Captain_Q

Sr. Account Executive

Mullet over and let me know

I have been with my company for four years and I absolutely love it here. They are firm believers in letting their reps "run their own business." This essentially means that if you are hitting your number, we don't care how you get it done. I have always been 1 or 2 at end of each month and have NEVER missed my quarter number.

Like many others, I was not able to get my hair cut for many months during the initial "Rona" outbreak. Up until now, I have always kept my hair high and tight with the hard part but after seeing what a beautiful mane of hair I have, I decided to cut it into a glorious mullet. I get it trimmed twice a month and keep it looking fresh.

My leadership team thinks it looks unprofessional and wants me to cut it. I think it's some total BS.

Thoughts?

Should leadership have a say in your hair style?

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No Yes Bruh, grow up and trim that shit.

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BigCheese

Notorious Answer

18

Agency Recruiter

A mullet oozes confidence. If someone trying to sell to me has a mullet, I know that they're the real deal. Keep pumpin those numbers and conditioning that mane.

Captain_Q

Arsonist

2

Sr. Account Executive

That's what I'm sayin! Thanks @BigCheese

CastleIsland

Tycoon

3

Associate Account Director

Man, I agree with that @BigCheeseand@Captain_QIf you are a top performer, like to hang loose, and have hater-blocking confidence, then who cares if you have a mullet? It's not the Marines bro!

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

and that's why you're the BOOM Sauce!

bellaccione

Valued Contributor

3

Growth Consultant

it's not the Marines because

THIS
IS
SPARTA
(bitch)

...and I'm pretty sure top Spartans were rewarded with a) martyrdom and b) mullets as part of their incentive system for heroic acts

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

LOL, that sounds right!

Salespreuner

Big Shot

2

Regional Sales Director

+1 here

HarryCaray

Notable Contributor

4

HMFIC

tough call, but your post title made me laugh. Love a good pun.

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

LOL...ahhh thank you:)

Bittersweet0326

Politicker

4

Digital Business Associate

As long as you are producing who cares. Tell them to show you the statistics around mullet length correlating to decrease in sales.

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

We do love our analytics! lol

Bittersweet0326

Politicker

1

Digital Business Associate

I mean I think it’d work lol

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

I mean it gets me laid at least once a month, so there's that.

Bittersweet0326

Politicker

0

Digital Business Associate

What else matters???

TommyCallahanIV

Good Citizen

3

Mid-Market Sales Manager

BARBERous of them to ask you to cut it. Puns ftw

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

YASS!!

BulkPony

Tycoon

3

Enterprise Account Executive

I had a mullet for several months and my only regret about the mullet is cutting it. Keep it for as long as you can and let it ride.

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

That's what I'm talkin' 'Bout! Respect, @ChiDawg

rharris415

Contributor

3

Founder

Welcome to discrimination.

Sincerely,

Women, Black Women, Asian, LGBTQ, BIPOC,

On the flip side, you are always a free agent.

You can easily find another sales job.

It's ok to remind them of that in an appropriate non-cocky way, especially if you are hitting numbers.

Here's how (some are not quite PC) but then again, I've never been known for that. Use with caution. I would never want someone to leave a job for any reason. We need money to live, we need healthcare, we have responsibilities. That doesn't mean you cannot find a culture that works for you.

1. Thanks for your suggestions. I am confused, have my clients complained about it?

2. Which part of my hair is actually preventing me from doing my job?

3. Who exactly is complaining, and specifically, word for word what are they saying?

4. I just read the employee handbook, I don't see anything in there.

5. What other things are you telling other people about their appearance that needs to change.

6. Can you please show me the "dress-code" document?

7. Even if the dress-code says, "professional" there is no clear cut definition of what that actually means. So if you could please explain and by all means be sure you include every type of employee you may want to hire.

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

So, I'll start by saying that I really love the in-depth feedback and greatly appreciate it! I will say though, that it might be a bit of a reach comparing this situation to those groups, also BIPOC? I feel silly for not knowing.....?

ZebraStripe

Opinionated

1

Sr Sales Director

Black Indigenous People of Color

Coffeesforclosers

Notable Contributor

2

Director Sales and Market Development

Not ok if it is kept up and trim. An unprofessional unkempt mane you call it a mullet, still a no.

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

I'm not sure I'm following here. At first, it sounds like you're saying as long as it's clean and kept up it's ok. Then it sounds like you're saying that any long hair that is unkept is considered a mullet. Can you clafiy?

Coffeesforclosers

Notable Contributor

1

Director Sales and Market Development

im a no either way as that is not really their call, unless it is part of the JD you signed. But you stated you have it nice and trimmed just happens to be a mullet. Where i went in the second half is if it is truly unruly and not kept up and you are customer facing, maybe (still a maybe) they have a point if outlined in contract. Its conflicting for me so i am spinning and not answering, sorry. But i think it is a no either way

Coffeesforclosers

Notable Contributor

1

Director Sales and Market Development

can we get a photo for context??????

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

LOL, can you post pictures on here? If so, then hell yeah! I'll have my barber get a good one when I'm in the chair this Friday:)

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

It might be in the contract but who reads those. All I know is that I account for 30+% of our annual growth and I always deliver. that should be enough. It's not like I'm walking around all stinky and greasy with dirty tattered clothes.

Coffeesforclosers

Notable Contributor

1

Director Sales and Market Development

I see some posts with a clipart/photo so must be a way. Get it!

Coffeesforclosers

Notable Contributor

1

Director Sales and Market Development

I agree with you there is a line and its imaginary until the mullet crosses or touches said line lol

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

So, in this case, the line is my shirt collar. LOL

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

Done and Done, stand by!

Coffeesforclosers

Notable Contributor

0

Director Sales and Market Development

ha

supersoph

2

RevOps

I cannot stand when leadership gets involved in looks. It reminds me of when I was a 'kid' and my parents told me I would be unhireable if I got a tattoo. Errmmm I don't want to work somewhere that judges my worth on how I look, it's not like I am Post Malone. Jeshush

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

First off, love this and agree. Second, Post Malone is awesome!

DonDraper

Politicker

2

National Sales Manager

I think you only have to look at the PGA tour - fellow Australian Cameron Smith is rocking one of the best Mullets going around and guess what he just WON! I am all for Keep in my books.

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

I have been working on my short game! lol

GlenRoss

Politicker

2

Account Executive

I ran into a similar issue. I was wearing trucker hats and t-shirts on calls with long hair and got told to clean it up. I still have long hair just no more hats but I try to keep it cleaner and pulled back. I still get comments but nothing commanding as long as I stay on top of the leaderboard

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

Trucker hats and Ts, love this! What do you sell?

Telehealth_2the_Moon

Notable Contributor

1

Director of Business Development

I'm a dude with some long hair, but yeah the mullet is a serious move. I think it's personally awesome, but I could see it ruffle feathers internally and externally.

I guess it comes down to your customers and if it effects them. If you tend to sell into places where that is considered fun it can be a great way to start a convo and stay in their mind. Every email you send will, in their mind, be from "that guy with the mullet!".

On the other hand, if it's gonna make things harder on you then you probably should consider if it's worth it. Would you be willing to be 3-4 each quarter for your hair? Not a rhetorical question, but if customer balk then it's something to consider.

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

Ooof @Telehealth_2the_Moon You make a good point. It hasn't come to the point where it has affected my ability to forge relationships with customers. You're right though, if it was between the mullet and losing sales, get out the clippers! lol. Appreciate the feedback:)

Telehealth_2the_Moon

Notable Contributor

1

Director of Business Development

I hope it never does, I want you to keep crushing it, leave them chasing behind your mullet.

Just comes down to your customers? On average will more people like it than dislike it or are you selling to a bunch of stogey people that spend the first 5 minutes of the meeting eyeing each other's suits to see who went custom and who bought off the rack?

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

I'd say, on the whole, more people will like it!

Telehealth_2the_Moon

Notable Contributor

0

Director of Business Development

Fuck it then. Tell your bosses you'll cut it if you don't finish top 3.

funcoupons

WR Officer

1

👑

Do you really want to be known as the "sales guy with a mullet" to your clients? I mean...I guess if you're selling to hair stylists or fashion designers where mullets might be considered cool, but in most industries most people are either going to think it's unprofessional, stupid looking, or reduce you to a caricature of mullet guy.

Coffeesforclosers

Notable Contributor

1

Director Sales and Market Development

Talking point for sure, if it garners response and opens a door and is a differentiator i would do it. My hair wont grow like that so i have to live vicariously through him right now lol

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

It's definitely more of a conversation starter than anything. My customers know be as the guy that came in and actually took the time to listen to their needs and delivered them the best VoIP solution in the market:)

ARRisLife

Politicker

1

Account Executive

Wow hahaha.. Bold Move.

Personally I love it and I love it even more that you're just crushing quotas and owning it like a mofo.

I cannnnn see how it would ruffle some feathers, and it's certainly a gray area, should leadership have say in looks? No, probably not... buttt where is the line? I don't even know myself but I can see how people would be like okayyyy ummm..

Also- as others mentioned I think it depends too on who you're selling to- can it be funny and appreciated by your audience or do they double take and not take you seriously? Sounds like it hasn't had any impact yet but just some thoughts to consider.

I wish I had the confidence to rock it but I definitely could not pull it off- hats off to you! haha

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

Appreciate the feedback and support:)

Incognito

WR Officer

1

Master of Disaster

I think that if you’re making money, no one has any right to tell you jack.

the question should be whether your clients care. TBH - I think being different can actually work in your favor because you’re memorable .

also, I would fukkin love to rock one but my book of business isn’t big enough yet for the party in the back :(

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

Keep grinding Bruh, you'll get there!

Ace

Arsonist

1

CEO

Does this still happen? Maybe in schools but at work?

Incognito

WR Officer

0

Master of Disaster

@Ace well, I have basically my whole body tattooed so I'm definitely under scrutiny for appearance. Always long sleeves. Always buttoned up. Understated dress code.

If the client would like that kind of thing, I can always roll up the sleeves on my shirt. I mean, I have a lot of skulls and things on my forearms/wrists. My whole back is a giant skull haha.

Just gotta read the room. But my corporate doesn't want to see it ever.

Ace

Arsonist

1

CEO

Yeah there are a lot of professions that don't favor tattoos so I get you

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

I was thinking about getting a forearm tat this summer, prob not the best move. lol

Ace

Arsonist

0

CEO

Well as long as you can conceal it haha

Incognito

WR Officer

0

Master of Disaster

@Captain_Q I don’t think it’s a bad idea - just know that you will probably have to wear long sleeves in certain situations. Would you really wear a T-shirt to a meeting anyway?

You also get to a point in your career where it doesn’t matter anymore. Like my last one. I ligit worked with Mitt Romney and he didn’t bat an eyelash at all the extensive demonic/ slightly pornographic tats because my professional reputation was solid af. One of many extremely conservative clients I had, and it was fine.

RampagingDog

Politicker

1

Recruitment Consultant

Rock that mullet. If it isn't affecting your numbers and the clients don't care enough to not do business with you, then it shouldn't matter.

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

And that's why you RAMPAGE!

MassholeMovesWest

WR Officer

1

Account Executive

Next thing you know they're gonna tell you to stop jumping onto conference room tables @Captain_Q #Mafia

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

@MassholeMovesWest NEVER! #JOSHALLEN #CIRCLETHEWAGONS!

CaneWolf

Politicker

1

Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract

I think you can keep long hair professional. I do not think that you can keep a mullet professional.

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

@CaneWolf Stand by for the picture update tomorrow:)

CaneWolf

Politicker

0

Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract

I would upvote this forty times if I could.

bellaccione

Valued Contributor

1

Growth Consultant

nah brah, you straight

this is a hard affirmative on the mullet because

mullet is where it be at (esp. in Alabama and West Virginia - are you selling in one of these locations?)

as you can tell, I enjoy saying the word mullet

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

Not from that area but my dog is a Mountain Curr, from the Appalachian trail!

bellaccione

Valued Contributor

0

Growth Consultant

i was mainly kidding lolololololol
my entire post was bare jokes and potentially plant-medicine-influenced

JJASBE

Catalyst

1

Director, Solutions Sales

I'm not ever a fan of nebulous definitions of 'professional.' In most cases, the term is loaded and reeks of assimilation toward the majority norms....

Captain_Q

Arsonist

1

Sr. Account Executive

I just love your use of nebulous and for that, we thank you!

JJASBE

Catalyst

0

Director, Solutions Sales

LOL! Appreciate you :)

CuriousFox

WR Officer

0

🦊

Dude. Clean it up so you don't look disheveled.

Captain_Q

Arsonist

3

Sr. Account Executive

LOL, who said I looked discheleved? It's not like Joe Dirt style. I get it trimmed every other week, condition and style it every day. Has some nice curls and flow to it.

CuriousFox

WR Officer

0

🦊

HA! Love it 🤣

curd

Opinionated

0

AD

Tell them you'll cut it for a raise ayyy

Captain_Q

Arsonist

0

Sr. Account Executive

Not even about the money. I'm well compensated. It's a matter of principle! lol

Havok99

Big Shot

0

Senior Account Executive

You sell bbq’s right? Do your thing guy!

BillLumbergh

Good Citizen

0

Vice President of Sales

Hit your number, keep that mullet clean and it's fine with me.

Adslanger1

Opinionated

0

Senior Account Executive

I was born with a mullet

Brando

Politicker

0

Account Executive

Is it so unprofessional that it's affecting your numbers? If not, who cares!

There's a lot of highly respected people in many fields that had different hairstyles.

FiresideChads

Good Citizen

0

Account Executive

Just send them the new John Oliver clip and say it's offensive to your identity. I can't stand those that make petty comments like that. If someone tells you how to have you hair, I bet you 10 times out of 10 they have their own problems/secrets they should think about.

JuicyKlay

Celebrated Contributor

0

AM

What exactly did your leadership say about the mullet?

TheLaughingWolf

WR Officer

0

Business Development Manager

You must satisfy the Mullet Gods and provide a pic of this epic mane.

WomenWantMeFishFearMe

Politicker

0

AM

I actually grew a mullet too during Chinavirus. My bosses loved it. Thought it was great considering my upkeep of it. I'd suggest you direct them to the economist article that came out last year that stated business mullets are the new trend. If they still won't accept it, tell them to piss off.

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