Is there any hope for the future of sales management?

Newbie in the war room but grizzled sales vet from the tech sector here. Wanted to post this as it has been on my mind for a long time.


Having worked in the software startup space for the past decade or so, I’m seeing increasing adoption of the same shit management/sales process and comp tactics over and over and over again.


Lots of “failing upwards” by mediocre or straight up terrible managers and top leadership for simply being at the right place at the right time and getting to an exit, only to parlay that to a title promotion at another startup where they can regurgitate the same tactics and processes that drove the field nuts at their last company.


is there any great sales leadership out there? Because to me I see a lot of kissing the ring, managing up, and overassigning quotas and oversaturating territories to pad management paydays at the expense of the field.


People don’t buy like it’s EMC in 1997 anymore...is there any hope for the industry as the old guard age out and is there room for a new crop of people to change the industry or are we forever going to be chained to out of touch yes-managers who don’t have a new thought in their heads?


tl:dr—will good reps have the chance to change the way sales is approached at leadership level and take a bottom up instead of top down approach or are we doomed to keep getting washed around from shitty culture to shittier culture?

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Chep
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Bitcoin Adoption Specialist
The short of it Yes. I think the companies that grow in the future will be the ones willing to make changes and hire sales managers that have A. done the S.D.R role and B. are willing to try different things until they see results
Salespreuner
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Regional Sales Director
You're so very right here. The A B plan put is ✅🔥
Indakitchenwhippin
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Channel Sales
I think a key  thing to note here is having been an SDR. SDR/BDR or whatever the hell else you want to call it is a relatively new position and title that is based on pure grit and grind. Lots of AEs and Management have never had to do the work that SDRs have to do and it shows.
Lumbergh
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Sr Account Exec
Don't take this the wrong way, but even if the title is "newer", this has been around FOREVER and I can almost guarantee you most people in a sales position had to start there or somewhere similar or still has to do it as part of their job.

We called it inside sales way back in the day, but it's called pipeline generation and I absolutely started my career banging phones and still am expected to prospect and generate my own pipeline today.
Indakitchenwhippin
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Channel Sales
Not taken wrong at all, you would know better than me of course, meant no offense to AEs, yall are obviously out there grinding with us.

I just think some AEs/Management don't really know what we do.  I've had AEs explicitly ask "what do you do again?" and even had a VP quip once that he doesn't really understand what we do as he never had to do it but knew it was a grind.
Lumbergh
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Sr Account Exec
If a VP says he doesn't even know what an SDR/BDR does he doesn't deserve the job
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