What are the main reasons you would decide to start looking elsewhere?
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Main reasons you would leave a company?
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Bad leadership.
So true
This.
^
100% agree. Bad leadership just kind of makes everything else stale.
Yeah, I guess it depends on the benefits. I mean, Bad leadership can always be improved, UNLESS its coming all the way from the top in that case I would def leave.
I'd have to politely disagree there. In my experience it doesn't matter how much free lunch and unlimited PTO you get, a shitty boss makes life miserable for everyone.
Yeah, I guess. I've never stayed long at places with bad leadership if I'm entirely honest. I've worked in contact centers where one bad team leader can be easily swapped for a good one by simply requesting it. So it just depends on each case I guess.
It always starts at the top.
Yessss!
It is Leadership. All the reasons below fall under it:
-Failing product/ not fitting the market,
-Toxic environment,
-Too much nepotism (there's always some),
-Shit comp. plan,
-A Jerry Krause Sales Manager vs. Phil Jackson (realistically 85% of -managers are Krauses - Phil's prototype is a rare breed)
-Disdain for the sales team in the co.,
-Lack of resources, or too much RED-tape to get 'em,
-Bad team dynamics
"A fish rots from the head"
-Failing product/ not fitting the market,
-Toxic environment,
-Too much nepotism (there's always some),
-Shit comp. plan,
-A Jerry Krause Sales Manager vs. Phil Jackson (realistically 85% of -managers are Krauses - Phil's prototype is a rare breed)
-Disdain for the sales team in the co.,
-Lack of resources, or too much RED-tape to get 'em,
-Bad team dynamics
"A fish rots from the head"
100%, I’ve left everytime.
1) Fucked on compensation/unreasonable quotas 2) Bad leadership 3) Toxic work environment 4) Micromanagement
Micromanagement is a good one for sure
100% agree.
2 should go first; 1, 3 and 4 are effects of bad leadership.
It was more of a stream of consciousness type thing but yeah, largely agree.
I follow that thought 100%
Bad/little communication
Toxic environment
Internal red tape aka too difficult to do my job
Lack of support
Oh and money
Toxic environment
Internal red tape aka too difficult to do my job
Lack of support
Oh and money
If it ever moves away from being a meritocracy. I don't like working some place where "everyone is a winner"
Love that one
You've worked places that are actual meritocracies? Tell me what that's like.
They mess with my money. If you tell me my comp plan is one thing and then try to pull the wool over my eyes with a "oh well we weren't expecting you to close this much" or a "well yeah, we raised your quota but never told you" you can kiss my ass goodbye.
I had an annual project that I broke the company record on one year. The next year they took it away from my office and gave it to a national delivery team. When I asked how I was going to be compensated for the 5 figures in commission I just lost, I got crickets.
Don’t forget to send ask that biz to a competitor for some referral bonuses too
Been there during covid. It's this much and said it was annual. 2nd quarter comes and they say oh its this much for fy21. First time not going to presidents club fuckers
"Changing commission structure" AKA, capping commissions
I’ve never had this happen. Hopefully it never does
Bored.
Agreed
bad leadership, horrible comp plan, product I'm selling isn't a market fit.
Product-market fit is absolutely huge
It almost always comes down to leadership, either direct level or executive leadership.
Yes
Bad management
Agreed
1. No Future or opportunity for growth. And not learning that much anymore
2. Change in Pay
3. Culture
4. a Better option came up
5. Lost motivation to do the job and I need something new to challenge me
2. Change in Pay
3. Culture
4. a Better option came up
5. Lost motivation to do the job and I need something new to challenge me
Toxic Sales Culture is number one for me. You can work your way through just about anything else. I'd add making under 6 figures to the list as well.
Bad leadership, negative change to comp, toxic culture, feeling that I've learned all I can and ready for a new challenge
No clear path to progress. If my leaders can not sit with me and talk about how I can get promoted or at least have a path to do so- see ya
Lack of defined product mission or concrete market fit. If you have to pivot numerous times to find your market fit, you probably don't have one.
Lack of transparency from leadership.
1.Bad leadership. 2. Product/service is falling way behind 3. Quota/earnings are no longer up to expectations
Honestly, compensation, benefits and life balance. Just like sales, instead of Always Be Closing... Always be passively looking.
You don't align with the executives or managers. No matter how good the product is or how well if the company is doing. If you hate who you work for its impossible to grow, learn, and develop
HR policies and leadership attitude. Not to mention, unkept promises.
when i start to feel like my manager is bsing me and smilefucking me when I bring up my concerns is typically when I think it's time to leave. this is usually surrounded by, bad management, no clear promotional path, no support, and low morale
If Marketing doesn’t let me add slides to the pitch deck. Sorry Trevor, I didn’t know that Twitter is just on the free plan. Christ.
in all seriousness it probably comes down to whether or not the company treats me like an actual human being.
Also a really toxic boss will make you want to nosedive into concrete.
in all seriousness it probably comes down to whether or not the company treats me like an actual human being.
Also a really toxic boss will make you want to nosedive into concrete.
Hahaha, this! I work for a LARGE fortune 500 company and everything has to go through 1000 people. I told them recently give me blank sheets of paper and a box of crayons and I will make my own slides and present them since the ones they provide are shit or non-existent.
Failing product/ not fitting the market,
Internal red tape aka too difficult to do my job
Front line management
Failure to attribute data and science to change either + or -
Worked with a couple start ups in the past few roles, and it had to be a shift in company strategy from Ownership.
A territory that doesn't have enough quality accounts to hit the quota you've been given.
Recently went from an uncapped commission to a capped commission.
Read the answers... people do not quit a job, they quit a boss.
I have always read in surveys that "money" was rarely even in the top ten reasons why employees leave a company. And I always called "BS". As someone that has always eaten what I killed, even as a business owner, I could not imagine money not being at the top.
HOWEVER... I now totally understand what being unappreciated means and can 100% guarantee that those surveys were accurate.
People do not leave a company, they leave a "leader".
I have always read in surveys that "money" was rarely even in the top ten reasons why employees leave a company. And I always called "BS". As someone that has always eaten what I killed, even as a business owner, I could not imagine money not being at the top.
HOWEVER... I now totally understand what being unappreciated means and can 100% guarantee that those surveys were accurate.
People do not leave a company, they leave a "leader".
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