Prospecting Rant

Here we go.... I've been in an outbound prospecting role for the last 6 years between SDR and AE life and I've read books, read the linkedin posts, had consultants come talk to our team, etc ad nauseam.


I've tried everything from 2-4 word subject lines, to videos, to linkedin audio, long emails, short emails, highly researched, barely researched, and it's just so painfully difficult to find anything that works.


With email/domain filtering, blocked phone numbers (on Zoominfo), and more, I'm just curious what people think actually works. I know there are so many dependent variables (is your product the de facto lead solution, completely differentiated in a market of its own, barely known, and on) but it's really exhausting to have results one day and then nothing for months. Our SDRs struggle to capitalize - so do our AEs. It seems like what works is name dropping but alas, you have to have that initial conversation to leverage that.


This is just a rant as titled. Bored of yelling into the wind with so much time spent on highly crafted notes, templates, sequences, and so forth. I signed up for this career path and while it's afforded me things I wouldn't have imagined... it's just exhausting.

๐Ÿ”Ž Prospecting
๐Ÿ’Œ Cold Emailing
๐Ÿ˜ก rant
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Pachacuti
Politicker
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
Sales isnโ€™t easy. High risk/ high reward. And there is no silver bullet when it comes to prospecting. โ€œLuckโ€ comes from persistently being at the right place at the right time, and just comes through hustle and grit.
TheColdestColdCall
Executive
0
Enterprise Account Executive
Amen - feelings passed, I'm back at it.
jefe
Arsonist
7
๐Ÿ
Let it all out. We've all been there, we understand.
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Sunbunny31
Arsonist
4
Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
Oh hell no, I'm not picking up the phone to that.
jefe
Arsonist
7
๐Ÿ
^^ Cold FaceTime winning strategy.
Sunbunny31
Arsonist
2
Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
Scarred for life, more like.
TheColdestColdCall
Executive
1
Enterprise Account Executive
the shock i experienced opening this
0PercentCloseRate
Politicker
6
Oh boy
Hey, if someone had solved it by now, wouldn't it be easy?
I hear ya. They pay us the big bucks to take on that stress and wear the daily failures. I do outbound prospecting in my day-to-day and I spend a lot of time on hyper-personalized stuff. It only (barely) works because I'm talking to a very relevant, category specific issue. Prospects have figured out how to tune out salespeople, more or less.
Justatitle
Tycoon
6
Account Executive
Warm them with emails, call them, pray to god they answer, rinse repeat. no magic bullet
CuriousFox
WR Officer
5
๐ŸฆŠ
Join the circle ๐Ÿ”ฅ
jefe
Arsonist
3
๐Ÿ
Hey Foxy, I'm on your left
Gasty
Notable Contributor
3
War Room Community Manager
Rant a little more, breathe, rant again, then pick up the phone and letโ€™s restart!
TheColdestColdCall
Executive
0
Enterprise Account Executive
I'm back - feeling passed
Notmyrealname
Politicker
3
AE
I always found that cold calling results were tied to product and market. Martech was by far the worst I've done, followed by cybersecurity. Very saturated and your ICPs get relentless calls and emails from companies that offer slight variants of the same product.
Worked in manufacturing tech as an SDR for about year and it was a delight. Gatekeepers would put you straight true, ICPs were not used to cold calls and would give you plenty of time to talk with them as most software in that space was new and really interesting to them. Only left because the VP said he had zero interest in hiring internally for AE roles and it would have stalled my career.
If I'm being offered a prospecting-heavy outbound role, first thing I'll check is conversion rates, market saturation, etc. If it's going to be a gruelling grind, the money better be right!
TheColdestColdCall
Executive
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Enterprise Account Executive
What a buzz kill to a great spot. at least you didn't hold on too long!
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It's not an easy job, we all signed up for the challenge.

But something that worked a little for me was understanding buyer psychology or start segmenting your prospect list. It helps you to start personalization from somewhere.

Understand this, we are living in a time where mediocrity has no space, customers want hyper personalized selling, so gotta bring it to them.
EscoChico
Catalyst
2
Sales Representative
Bro, you just need to hire one of them LinkedIn sales influencers. Haha... jk. Best advice I can offer is, take a few days off and forget about work. Go do something you love with a passion, immerse yourself in it. Come back refreshed and if you still hate what you do find a new sales job. Maybe you're burned out from this company.
TheColdestColdCall
Executive
0
Enterprise Account Executive
You're probably right - I've gone through several phases of burn out and I think I'm just dragging myself along at this point.
1
Sales Executive
2 Q's:

1) Is what you're selling something that is actually useful/desirable and has a good reputation? If no - yikes. If Yes....
2) What would make you respond to a cold outreach? What would grab YOUR interest? Then do that same thing for others
TheColdestColdCall
Executive
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Enterprise Account Executive
1: yes, we're a market leader in many arenas however its still a highly saturated space. As a platform, we have much more connectivity and exponential value unlock across buyer groups but many buyer groups are siloed in their thinking and therefore we come off as a premium solution.
2. responding to this - my mind goes less to what kind of subject line or attention grabber will generate a read, and more - knowing the wall of unread emails you're sitting in. Quality is important, but I think timing outreach and cross touch points help raise your chances of someone going back to find that email amongst the ocean of cold outbound.
IanJ
Executive
1
Enterprise Business Development
I haven't sent a cold email in almost 2 years now. I got sick of seeing the awful reply and conversion rates. I sell into cybersecurity so just getting passed their filters and inbox rules is more difficult than any other department IMO
salesservant
Executive
0
Director, Business Dev
If not cold emailing, what are you doing? Networking? Referrals?
IanJ
Executive
0
Enterprise Business Development
Networking on LinkedIn and in person events plus limited phone calls.
DefaultSalesDude
Executive
1
Director
Consistency of execution through varied channels with a value focused message. Keep keeping on!
FranchiseSalesQB
Politicker
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Franchise Sales QB
This will always be the # 1 conversation in our savage world, how to get engagement. Iโ€™m pretty sure most of us here would be able to set the meeting only if the person weโ€™re reaching out to either answers, calls back or responds. I mean most coโ€™s have sales teams and theyโ€™re depended on to make sales so that all the people weโ€™re calling to try and set a meeting with get to have jobs. ๐Ÿคฏ
Mr.Lego
Big Shot
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Sales Director.
Iโ€™ve had a lot of success with creating automated follow ups with a referral incentive program. Maybe itโ€™s a 10% off a future order for a referral that ends up purchasing, etc. we ended up seeing an additional 28% increase in new customer acquisition in 2024 simply because I created a program to have our clients talk about how great our company was. We made our customers sell for us. Just something to think about.
LMachine
Tycoon
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Sr. BDR
Numbers numbers numbers
LMachine
Tycoon
0
Sr. BDR
Cold calling now that's funny
CoffeeThenCelsius
0
Account Executive
Iโ€™ve seen trying to find partnerships to work out the best, people that have been at big logos and then them and all their colleagues have gone to other places. Other than that, I feel this 100%
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Client Executive
When Iโ€™m prospecting, if someone doesnโ€™t pick up, I always leave a voicemail and follow up with a quick email.

I just tried calling you and left a voicemail. Please let me know a good time for us to connect.

Keep it short, sweet and to the point. I donโ€™t like including links because it has a tendency to go to spam. Hope this helps!
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