My chat with Dan

TLDR - If you want to work with Dan - read it. If not, don't (just give this an upvote for effort).


There's been some talk about Dan Goodman here. He's all over LinkedIn and posts 1-2x per day (https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-goodman2001/ ) about his Employment Advisory services.


I recently parted ways with my previous employer (not amicably) and while I did not have commission owed to me, I did have some issues with how I was financially treated while there and my severance package which had financial implications.


I went to his website, clicked on the "Get Started" button, and went through a small questionnaire. I paid for the 15min consult and scheduled a date to speak with him about a week out.


He was a couple mins late to our meeting (and looked like he just rolled out of bed), but made up for it on the back end. We discussed my situation and then he outlined his Process. He charges $1050 flat fee initially and this gets you access to:

  • His 10-part framework
  • Video of him detailing his 10-part framework
  • Examples & sample language for me to use in doing my write up according to his 10-part framework which I put into a 1st Draft
  • I submit my 1st Draft and he has a Consultant reach out to me to discuss it and help me develop a 2nd Draft
  • Dan then comes into the picture and helps redline the 2nd Draft into a final draft to submit to my previous employer, including an Executive Summary ("with moving, impactful language" = scare tactics)
  • He then helps to submit it
  • He's there to help with Negotiation and other hand holding aspects along the way because they also charge 15% of the Gross Settlement (this is hard to quantify, more in a bit)


There's a couple things I learned -

(1) he's not an attorney and doesn't pretend to be one.

(2) a lot of what he can do is reliant upon Employment Agreements, Compensation Agreement, and other paperwork you may have filled out/dealt with (note for the future - forward copies of all my paperwork to my personal email for safe keeping)


Regarding the Gross Settlement aspect, i have some very solid numbers which I feel I'm entitled to. He said they would only charge the 15% for what they could help me get on top of that. So I don't know what they really means in the end.


I'm not sure if I'm going to move forward or not. It seems to me that a lot of his "10-part Framework" is strong language about how I will rake the company through the muck, go public with how they treated me, publicly disparage them, threats about how the company's reputation will be hurt, etc. And it seems many of his clients get a settlement before having to go that far.


This was definitely educational for me. I wish I had access to him 10-15 years ago. If my company had screwed me out of actual commissions, I would definitely be working with him and I would highly recommend him if that is your case because while he's not an attorney (which may be a good thing) he's definitely a guy with experience who's leveraging it to help others while making a buck for himself.


I hope this write up helps you all.




https://www.dangoodmanea.com/ Dan Goodman Employment Advisory Specializing in severance, employment agreements, negotiation, PIPs, performance improvement plants, stock grants, compensation plans, sales commissions, and advocacy. We offer expertise in toxic workplace situations, non-compete clauses, and restrictive agreements.
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Justatitle
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This is basically what I had expected reading his previous work and such. I also don't think what he charges is insane considering what you would be potentially leaving on the table in most cases. sounds solid. the fact he isn't a lawyer means you don't have to pay $300-$600 per hour and get nothing...
saaskicker
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Thank you for sharing. This is one of the more impactful posts on this forum in a while. Have seen all his posts, good to know a bit about how the sausage is made. Best of luck in your negotiation.
Revenue_Rambo
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How much was the 15-Minute consult?
Pachacuti
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$100.
Revenue_Rambo
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That's not terrible.
Kosta_Konfucius
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Would you need to hire an actual attorney still though? So this 15% is for what? Do you not need an attorney in most cases?
Pachacuti
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That was the vague area I wasnโ€™t too sure about and didnโ€™t explore too deeply.
Heโ€™s not an attorney but sometimes refer people to attorneys. Results are mixed. I think he relies on the initial strong language in his Process.
jefe
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Super interesting read, I think we've all been curious about this. Thanks for sharing Pach!

Like @Revenue_Rambo , I was also curious about the cost of that initial consult. Glad you replied.

Also, for some reason I'd be inclined to trust him on that 15% thing... define the expectation and then take a cut of the increase.
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fire advice
Gasty
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Thanks for letting us know about this process in detail. I am sure it helps out many of us in knowing more about the options people have.

Best of luck for your settlement.
punishedlad
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Really good information to have, thank you for posting your experience @Pachacuti
TennisandSales
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love this! he is talked about alot hopefully this will help make it easier for ppl to know if they should reach out to him or not.
ChumpChange
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Do you think his services are worth the price?
Pachacuti
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It depends on your need.

Heโ€™s not a lawyer and just relies on strongly worded letters (emails).

He can refer you to lawyers but itโ€™s 50/50 if they can help you if his letters donโ€™t help you.

IMO if you can legit back up what a company owes you then heโ€™s cheaper than a lawyer.
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