VineMic

Account Executive

Need helping find organizations that would allow unvaxxed sales reps

Hey Bravado War Room Members,

Unfortunately I'm coming to a weird point where my organization will be enforcing a vaccination policy as we return to the office in the new year. There's no options for continuing to work remote full-time and I will be on the lookout for new roles.

Does anyone know which companies will allow their sales reps to forgo being vaccinated in order to sell for them?

I don't want to turn this into a pro vs. anti vaxx discussion, my personal belief is everyone has choice as to what they put in their body and I'm not advocating for or against it (this is your choice...)

Please let me know which organizations will not mandate employees to be vaccinated to sell for them, ideally within tech (SaaS preferably).

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DealDonkey

Acclaimed Answer

Director of Business

Heaven is always open.

poweredbycaffeine

WR Lieutenant

☕️

THIS IS GOLD

hh456

Celebrated Contributor

sales

so is Hell, if you're into that kind of thing

1nbatopshotfan

Politicker

Sales

I think that you’re out of luck, personally. It seems that all mechanisms for risk reduction point towards mandatory vaccines for being in person.

Your best bet will be to find a recruiter to find you a 100% remote job, with no travel requirements.

VineMic

Executive

Account Executive

Agreed @1nbatopshotfan looking like a 100% remote role maybe the only option. Thanks for the feedback

1nbatopshotfan

Politicker

Sales

And personally, sales person to sales person, I must say, get the vaccine. There’s really know scientific reason not to.

Beans

Big Shot

Enterprise Account Executive

Good luck.

Forward thinking tech companies are going to be a hard sell on non-vaxxers.

CuriousFox

WR Officer

🦊

I don't disagree.

InQ5WeTrust

Arsonist

No marketing, mayo isn't an MQL

Looking forward to when they start mandating specific shots. Pfizer gang vs moderna mob.

1nbatopshotfan

Politicker

Sales

Ummm, it’s the Pfizer pFellows, not Pfizer gang.

InQ5WeTrust

Arsonist

No marketing, mayo isn't an MQL

Pfizer Possum is a better superhero.

1nbatopshotfan

Politicker

Sales

Spoken like a true Moderna Monster. Sad.

InQ5WeTrust

Arsonist

No marketing, mayo isn't an MQL

Bro i'm a Pfizer Possum, possums are lit! What are you part of Big Lime Disease or something? Beholden to the Tick consultants of K Street?

1nbatopshotfan

Politicker

Sales

Shhhhh don’t out me! I’m a pawn of big tick!

InQ5WeTrust

Arsonist

No marketing, mayo isn't an MQL

As others have mentioned Linkedin Job Search with the remote filter will be your friend. I know Chili Piper for example are full remote and tend to always have a few roles on the go.

VineMic

Executive

Account Executive

great call :)

RealPatrickBateman

Politicker

🔪Amateur Butcher🔪

@VineMic I may be the only person in here who doesn't agree with the govt. forcing an untested, experimental substance into my body. But rest assured, there are MANY companies that are not forcing their employees to vax.

Everybody wants you to think that large companies are the only way to "earn" and so you must conform. INCORRECT, there is more to Work Life than what happens in LA and NY corporations. I live in a large metro area, work for an Independent, and I EARN. Without the vax. You can too. Just dial 1-800-BATEMAN

SaaSam

Politicker

Account Executive

I would assume that any organization that is 100% remote won't really care so just look for something that's completely remote. There are a ton of them out there.

Also, the mandate is likely to be stricken down by the supreme court eventually, so it won't be an issue in the future. Not trying to turn this into a political discussion as I don't think that shit belongs here, just reading the writing on the wall.

poweredbycaffeine

WR Lieutenant

☕️

Private enterprises can still choose to do whatever they want.

VineMic

Executive

Account Executive

Appreciate the feedback. Whether or not it's here to stay (Vaccine mandates), sounds like 100% remote with no travel requirements maybe the safest route.

SaaSam

Politicker

Account Executive

Yup pretty much. Honestly though, I prefer companies with less than 100 employees anyways. I'm a fan of early stage startups.

FamilyTruckster

Politicker

Exec Director, Major Accounts

I’m sure there will be companies that make it very clear that they will not mandate vaccinations.

VineMic

Executive

Account Executive

I will look for them

poweredbycaffeine

WR Lieutenant

☕️

While I am resisting every urge in my body to tell you you're wrong...whoops...just search for roles that are remote-only. Filters are available for it on LinkedIn and Angel.co

RealPatrickBateman

Politicker

🔪Amateur Butcher🔪

@poweredbycaffeine , can we have an honest conversation about this?

The masses of people trying to shame others into taking the jab is very "culty" and strange. How did we get here?

UrAssIsSaaS

Arsonist

SaaS Eater

Good luck

Justatitle

Big Shot

Account Executive

Salesforce hires for fully remote roles so I’m assuming that’s a good place to start, honestly the market is so hot right now with fully remote jobs that this shouldn’t be a huge issue for you.

dwightyouignorantsale

Politicker

Account Executive

I think your only option here is to work 100% remote. ……. or just get the vaccine.

FeedTheKids

Politicker

Solutions Consultant

Gotta go the startup route.

Most companies ~50 employees won't have hard rules/restrictions like larger corporations.

poweredbycaffeine

WR Lieutenant

☕️

My startup is sub 25 and we aren't allowing non-vaccinated employees to come into the office during quarterly in-person meetings or attend in-person events.

FeedTheKids

Politicker

Solutions Consultant

Better chance with a company who is sub 25 employees over a company with a much larger team.... Not saying every Startup is the same, but def better odds in my opinion/experience. (Changed jobs at the start of covid - both companies ~100 employees....)

VineMic

Executive

Account Executive

Very true. Most likely it will be enterprises putting this pressure

cw95

Politicker

Head of SDR

I wouldn’t necessarily agree - they want everyone fit and healthy to avoid disagreements and in house gossip etc about non Vax people etc

LordBusiness

Politicker

Chief Revenue Officer

Sorry to say, but There is a chance vaccinations will be required even for remote work, given the recent announcements from the political leaders that companies will be levied with fines for non compliance with vaccinations or have to pay for weekly testing(which is expensive as F)

VineMic

Executive

Account Executive

Correct me if I'm wrong but that's for private employers with over 100 employees?

washedD1soccer

Politicker

Regional Sales Manager

It’s going to be tied up so long in court due to the questionable constitutionality of it that I highly doubt it will actually happen.

goose

Politicker

Sales Executive

I personally hope organizations stop mandating vaccinations. Then I hope they refuse to pay insurance premiums. Then I hope insurance companies deny claims related to illnesses that can be prevented or mitigated by vaccines.

Anyway, try Gong.

thesheriff

Good Citizen

Mid Market AE

A good idea is to look at start ups with 100 people or less or move out of California. I was born and raised in California and I moved to Denver for other reasons. I thought I would regret it and it honestly turned out to be the best decision ever. California doesn't really like diversity of thought, more of my way or the highway. Plus people outside of California are waayyyyy nicer.

happyhunter

Politicker

spittin' sunshine

100% remote opportunities or startups will be your best bet.

VineMic

Executive

Account Executive

Sounds like it @happyhunter , seems to be the most consistent feedback for those who arent vaccinated. Thanks for your feedback

DungeonsNDemos

Big Shot

Rolling 20's all day

Just take a look through 100% remote, small companies. Or perhaps looking into industries that may have a majority of companies that won't care.
There's a few websites for remote only jobs too, and many are smaller companies.

VineMic

Executive

Account Executive

@DungeonsNDemos do you know of any industries that aren't strict about this? I know its been a big topic in SaaS. Thanks for your feedback, regardless buddy!

DungeonsNDemos

Big Shot

Rolling 20's all day

Honestly it's a bit hit or miss. I'm in Florida where it's very... mixed in response.

I would say it depends on who is steering the ship.
If you can leverage your network or look at posts of people who share your similar views, you can probably find companies that won't mandate it.

My company has no mandate, though I do have both shots and would recommend getting them, but this is America and people can do what they want.

_pup_of_main_street

Fire Starter

Sales Development Representative

I have been contacted from recruiters at Insight Global for a 100% remote role, but I believe it was IT staffing.. not sure. Good luck

thesheriff

Good Citizen

Mid Market AE

Don't work at insight global. Look at my review of them on glassdoor, the review "Read Carefully". Terrrrrible place to work lol

RealPatrickBateman

Politicker

🔪Amateur Butcher🔪

Can confirm. Friends have been through IG in the past. Fastest way to get bent over AND lose your soul, hands down.

ColdCallHotCoffee

Politicker

TSR

Do you have to prove you're vaccinated? That's absurd! I'm not hearing or seeing any companies do this. Although I am down South =)

You don't want to work for anybody like that anyhow. Keep looking and keep your head up bro. Maybe explore remote opps?

VineMic

Executive

Account Executive

@ColdCallHotCoffee Appreciate the input, I think this will be a "TBD" basis for companies (ex. Google and Cardinal Health have implemented these policies but many other organizations are still unsure).

jwellington

BallinShotCallin

Who has mandated it so far? I’m guessing SFDC for suew

jwellington

BallinShotCallin

Who has mandated it so far? I’m guessing SFDC for sure

Diablo

Politicker

Sr. AE

Difficult to say, I know a company that claimed to be 100% now changing strategies to hybrid model to increase team bonding

countingmyinterest

Politicker

Account Executive

Echoing the remote jobs thing.

Otherewise try non-tech jobs and/or look for companies HQ'd in Texas. They'd probably have something else to say about the vax...

Hoopnip

Politicker

Commercial AE

Just don’t work for a company who sells to the government.

Fenderbaum

Politicker

Retired Choirboy🪕

Biden said the pandemic is over, so mandates shouldn't be an issue anymore.

CaneWolf

Politicker

-1

Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract

Just get vaccinated.

Sunbunny31

Arsonist

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

To add to this: I'm currently covering new opportunities for a colleague who has Covid. Too sick to work, so I'm getting the inbounds - which is great for me, not so great for my coworker.

And the sickness did not come from being out visiting customers - it came via a child bringing it home from school.

Basically, you're risking being too sick to work and making $0 while you're out.

edit for clarity

jseg

-1

account director

Fuck them they are putting others at risk. Take the shot millions have. Kids babies all at risk for these clowns

TechSalesQueen

Executive

-3

Sr. Enterprise Account Executive

I just love to LOL at folks who think they’re smart enough to do sales but not smart enough to understand basic scientific principles. Remote inside sales sounds like a good fit for you buddy. 💩

Flippinghubs

Opinionated

-3

Account Executive

Get vaxxed

Thripe

Fire Starter

-4

Head of Sales

Enjoy working for a shitty company, if any.