No leverage in negotations

Hi All,


I am contemplating moving into a different office in a different region with my next promotion. There are fees associated with moving and there are visa's and lawyer fees that need to be paid. My employer would most likely pay for me to move abroad and the visa. However, in return I would have 0 leverage to negotiate a better salary for the promotion.


Does anyone have experience with moving to different offices and getting into a higher role at the same time? or changing situations and promotions at the same time so that I can get both the money for the move, and a good paybump.


Thanks


MrMoneybags


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Coffeesforclosers
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Director Sales and Market Development
I'm not understanding why you would lose the ability to negotiate a salary + relocation. Can you clarify? I want this as my pay if I am the candidate of choice and also need xxx for relocation. 

If you are candidate of choice you always have the power. 
MrMoneybags
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Account Executive
I wouldn't lose the entire negotiation room. However, if you promote within the same office you could negotiate without and chips on your shoulder. 


If on the other hand you move from country A to country B then the moving and legal fees themselves would already amount to 10k+. so I'm scared that instead of offering me 150k OTE with 50k extra stock compensation that they would offer me fewer stock compensation because they are already offering me that 10k moving money. 

At the same time I have the issue that I would be competing with people in the other office that would also want to move, but don't require a 10k moving fee. 

So the business case for me would always be more difficult than promoting local talent in my eyes. 

I'm not sure how you would see this?
Coffeesforclosers
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Director Sales and Market Development
Sure, local is maybe preferred, but if you nail the interviews and become the candidate they cannot live without $10k is a drop in the bucket man. If it were $50k maybe they would look to hire there or draw up a cant leave clause for 3 years to get their money back. I think you nail it and ask for what you want!!! 
ARRisLife
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Account Executive
@Coffeesforclosers agreed here! Become the number one candidate and you'll have some leverage.

I've seen at my org some folks who have moved and gotten the company to pay for it have some language saying they would commit to staying for X time... usually a year or two,  three sounds kind of long. In the case that you decide to leave then you pay the moving fee.

Seemed fair to me.

Good Luck!
Blackwargreymon
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MDR
Sure, local is maybe preferred, but if you nail the interviews and become the candidate they cannot live without $10k is a drop in the bucket man.
Clashingsoulsspell
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ISR
I'm not understanding why you would lose the ability to negotiate a salary + relocation.
MR.StretchISR
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ISR
I'm not understanding why you would lose the ability to negotiate a salary + relocation. Can you clarify? I want this as my pay if I am the candidate of choice and also need xxx for relocation.
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