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TheRealTommyCallahan

President of Callahan Auto

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Quitting in a few weeks due to having a very toxic manager.

Need some advice on quitting my job. I have another job lined up and ready to sign the offer. I do not want to speak to my current manager. I have never had a good relationship with them and they are very toxic. They are a big factor in why I want to leave for another company as well. Been at this company for 2 years and have seen great success. My question/advice I am seeking is have any of you gone straight to HR to quit? I do not want to have any more contact with my manager moving forward. I've always put my 2 weeks in directly to my manager but as I have said I do not want to talk with them.


Thanks in advance ya'll!

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Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
Are you planning to email HR your two week notice?

CC your manager.

That's it. Your manager will find out within those two weeks anyway, and, since you're in sales, you most likely won't work that whole time anyway. You may feel like expressing to HR what the issues were (if your company does exit interviews) but your manager cannot make you stay, nor do you have to listen to that person again.
jefe
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ
1000000% what @Sunbunny31said.
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
2
President of Callahan Auto
Yes the plan is to email HR my two week notice. The only thing I am afraid of is my manager calling me and wanting to chat. I do not want that to happen but I guess I can just ignore them, right? lol
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
You could. What is your manager going to do...fire you?
TennisandSales
Politicker
2
Head Of Sales
No need to speak to them. Put in your two weeks, be prepared to be let go immediately, and just donโ€™t speak with your manager.
Never a bad idea to leave a toxic environment, good for you.
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
1
President of Callahan Auto
@Sunbunny31right? HAHA
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
2
President of Callahan Auto
@TennisandSalesI appreciate it! I know my mental health will be a lot better leaving. Thanks!
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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๐ŸฆŠ
Another blast from the past! I'm liking seeing these names pop back up, even though this situation sucks.
ChumpChange
Politicker
2
Channel Manager
This is the way.
CadenceCombat
Tycoon
0
Account Executive
This is good advice
Kosta_Konfucius
Politicker
8
Sales Rep
If you manager ends up calling you after emailing HR, I would take the call and if they get toxic, just hang up. Sometimes toxic managers dont know what they did wrong until someone leaves
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
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President of Callahan Auto
@Kosta_Konfuciusthat's 100% right
GreyButNotOld
Good Citizen
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Director
Get an app to record calls. What state are you in? Check if it is legal. If it is, Take the call, start the app, call them back and let them rant. If they are toxic, let HR handle it from there.
Pachacuti
Politicker
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
I made the mistake of trying to be respectful and tell my manager over the phone (we're on opposite coasts so in person wasn't an option). Turned into a complete clusterF* that I'm still dealing with. SOOOOO...

What @Sunbunny31(and others) said - Email HR, copy your manager.

Be short and concise. Be ready to not be in the office ever again, have all remote accesses cut off, etc. the moment you hit send. In fact, you ought to have it done a week in advance, just to cover your bases.

Backup any info you want to take with you (just nothing proprietary to the company) long before you send that email.

If anyone (including your manager) asks why you're leaving - tell them it was for a better offer which you can't disclose. Wish them well.

If HR does an exit interview and you want to tell them the real reason - just know that it may get back to that manager and you could be burning a bridge.

Good luck!
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
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President of Callahan Auto
Appreciate the detailed feedback! I hate how managers take things so personal like that even though a rep is being respectful. Some managers just don't get how to be a decent human being. Thanks again!
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
This is great advice, with good steps to take.
Facm88
Personal Narrative
2
Channel Manager
Totally agree with this, sometimes it says more to refuse an exist interview than to do one - most HR will know what the deal is anyway. Goodluck!
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
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President of Callahan Auto
Thanks!
Fenderbaum
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Retired Choirboy๐Ÿช•
I would send the email, cc'ing your manager, like everyone else is saying. If the manager requests a chat, respectfully decline. If it matters, try not to burn any bridges, cuz you never know... And yes, I agree with a possible exit interview to express your issues to HR. Best wishes, Sir.
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
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President of Callahan Auto
@FenderbaumThank you!
SADNESSLieutenant
Politicker
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Officer of โ™ฅ๏ธ
I'm sorry you're having a toxic experience. That sucks. I had one too, this is how I dealt with it.

You never have to talk to your manager when you quit. If you want to burn a bridge blow that shit up. I once quit by slacking my boss

I'm sorry for your loss.
him:?
me: It's me, I'm the loss. Im putting in my two week notice today.

hr contacted me soon and I was gone by EOD. Easiest and most regarding quit ever.
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
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President of Callahan Auto
Oh I love that idea! Sorry you had to deal with a toxic manager as well. I don't mind burning this bridge down. I don't even know if my manager would put in a good word for me anyways. They don't seem to like me even though I have been consistent at hitting my numbers. Oh well, like you said, their loss!
SADNESSLieutenant
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Officer of โ™ฅ๏ธ
Fuck them, there loss. I would honestly just stop replying to the manager and stop doing anything or showing up to anything and just stretch out that pay for as long as possible while finding a new role. make them fire you for being assholes. I just couldnt do it for any longer so thats why I quit like that
Happy
Good Citizen
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VP Sales
Just write a short and polite email to HR and your manager. If your manager calls, then answer and tell him politely that you simply had a better offer. That's it.

If your managers start acting passive-aggressive and shit, just keep your composure and say something like: 'I've always acted professionally, and will continue to act professionally for my remaining two weeks despite your tone."
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
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President of Callahan Auto
Love this. Thanks!
ThatNewAE
Big Shot
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Account Executive - Mid enterprise
Email your manager and the HR about your resignation - No direct comms. Just cc the manager so they know. You donโ€™t really have to have a word with your manager.

Make sure the HR knows that you do not wish to have any word with the manager, no explanations needed. But make sure your reference (if the future company asks for) is squeaky clean. That shouldnโ€™t take a hit.

Also curious - What did they do this bad ?
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
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President of Callahan Auto
Thanks for the advice! My manager has constantly told all of their reps to do something a certain way and we do it that way. After doing said thing the way they want us to do it they get upset and literally tear us all down individually. I am not the only one on the team who has issues with it. We've reported our manager to HR but nothing seems to be working to get this problem fixed. This manager never has our back and always plays the victim. Another thing is they belittle us. I've been called stupid by them and I have spoken with other colleagues and this is the same thing for them. No training. No guidance. Just very toxic.
antiASKHOLE
Tycoon
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Bravado's Resident Asshole
Go with what @Sunbunny31said. email HR and CC your manager.
sundeep
2
APJ Head of Digital Sales
Frankly, how you quit is more a reflection on you than them.

My advise always is, send in your resignation (manager + HR) - advise them of the last working date.

If there is an exit interview, ensure you give them feedback (concise + clear) - tell them there is nothing they can do that will change your mind.

Never give the a reason that they can use to make your exit more painful than it needs to be.
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
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President of Callahan Auto
Love this. Thanks for the feedback
GarthVader
Contributor
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Assistant to the Regional Manager
The simple solution here is write a professional resignation email to your boss and cc HR. Refrain from any emotional statements, while making it clear youโ€™re excited about your next growth opportunity. Be clear about your two weeks notice and if youโ€™re lucky, theyโ€™ll let that day be your last day while paying you through the end of your two weeks. Also, be clear with HR in the email that youโ€™re happy to conduct an exit interview with HR directly if they would like.
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
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President of Callahan Auto
Right on, Garth! Sending the email tomorrow. Gonna watch some Wayne's World tonight. Thanks for the feedback!
GarthVader
Contributor
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Assistant to the Regional Manager
You got this and let us know how it goes ๐Ÿค™๐Ÿผ
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
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President of Callahan Auto
Appreciate you. I saw you're in SLC. So am I. Let's connect sometime.
GarthVader
Contributor
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Assistant to the Regional Manager
Plot twist, Iโ€™m your boss. Lol!
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
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President of Callahan Auto
HAHAHAHA
JustGonnaSendIt
Politicker
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Burn Towns, Get Money
I have been thru exactly this.

Do what @Sunbunny31said. Email HR and CC your manager. Be professional and brief.

Something like:

Effective (today's date) I am giving my two-week notice of resignation. My final day of employment will be (two weeks from today's date).

HR will manage the process.

If your manager wants to talk, be careful not to do anything that would be uncivil, but it may be worth having a conversation about why you're leaving; if only to give them a chance to understand your decision.
AndrewFillo
1
Applicant
In my previous experience: eave on a strong note, and be the bigger person.

Copy in your manager on your resignation request. Keep it simple and professional. If they cannot relay the message back, that is in their own choosing to do so, and at that point, it is your decision to end communications and provide that info to HR.
YesitsmetheTopG
Contributor
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AE
Just poop on their desk then leave a two week notice letter on top I think theyโ€™ll get the message
CKamapguy
Fire Starter
1
Sales Director
Once you send your notice, you wonโ€™t last past end of the workday. Itโ€™s just the way things are going now.

my biggest issue over my career has been leaders reaching out to my new employer and trying to sabotage my new job. I now block everyone on social media and usually wait 60 days to update LinkedIn. People out here are just plain nuts.
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
0
President of Callahan Auto
You're right about this. Love the advice. I appreciate it!
gunforhire
Executive
1
Account Executive
Yes, and there is no shame in doing so, assuming you have a logical justification.

I had a manager in my last gig who said some extremely predatory comments to my partner while we were all at a work sponsored event. The next day, I put in my resignation with HR and explained why I was leaving.

This is what HR is for!
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
0
President of Callahan Auto
True!!
Mr.Pickles
Arsonist
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Sr. Customer Success Manager
People quit managers, not companies... so yeah
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
1
President of Callahan Auto
Facts
Mr.Pickles
Arsonist
1
Sr. Customer Success Manager
and the worst part is that I've seen most of the "legacy" managers used to be top performers... which proves that not everyone is born to be a manager. Good luck there captain
Dallas_Knight
Big Shot
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Strategic Account Executive
I am not saying I have done this or am doing this but what would happen if you just didnโ€™t quit. Signed the offer and just did the bare minimum until he/she asks you to come in and talks about a Pip and you just ask for severance instead ?
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
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President of Callahan Auto
@Dallas_Knight I like your thinking ๐Ÿ‘€
Dallas_Knight
Big Shot
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Strategic Account Executive
#OE
10XQLA
Politicker
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Medical Sales Assassin
I say let upper management above him know exactly why you are leaving.... they need to eliminate the cancer or they will keep losing performers like you!!!!
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
0
President of Callahan Auto
True! Sadly upper management is bad as well. Just a bad company culture. This company doesn't seem to care about losing good talent. Lots of turnover month over month.
10XQLA
Politicker
0
Medical Sales Assassin
If they only knew the damage they are doing... and such an easy fix.... good Luck brother
BourbonKing
Valued Contributor
1
VP of Sales
Email your letter of resignation to your manager and cc: HR. Keep it completely professional, polite, and matter of fact. You may not care about torching the relationship with the toxic manager, but you never know when your path may cross with the HR rep or others in the organization. Protect your brand.
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
0
President of Callahan Auto
Love this. Thanks!
Danny_Dials
Old School Bravo
0
Founder
This is your big 'you suck... you suck... you're cool' moment @TheRealTommyCallahan ! Get in there, let it rip, and go out in a blaze of glory!
cohiba7777
Executive
0
Director, Sales & Marketing
You are a coward. Grow up, call the man and tell him/her you are leaving - that's it. That's how adults in business act. No CC's. My guess - you were not as successful as you think you were.
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
0
President of Callahan Auto
lol thanks. 120% quota attainment ain't bad but whatever. Seems like you'd fit in with the company culture
AnchorPoint
Politicker
0
Business Coach
Further proof.... people quit managers not companies
OldSchoolEightiesStyle
Good Citizen
-1
Global Vice President
WOW! Be a man and tell your boss face to face or at least over the phone. Take great pleasure in telling him with your chest out and head held high. Be very professional, your delivery short and don't engage in a conversation. Then follow-up with an email reiterating what you said to him verbally. HR will then jump in. Don't be a fool and not think your boss may show up in your career down the road. Don't burn bridges, toxic bosses have a knack of landing jobs once they get fired.
TheRealTommyCallahan
Arsonist
0
President of Callahan Auto
lol not worried about being a man. My boss is a woman and also close to retiring. I work remote and will never see this boss again. I get doing it on the phone or face to face. This boss also only has influence on a certain industry that I plan on never working in again. Thanks for the feedback!

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