traumatic for some
Thanks Konfucius 🙌 I'm moving on and going to be polite about it - I just don't know what to do next. I'm applying for new jobs and diving into the idea of creating my own business so this doesn't happen again but I only have a 6 month runway
Make sure to get screenshots on your performance and that’s stats are on the resume
I do have my quota attainment and commission statement in excel doc and can have my former managae confirm it fortunately 🙌
They let you go because you brought in too many people to help you close deals? That seems anti-productive since they will now how to hold someone else's hand for a several months while they get that person up to speed, and if its complex product or process, nothing may change. There must be another reason.
If you have money on the table they owe you or will owe you shortly, I'd reach out to Dan Goodman on LI. If you do a search here you will find a couple solid reviews of his services and what to expect.
Regarding the non-compete.... if they fired you, its basically non-enforceable. And even if you quit, it would still be hard to enforce it here in the US. I wouldn't worry about it.
If you have money on the table they owe you or will owe you shortly, I'd reach out to Dan Goodman on LI. If you do a search here you will find a couple solid reviews of his services and what to expect.
Regarding the non-compete.... if they fired you, its basically non-enforceable. And even if you quit, it would still be hard to enforce it here in the US. I wouldn't worry about it.
Thank you ⚡️Maybe we should do a Twitter spaces with my former manager. They're going to pay me my commissions for December - 2 weeks after I sign the severance agreement that includes the non-compete.
Im going to connect with Dan now on Li
He’s got 75k followers I’m not sure if he’ll get back to me 😂
He wants to be paid for his services, he’ll get back to you.
Reach out. Do what Dan tells you. Even if you just can’t fucking figure out how his process can possibly work. It works. Hard vouch. Just used him myself.
He’s gonna cost you $900 +15%. Just make sure there’s enough there to make it make sense.
He’s gonna cost you $900 +15%. Just make sure there’s enough there to make it make sense.
@saleshoe ABSOLUTELY give DG a try. Especially with your performance and only 2 weeks severance.
I, unfortunately, only found DG after this exact same thing happened to me. Was told the accounts I had been working on for the last 10 months had never actually been assigned to me. Two weeks later the VP quits after being assigned my workload, and I get a call from the CEO asking for my portal access for the enterprise account that was supposedly not mine because of a large PO being placed. Good guy me couldn’t help but give it to him… damn character and integrity 😂
"damn character and integrity 😂"
Yeah, that shit will cost you.
Yeah, that shit will cost you.
I would reach out to Dan Goodman. I wish I had done so two years ago when I was laid off. Also, under similar circumstances to you.
Dan is a wizard. 🥂
Been laid off 4 times in the past two years. It’s no longer a shock. I need to stop working for broke ass startups.
come to the dark side
Do you have cookies?
Bish I always have cookies. And bbq 🔥
Whats your address specifically
Jump in the pit and try to eat something.
Sorry to hear it. The silver lining here is you have some great accomplishments you can highlight to get a great new opportunity.
Leave a flaming bag of dog shit on your boss’ porch in a few weeks and move on.
Leave a flaming bag of dog shit on your boss’ porch in a few weeks and move on.
WELL THIS IS A LOAD OF BULLSHIT!
Sorry you're going through this, my friend.
Here's my (slightly late) advice:
Day 1: Have a drink and smoke a jay
Day 2: Hit the gym
Day 3: Fix up that resume
Sorry you're going through this, my friend.
Here's my (slightly late) advice:
Day 1: Have a drink and smoke a jay
Day 2: Hit the gym
Day 3: Fix up that resume
That's actually hilarious because I'm on day 3 now and on the same schedule you put together there
Hahaha amazing. It's the winning strategy.
You got blindsided - you need a day or two to feel some shitty shit. But then life goes on.
Keep up the gym, the networking, and the applying.
YOU GOT THIS YOU BEAUTIFUL HOE
You got blindsided - you need a day or two to feel some shitty shit. But then life goes on.
Keep up the gym, the networking, and the applying.
YOU GOT THIS YOU BEAUTIFUL HOE
well. it really depends. I'd probably be shocked/angry/upset. What possibly was the justification, have you been having personality/political issues internally?
No. Internally everything was good. They want to hire “senior” sales people even though I was an enterprise account executive. I brought too many people into my deals too often. And my pipeline for 2025 already has potential to go way out of 1 million with my expansion accounts. And I told my manager he was fat last week. (Last part is not true but wish it was). Not to mention they have a non-compete that says I can’t work with direct competitors for 12 months and solicit business for 18 months. I actually could use some guidance. Worse part is I was saving money to travel abroad for a year and I bought a car instead last month 😂
Only 2 weeks severance pay
Nothing personality or political. The reason they stated was because they wanted to hire senior sales people. Though I was the only one to hit my number out of 3
Check out whether than non compete is valid/enforceable. Some states ban them, and I believe I remember something coming out that maybe the FTC was banning them nationwide? Look into that but you may not need to worry there
I’ve been using gen AI to understand that and they say it’s still enforceable in Florida. And my legal document says I’m liable for the companies legal fees if there’s an issue
Sadly, FL is a state that may just enforce those restrictions. Do you think it will be a huge encumbrance to you getting another job? Are you able to work in other industries, or is your vertical/business very specialized and you might be challenged?
I'm so sorry! How screwed up is this? They're bringing in new people who theoretically won't need any help or support and that's better than a performing rep?
I mean, did you require every company employee to help out with every deal, or is this some trumped up non-sensical bs? I am failing to see how working with you to be more self-sufficient isn't a better path than hiring someone new, if that is, in fact, the reason.
I mean, did you require every company employee to help out with every deal, or is this some trumped up non-sensical bs? I am failing to see how working with you to be more self-sufficient isn't a better path than hiring someone new, if that is, in fact, the reason.
We should just have a public conversation with my former managar on spaces so I can have a better understanding also. It was only my manager I brought into my deals. The second place person only had 450k in sales. However, my one account is going to turn into way over 1 million in new sales in 2025 and I have another account that's going to go ballistic also. Also another person was fired last year from selling a huge deal that was fired so upper management could manage the account also. The company is less than 150 and mostly opereations people
150 employees*
I screwed up by buying a car last month or else I'd be on a flight to Vietnam by now 😂
My previous manager wanted to be part of every deal and I took advantage of it too much.
“I would like to be involved in every deal”.
“Not like that.”
🙄
That’s some bs.
“Not like that.”
🙄
That’s some bs.
This was a huge red flag. This company is not ever going to be fair to reps and I’m thinking they’re setting themselves up to fail.
That’s really frustrating we all feel ya. Doesn’t make much sense were there other factors involved? If so, care to share so we learn from your experience?
Contact Dan Goodman and get your $$$ you wont get your job back but def will get your money
I reached out to his email 🙌 I hope he gets back to me
He will def hit him up via LinkedIn as well
first time, I would be pissed, after 10 years in sales I'm numb. hopefully you are getting paid out on money owed to you though
Sorry to hear this!
I would honestly lose my if those exact details
Happened to me so I’m not sure how you don’t go crazy.
Happened to me so I’m not sure how you don’t go crazy.
Lots of great advice to a really shitty situation. As you plan to, act professionally and secure professional recommendations as quickly as possible as well as collect all metrics and performance data.
I'd look at the non-compete....usually enforceable assuming you sign for / accept the severance - if only offering 2 weeks, then you need to make a decision whether that $ amount is really valuable to you or if worth giving up if meaning you can start knocking on doors in your existing industry (which will be a quicker path to re-employment)...hence get the recommendations now before/if you decline the severance.
If you plan to exit the industry, then I would push for an improved severance (and maybe use the advice of Dan Goodman or others on how to articulate that). With only 2 weeks cushion, they are forcing you to take the quickest path (competitors etc) which you would prefer not to do especially given the current size of your projected pipeline (don't state as much but infer the risk of that pipeline being lost)
Just when you think you've seen it all, something like this happens and reminds you on what's all wrong with the corporate world.
I'd look at the non-compete....usually enforceable assuming you sign for / accept the severance - if only offering 2 weeks, then you need to make a decision whether that $ amount is really valuable to you or if worth giving up if meaning you can start knocking on doors in your existing industry (which will be a quicker path to re-employment)...hence get the recommendations now before/if you decline the severance.
If you plan to exit the industry, then I would push for an improved severance (and maybe use the advice of Dan Goodman or others on how to articulate that). With only 2 weeks cushion, they are forcing you to take the quickest path (competitors etc) which you would prefer not to do especially given the current size of your projected pipeline (don't state as much but infer the risk of that pipeline being lost)
Just when you think you've seen it all, something like this happens and reminds you on what's all wrong with the corporate world.
Stay Professional
Self reflection such as “did I miss target even though I hit quota? Did I violate company policy?”
There’s a lot to unpack here
There’s a lot to unpack here
Pissed. Sucks to hear tha
A lot of comments on here that I haven't replied to but its all good it only took me 3 days to get over the natural anger. Feeling good now and looking forward to the next adventure. Thanks to everybody for making this post fun and comical along the way
It happened to me. I then just helped the company secure a deal leading to a 3M USD cascade of deals. Two sales leaders in the company hated each other, and I was stuck in between. One of them wanted to do something under the shadow, and I was working with transparency, so he didn´t like that.
He waited until I helped them secure that Whale kind of a deal and let me go right before my probation is over. I was the scapegoat because he was afraid the org would let go of him himself, because, frankly, he was doing a horrible job.
He knows he made a mistake and he knows what he did.
I was so mad and I am still, I literally cursed him because he put me as the politics scapegoat, and I have never stood against anyone in the org.
My advice - always make sure you get that deal closed and your commissions in. Try to negotiate with your manager.
If it´s a lot of money, fight for it.
If it’s not, then move on. Life is too short to work for loser companies, and worst for poor leaders.
He waited until I helped them secure that Whale kind of a deal and let me go right before my probation is over. I was the scapegoat because he was afraid the org would let go of him himself, because, frankly, he was doing a horrible job.
He knows he made a mistake and he knows what he did.
I was so mad and I am still, I literally cursed him because he put me as the politics scapegoat, and I have never stood against anyone in the org.
My advice - always make sure you get that deal closed and your commissions in. Try to negotiate with your manager.
If it´s a lot of money, fight for it.
If it’s not, then move on. Life is too short to work for loser companies, and worst for poor leaders.
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