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Need helping find organizations that would allow unvaxxed sales reps

Hey Bravado War Room Members,


Unfortunately I'm coming to a weird point where my organization will be enforcing a vaccination policy as we return to the office in the new year. There's no options for continuing to work remote full-time and I will be on the lookout for new roles.


Does anyone know which companies will allow their sales reps to forgo being vaccinated in order to sell for them?


I don't want to turn this into a pro vs. anti vaxx discussion, my personal belief is everyone has choice as to what they put in their body and I'm not advocating for or against it (this is your choice...)


Please let me know which organizations will not mandate employees to be vaccinated to sell for them, ideally within tech (SaaS preferably).

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DealDonkey
Acclaimed Answer
+2
Director of Business
Heaven is always open. 


poweredbycaffeine
WR Officer
+9
Bean Juice Drinker | Sales Savant
THIS IS GOLD
GrizzleMcThornBody
Politicker
+10
EVP - RevOps
so is Hell, if you're into that kind of thing
1nbatopshotfan
Politicker
+6
Senior Director, Enterprise Technology
I think that you’re out of luck, personally. It seems that all mechanisms for risk reduction point towards mandatory vaccines for being in person. 

Your best bet will be to find a recruiter to find you a 100% remote job, with no travel requirements. 
VineMic
Valued Contributor
+5
Account Executive
Agreed @1nbatopshotfan looking like a 100% remote role maybe the only option. Thanks for the feedback
1nbatopshotfan
Politicker
+6
Senior Director, Enterprise Technology
And personally, sales person to sales person, I must say, get the vaccine. There’s really know scientific reason not to. 
Beans
Politicker
+8
Account Executive
Good luck.

Forward thinking tech companies are going to be a hard sell on non-vaxxers.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
+13
Senior Account Executive
I don't disagree. 
InQ5WeTrust
Arsonist
+9
Sales Savages, what is our profession? Trauma!
Looking forward to when they start mandating specific shots. Pfizer gang vs moderna mob. 
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InQ5WeTrust
Arsonist
+9
Sales Savages, what is our profession? Trauma!
As others have mentioned Linkedin Job Search with the remote filter will be your friend. I know Chili Piper for example are full remote and tend to always have a few roles on the go. 
VineMic
Valued Contributor
+5
Account Executive
great call :) 
FamilyTruckster
Politicker
+9
Exec Director, Major Accounts
I’m sure there will be companies that make it very clear that they will not mandate vaccinations. 
VineMic
Valued Contributor
+5
Account Executive
I will look for them
RealPatrickBateman
Politicker
+8
Amateur Butcher
@VineMic I may be the only person in here who doesn't agree with the govt. forcing an untested, experimental substance into my body. But rest assured, there are MANY companies that are not forcing their employees to vax. 

Everybody wants you to think that large companies are the only way to "earn" and so you must conform. INCORRECT, there is more to Work Life than what happens in LA and NY corporations. I live in a large metro area, work for an Independent, and I EARN. Without the vax. You can too. Just dial 1-800-BATEMAN
SaaSam
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
I would assume that any organization that is 100% remote won't really care so just look for something that's completely remote. There are a ton of them out there. 

Also, the mandate is likely to be stricken down by the supreme court eventually, so it won't be an issue in the future. Not trying to turn this into a political discussion as I don't think that shit belongs here, just reading the writing on the wall.
poweredbycaffeine
WR Officer
+9
Bean Juice Drinker | Sales Savant
Private enterprises can still choose to do whatever they want.
VineMic
Valued Contributor
+5
Account Executive
Appreciate the feedback. Whether or not it's here to stay (Vaccine mandates), sounds like 100% remote with no travel requirements maybe the safest route. 
SaaSam
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
Yup pretty much. Honestly though, I prefer companies with less than 100 employees anyways. I'm a fan of early stage startups. 
poweredbycaffeine
WR Officer
+9
Bean Juice Drinker | Sales Savant
While I am resisting every urge in my body to tell you you're wrong...whoops...just search for roles that are remote-only. Filters are available for it on LinkedIn and Angel.co
RealPatrickBateman
Politicker
+8
Amateur Butcher
@poweredbycaffeine , can we have an honest conversation about this? 

The masses of people trying to shame others into taking the jab is very "culty" and strange. How did we get here? 
UrAssIsSaaS
Politicker
+8
SaaS Eater
Good luck
Justatitle
Politicker
+11
Mid Market AE
Salesforce hires for fully remote roles so I’m assuming that’s a good place to start, honestly the market is so hot right now with fully remote jobs that this shouldn’t be a huge issue for you. 
dwightyouignorantsale
Politicker
+6
Manager, Sales
I think your only option here is to work 100% remote. ……. or just get the vaccine.
FeedTheKids
Politicker
+3
Solutions Consultant
Gotta go the startup route. 

Most companies ~50 employees won't have hard rules/restrictions like larger corporations. 
poweredbycaffeine
WR Officer
+9
Bean Juice Drinker | Sales Savant
My startup is sub 25 and we aren't allowing non-vaccinated employees to come into the office during quarterly in-person meetings or attend in-person events. 
FeedTheKids
Politicker
+3
Solutions Consultant
Better chance with a company who is sub 25 employees over a company with a much larger team.... Not saying every Startup is the same, but def better odds in my opinion/experience. (Changed jobs at the start of covid - both companies ~100 employees....) 
VineMic
Valued Contributor
+5
Account Executive
Very true. Most likely it will be enterprises putting this pressure
cw95
Politicker
+6
Pricing Executive
I wouldn’t necessarily agree - they want everyone fit and healthy to avoid disagreements and in house gossip etc about non Vax people etc
LordBusiness
Politicker
+8
Chief Revenue Officer
Sorry to say, but There is a chance vaccinations will be required even for remote work, given the recent announcements from the political leaders that companies will be levied with fines for non compliance with vaccinations or have to pay for weekly testing(which is expensive as F)
VineMic
Valued Contributor
+5
Account Executive
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's for private employers with over 100 employees?
washedD1soccer
Politicker
+3
Territory Manager
It’s going to be tied up so long in court due to the questionable constitutionality of it that I highly doubt it will actually happen.
goose
Politicker
+12
Sales Executive
I personally hope organizations stop mandating vaccinations.  Then I hope they refuse to pay insurance premiums.  Then I hope insurance companies deny claims related to illnesses that can be prevented or mitigated by vaccines.

Anyway, try Gong.
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thesheriff
Good Citizen
Mid Market AE
A good idea is to look at start ups with 100 people or less or move out of California. I was born and raised in California and I moved to Denver for other reasons. I thought I would regret it and it honestly turned out to be the best decision ever. California doesn't really like diversity of thought, more of my way or the highway. Plus people outside of California are waayyyyy nicer.
CaneWolf
Politicker
+12
Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract
Just get vaccinated.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
+5
Sales Executive
To add to this:  I'm currently covering new opportunities for a colleague who has Covid.   Too sick to work, so I'm getting the inbounds - which is great for me, not so great for my coworker.  

And the sickness did not come from being out visiting customers - it came via a child bringing it home from school.

Basically, you're risking being too sick to work and making $0 while you're out.

edit for clarity
happyhunter
Politicker
+6
spittin' sunshine
100% remote opportunities or startups will be your best bet. 
VineMic
Valued Contributor
+5
Account Executive
Sounds like it @happyhunter , seems to be the most consistent feedback for those who arent vaccinated. Thanks for your feedback
DungeonsNDemos
Politicker
+10
AE of B2B
Just take a look through 100% remote, small companies. Or perhaps looking into industries that may have a majority of companies that won't care.
There's a few websites for remote only jobs too, and many are smaller companies.
VineMic
Valued Contributor
+5
Account Executive
@DungeonsNDemos do you know of any industries that aren't strict about this? I know its been a big topic in SaaS. Thanks for your feedback, regardless buddy!
DungeonsNDemos
Politicker
+10
AE of B2B
Honestly it's a bit hit or miss. I'm in Florida where it's very... mixed in response. 

I would say it depends on who is steering the ship. 
If you can leverage your network or look at posts of people who share your similar views, you can probably find companies that won't mandate it. 

My company has no mandate, though I do have both shots and would recommend getting them, but this is America and people can do what they want. 
_pup_of_main_street
Fire Starter
+1
Sales Development Representative
I have been contacted from recruiters at Insight Global for a 100% remote role, but I believe it was IT staffing.. not sure. Good luck
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thesheriff
Good Citizen
Mid Market AE
Don't work at insight global. Look at my review of them on glassdoor, the review "Read Carefully". Terrrrrible place to work lol
RealPatrickBateman
Politicker
+8
Amateur Butcher
Can confirm. Friends have been through IG in the past. Fastest way to get bent over AND lose your soul, hands down. 
Co
ColdCallHotCoffee
Politicker
+6
TSR
Do you have to prove you're vaccinated? That's absurd! I'm not hearing or seeing any companies do this. Although I am down South =)

You don't want to work for anybody like that anyhow. Keep looking and keep your head up bro. Maybe explore remote opps?
VineMic
Valued Contributor
+5
Account Executive
@ColdCallHotCoffee Appreciate the input, I think this will be a "TBD" basis for companies (ex. Google and Cardinal Health have implemented these policies but many other organizations are still unsure).
jw
jwellington
BallinShotCallin
Who has mandated it so far? I’m guessing SFDC for suew
jw
jwellington
BallinShotCallin
Who has mandated it so far? I’m guessing SFDC for sure
Diablo
Politicker
+7
AE
Difficult to say, I know a company that claimed to be 100% now changing strategies to hybrid model to increase team bonding
TechSalesQueen
Catalyst
+5
Sr. Enterprise Account Executive
I just love to LOL at folks who think they’re smart enough to do sales but not smart enough to understand basic scientific principles. Remote inside sales sounds like a good fit for you buddy. 💩
Flippinghubs
Opinionated
+7
Account Executive
Get vaxxed 
countingmyinterest
Politicker
+4
Account Executive
Echoing the remote jobs thing. 

Otherewise try non-tech jobs and/or look for companies HQ'd in Texas. They'd probably have something else to say about the vax... 
Th
Thripe
Good Citizen
Head of Sales
Enjoy working for a shitty company, if any.
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