Nefarious information gathering for prospect info... (warning, first post)

Has anyone else considered or currently using some of the recent info leaks (Facebook, LinkedIn data dumps) as a repository to track down hard to get contact information? I've found is useful a few times but have run into calling prospects on their personal devices.


For context; the Facebook leak was a listing of millions of names tied to phone numbers in numerical order. You can either search based on the number (who called me) or search based on the name to find a phone number. *downside here is name searches could return multiples and phone numbers don't have a huge hit rate.


Additionally the LinkedIn leak provided email addresses as well. (often personal email addresses)


I understand some may feel this as crossing an ethics line but in my opinion; if it's legal, it's ok.


Thoughts?



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funcoupons
WR Officer
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Calling some poor sap on their home phone to pitch them a B2B product is a great way to get bitched out and your phone number blocked instantly. So if that's your goal, definitely do it!!!
UrAssIsSaaS
Arsonist
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SaaS Eater
SHES BAAAACK
funcoupons
WR Officer
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๐Ÿ‘‘
Not really, I just saw this stupid post and couldn't help but comment. Back to my golden tower I go.
UrAssIsSaaS
Arsonist
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SaaS Eater
SADNESS, and not the good kind we all love
jefe
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ
Agreed 100%
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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๐ŸฆŠ
So the people were violated once and you figure why not violate them again? ๐Ÿค”
alienjesus
Good Citizen
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Enterprise Sales Manager
Thatโ€™s the same line of thinking my reps have.. I donโ€™t want to email them, they wonโ€™t want an email and might think itโ€™s spam. I donโ€™t want to call them, their probably busy. If it ends up being their home phone play it off as the marketing teamโ€™s fault or something.
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
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Who are you? The manager of a Progressive Auto Insurance team? Don't call me on a number that I have likely never shared professionally or publically. It's only available to you because someone hacked it from backend user data.
jefe
Arsonist
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@alienjesusย what you outlinedย  in this comment is COMPLETELY different from your post.

Receiving emails or calls is part and parcel of being employed at a business - anyone with any hint of potential decision making power is going to experience this.

Some might view the emails as spam and the calls as annoying - this is also part of being employed (in sales).

If your reps are saying this/making these complaints, then they have poor attitude and potentially poor leadership.

Their complaints about a dodgy and potentially illegal scheme? COMPLETELY VALID.

You shouldn't have to lie about any part of your outreach strategy. Maybe dance around a little bit (like email open alerts) but don't lie.

Undermines credibility and trust in a way that can't be regained.ย 
Incognito
WR Officer
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Master of Disaster
@poweredbycaffeineย HEY WHY U
SHIT ON INSURANCE LIKE THAT


lol just kidding the small fish can die in a fire
UrAssIsSaaS
Arsonist
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SaaS Eater
This is way out of my realm of expertise, is it legal? Wasnt that info gathered and leaked illegally?ย 

Major preface that idk anything about these two leaks haha
CaneWolf
Politicker
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Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract
This seems like a really good way to cause massive problems for yourself.
jefe
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ
Yeaaa this doesn't sound right, and wouldn't feel right.

Pay for ZoomInfo or use free channels that are legit.ย 

(Or ask a buddy that uses Zoom)
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
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Just pay for Seamless.ai. I started using it today and I am in fucking love. It gathers work emails and direct dials in seconds.

My demo sucked, but I love what the product actually does.

Using leaked data is a great way to get a knock on your door from a government agency.
jefe
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ
A federal raid makes for a great movie scene but a pretty shitty Tuesday
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
It would totally creep me out. Plus I no longer answer my home phone/personal cell phone if I don't recognize the number, because there are only so many expiring car warrantees that I need.ย  Why would your prospects be any different?
Diablo
Politicker
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Sr. AE
Yikes, I will never do such things..
goose
Politicker
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Sales Executive
Did you get any credit card data?
alienjesus
Good Citizen
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Enterprise Sales Manager
No, not interested in that. Just the contact database.
goose
Politicker
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Sales Executive
Ok. ย LMK...
jackodiamonds
Opinionated
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Account Executive
You do know you can buy a prospect database full of this information, that is likely going to have a way better hit rate then some random Facebook list? Go to G2.com and look at sales intelligence platforms. There are literally hundreds
alienjesus
Good Citizen
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Enterprise Sales Manager
Last resort only if you havenโ€™t been able to track him down any other way.
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
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If their personal phone is not available on their website, in a contact database like ZoomInfo, or their email sig...then don't be a shady fuck.
jefe
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ
I don't think any aspect of anyone's process should be able to be deemed anywhere close to 'nefarious'
UrAssIsSaaS
Arsonist
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SaaS Eater
Alienjesus why are we even having this conversation? Take a note out of your handles past, treat thy neighbor how you want to be treated. No one wants to be getting cold called by someone who stole their data from a leak. Bad karma all around.ย 
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You've built rapport, took them through your value proposition, scheduled follow-ups, everything feels great. Now it's decision time and.... GHOSTED... How do you recapture their attention and when is it time to hit them with a break-up email?

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What do you do when the contact information is no good?

Discussion
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๐Ÿšจ Alert: immediate review of all AEs please respond ๐Ÿšจ what info would you like on prospects or would you like to know how to find?

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