Is this sketchy?

So for the last two weeks I've been interviewing at a company that I would truly love to work for. I somehow managed to finagle my way around an auto-generated rejection email and interview with the hiring manager, let's call him Big T. Big T is a self-proclaimed hard ass. He started the interview with his webcam on then about halfway through the interview he shut it off without mentioning anything.


The role is for an SDR position, he had me pitch the product to him on the spot with no preparation. I pitched it to him as I had done my research on the company and product and felt like it went well for getting put on the spot. We bullshitted for a while and I felt like despite him being a hardass I was able to build solid rapport. He said he loved my energy, I sold him on myself, and he felt fired up after talking to me.


He put me through to the next round with a second hiring manager, let's call him Medium-sized D. Medium-sized D was a great guy. He said it was a yes for him and he passed me along to what I was told would be the final round.


The final round was with the WW director of sales, Papa J. Papa J was a straight shooter. I told him about myself why I want to work at the company my thoughts on the product, etc. Again I felt like I built solid rapport with the guy. The interview went longer than scheduled, he was engaged, etc. The conversation ended up turning friendly at the end, he offered to give me career/mentorship advise.


About mid-way through the interview, he said Big-T had some questions about my energy. This threw me off because I was under the impression my interview with Big-T went extremely well. I recall Big-T saying I had sold him on my story and made him believe I was a great candidate for the role.


Papa J said Big-T would reach out to him on my personal cell so I could address the energy concern. Then Papa J said I would need to interview with his director as a final step, which was never laid out to me in my first two interviews.


Papa J made it seem like my call with Big-T would be outside of zoom on my personal cell. Seems sketchy right?


I'm jaded from a previous interview that was supposed to go 3 rounds and got extended to 5. I feel like I getting put through the wringer again. Especially after asking multiple times for them to lay out the interview process and next steps for me. I want to take control of the situation. Should I email talent and ask them to lay out the remaining steps for me this would be going behind the sales manager's backs. Or should I reach out directly to Big-T to address the concerns?


I really want this job.

๐Ÿ‘ฅ Hiring
๐Ÿ—ฃ Interviewing
9
TennisandSales
Politicker
4
Head Of Sales
If I was you, I would take the call with Big-T, feel it out. Then at the end of the call, close hard. and by that i mean say something like
"Big - T, I have really enjoyed our conversations and I am excited about this opportunity. I am getting the sense that you feel the same way, or am I wrong?"

"no you are right"

"Great, so help me understand what has to happen next? I am happy to take another call if thats what it takes for everyone to feel as excited as I do, is that needed? can you help me understand exactly what else has to happen?"
Sunbunny31
Politicker
1
Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
This is what I recommend too. Not sketchy to have on the cell - maybe Big T isn't a zoom fan. I know my SVP is more of a mobile guy too.

Sounds exasperating, but think of all the sales cycles that can go wrong or not as planned, usually right when you're at the finish line. Don't give up yet.
Diablo
Politicker
2
Sr. AE
I would also reach out to Big-T rather than reaching out to talent because they would do the same. I have never seen so many rounds and its like a patience test.

All the best !
jefe
Arsonist
1
๐Ÿ
Seems a little strange, maybe, but I wouldn't say sketchy.

I agree with @TennisandSales- take the call, feel it out, and close him if you don't think it's sketch.

Good luck!
Pachacuti
Politicker
1
They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
First off, congrats on not letting the initial auto-reject letter deter you. 99% of people would have moved on.

You should have (if you didn't) brought this up when Papa J brought up the energy concern. His objection could have been a tactic to see how you respond or it could be legit - I don't know. But I do know I would have attacked it head on.

Its not too late. If you have their emails, I would craft an email to both of them attacking this issue head on - highlight how you didn't let the auto-reject email deter you and 2-3 other bullet points to round it out. I would finalize it with a request to talk to both of them (if possible). Don't write a novel though - keep it concise and to the point.

You have nothing to lose at this point by going this route.

Good luck!
Arzola
Valued Contributor
1
Business administration
Iยดm agree
Juancallclose
Catalyst
0
Director
I'd reach out to Big T. Senior leaders like initiative. I will also say though, interviewers are liars. I had a start up that apparently liked me so much that "they stopped all interviews." CEO was a yes, CPO a yes, an investor was a yes. But at the end, I didn't get the job.
CKamapguy
Fire Starter
0
Sales Director
You are probably reading too much into things. I did 15 interviews. If you want the job 5 is fine. Play the game. I talk to folks by cell all the time. I also turn off my cameras. Just keep the commo open and make sure they know you are interested and waiting to start.
WhoDey
Opinionated
0
VP of Sales
If you really want the job, don't do anything to sabotage your chances. Take the call and crush it. Be thankful that Papa J told you exactly what Big-T is concerned about (your level of energy)...now you know exactly what you need to address. It sounds like they are setting you up for success. Don't blow it. Good luck!
8

Is it sketchy when a recruiter won't tell you the name of the company they're recruiting for?

Question
8
10

Completing some kind of recruiting project is normal but this feels like slight exploitation?

Question
15
12

Normal or sketch?

Question
22