pirate

Account Executive

Painkiller on Netflix 💊

I just finished watching Painkiller docuseries on Netflix. The docuseries is about Oxycontin, I think being in sales so many things were super creepy.

They hired young, pretty women straight out of college to sell the product

We see how they make insane amounts of commission. And it's luxury houses and nice bags and penthouses. Commission was based on the doctors upping the dosage

They used extremely aggressive tactics and the objection handling was based on lies and freebies and wining and dining with the doctors

Sales messaging was genius. Just helping people in pain. Low risk of addiction. Based on nothing truthful.

Impact on reputation and society. What happened to all the people and their families and then of course the downfall of the company

Pretty crazy because I am not sure if my company always uses objection handling that is based on facts but nothing like this...

Have you watched it? How important is ethics to you?

Sorry if this has been brought up before my search bar wasn't working on the app

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poweredbycaffeine

WR Lieutenant

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I had to stop watching because the oxy epidemic fucked up where I’m from and it’s never recovered.

Charizard

Opinionated

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Business Like Things

Same. We’re still recovering and it’s taken more friends and loved ones than I care to count. Fuck that family forever.

pirate

Big Shot

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Account Executive

Really sorry to hear that

oldcloser

Arsonist

1

💀

Yeah- it did a terrible number in Tijuana

RandyLahey

Politicker

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Account Executive

As someone who was a ton of drug addiction (Oxy in particular) issues in their family, this was too difficult for me to get through.

pirate

Big Shot

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Account Executive

Yeah it seemed super f up based on the documentary. Really sorry to hear it affected you

jefe

Arsonist

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🍁

Haven't seen it but just added it to my list.

I think ethics are very important. There are always some areas of grey, but it's usually pretty damn clear when things cross that line.

Personally, I've given up inbound leads from tobacco companies to other people, as well as at least one other kind of organization I just didn't work with. Cannabis and booze are no problem to me, but I just can't get behind the tobacco companies.

pirate

Big Shot

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Account Executive

Yeah I think it’s important to tell people what sales is and where it can get you in life but also at the same time conversation on ethics and clean business and all that. Yeah I can’t support tobacco or even vaping companies

BasstheBear

Valued Contributor

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Account Manager

It’s such a good watch but it’s really really heart wrenching.

You’re literally watching the creation of a systemic problem that will take us a generation to repair.

poweredbycaffeine

WR Lieutenant

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☕️

Generations

Charizard

Opinionated

2

Business Like Things

First it was the pills. Then it was the heroin. Now it’s the fentanyl. In 5-10 years it’ll be something else. All because of that piece of shit family.

LambyCorn

Arsonist

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A mfkn E

this shit really pisses me off and it just doesn't get the attention it needs... tells ya $omething

Sunbunny31

Arsonist

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Sr Sales Executive 🐰

It was very challenging to watch; extremely heartbreaking.

The ethics are despicable. Not for me, that’s for sure. Definitely some evil genius at play. Think of how much better off we’d be if people weren’t driven by greed. All that brainpower wasted on venality.

pirate

Big Shot

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Account Executive

Yeah greed sucks and it was a horrible documentary to watch. Half a million people dead if not more is just unfathomable. More people should care about giving back and knowing when they have too much

Coffee_is_for_closers

Opinionated

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Product & Solutions Specialist

Ethics are everything. I know a lot of salespeople who can sell something knowing it is a bad product or misleading its capabilities. I was raised on the mantra: "If you see your customers in the grocery store, you should have no reason to hide from them."

pirate

Big Shot

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Account Executive

Yeah a good one. We have a big portfolio so I stay well clear of some products and few times said they have issues… I really like the grocery store example

Coffee_is_for_closers

Opinionated

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Product & Solutions Specialist

Check out Dopesick on Hulu. It came out a few years back, and I thought the story was a little better. It is told from a few perspectives.

pirate

Big Shot

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Account Executive

I read about this one! Don’t have Hulu though but will put it on my list of shows to watch

lowhangersalesbanger

Politicker

2

Account Executive

After working in an unethical industry and having seen what the product I was selling would do to people ethics have become very important to me. To the point that I will leave a job at the drop of a hat if they begin acting in a less than ethical way. I'm an animal that will do damn near anything to make a dollar selling, but I won't intentionally hurt people or businesses.

Gasty

Notable Contributor

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War Room Community Manager

+ Adding to the list!

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