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Recruiters out in full force

Don’t get me wrong it’s always nice to be wanted but I’ve never had this many recruiters reach out to me for sales roles. I’m getting 2-3 messages a day for AE roles and I’ve never experienced this much of an influx before.


I’m close with my current manager and we were talking and he was saying that he can’t find AEs right now because nobody wants to do sales.


Curious if anyone else is also feeling the influx right now?

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CuriousFox
WR Officer
+11
Needer of Life Alert
Your boss may not be wanting to pay what an AE is worth. There's a difference 😉
Justatitle
Politicker
+8
Senior AE
That’s a fair point, my current company is willing to pay up, it’s more so a lack of talent and younger talent doesn’t want to get into Sales. 
Incognito
WR Officer
+11
Master of Disaster
The labor shortage is real
Justatitle
Politicker
+8
Senior AE
Apparently! I just never thought sales people would be tough to come by. Then again it’s tough to find good people for any role.
Incognito
WR Officer
+11
Master of Disaster
Everyone is hiring. Sales included. 
msp_sales
Opinionated
+4
Full Cycle Sales
Supply and demand is a hell of a thing. it’s kind of a job hunters market at the moment. Remember, recruiters are in sales too!
Justatitle
Politicker
+8
Senior AE
True story, how do you like MSP sales? I hated dealing with MSPs when I was in recruiting so I’m always curious how the salespeople there feel about it
msp_sales
Opinionated
+4
Full Cycle Sales
Most MSP’s are really crappy organizations, and selling a crappy thing is never fun. I am blessed to work at what may be my regions “best” MSP so it’s not that bad. 


I will tell you though that I think outsourced IT support services might be the hardest thing in the world to sell. Everyone says they do the same thing, and the client is totally uninterested in finding out why you cost twice as much.
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Tomahawk
Fire Starter
+2
AE Team Lead
We’re seeing shortages in sales, ops, Dev, all across the board. We haven’t seen a ton of attrition and what we HAVE seen I’d be fairly confident tracing back to lack of balance due to the growing workload and difficulty hiring.
Justatitle
Politicker
+8
Senior AE
Side note( my profile pic is a tomahawk rib eye smoked and then grilled) seems to be a big problem in hiring across the board right now 
Gyro25
Politicker
+6
BDR - Enterprise and Partnerships
That's interesting to hear. Sales is tough, but I would have thought people would be more willing to go for these roles given the pay. 
DaveGreen
Arsonist
+8
Head of Sales
There is a shortage of (Sales) Talent everywhere - I've been struggling to find real savages for my teams. 

I feel like it's because of two things;
1. No one really wants to be in sales anymore.. (pussies, really..)
2. The abundance of funding; every organisation seems to be getting massive amounts of funding in the past year -> meaning they're all scaling their sales orgs

Oz
Ozz
Politicker
+6
Account Executive
Agreed, we're growth stage startup right now with a small seed round so our budget are low and it's hard to get quality sales folk unless you pay. We're cash flow positive but I really think we should raise a pre series A. 
sales4lyf
Politicker
+5
Business Development Manager
I think the tide is changing, people are beginning to know their worth and want to be paid for their worth as well so, unless the wages are right it's gonna be hard to find people that wanna work for you!

I get a lot of recruiters as well, my favourite part is when some of them don't look at my actual LI profile and think I'm a software dev or PPC specialist rather than a sales person (I'm an ex-recruiter as well)
DungeonsNDemos
Politicker
+7
AE of B2B
I must be doing Linkedin wrong, as I'm not getting hit up much by recruiters. Maybe since my title isn't AE?
DrunkenArt
Politicker
+6
Sales Associate
Sounds like a classic case of underpaid employees with terrible benefits. Everything is opening up now, it's up to companies to keep themselves competitive to keep/attract top talent 
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RedLightning
Politicker
+7
Mid-Market AE
Lol, I added mid market to my LI title. My ACV dropped considerably in doing so. I was immediately hit up by recruiters with canned messages about how I'd be a great fit with MM experience (like 3 days into the title change)
SalesPharaoh
Politicker
+8
AM BDR
Same here i just had a title change to Global Account Manager and already two recruiters reached out to me. 

Im kinda ashamed that no company is willing to invest in internally for talent and they all want the plug and play type.
Justatitle
Politicker
+8
Senior AE
Which is also ironic because plug and play has a lower hit rate than internal promotion. at least in sales from my experience. to address the first comment it's apropos because its all just a title!!!
SalesPharaoh
Politicker
+8
AM BDR
I see what you just did there...
SalesRecruiter
Opinionated
+7
Recruiting Director
I’ve never had so many sales folks not interested is what I am offering. It really is a war for talent right now. I gotta say more than, “hop on this rocketship!” LOL
Justatitle
Politicker
+8
Senior AE
Thanks for weighing in here and yeah I can only imagine the competitive landscape right now. For me personally the rocketship line is a tired line FWIW. everyone says it and it holds no weight behind it because everyone that works for the company wants it to be a rocket ship and rightfully so. I'd get so much more value out of knowing what members of the sales team hit or exceeded their Quota QoQ and the promotions internally of the sales team moving up the ranks to show growth in the company 
SalesRecruiter
Opinionated
+7
Recruiting Director
To be fair, I don’t use that line. I was just kidding. I USED to use it maybe 3 years ago but it’s overdone. We offer some of the highest OTEs I’ve seen and a large amount of options in a late stage funding company. I feel like we have it all but it’s a fight to get the passive talent.
Rupert_Pupkin
Contributor
+2
Account Executive
We’ve lost a couple SDRs because they’re getting offers for $120k OTE. Tough in the streets right now.
Justatitle
Politicker
+8
Senior AE
Damn 120k as a BDR would have been so so awesome. My OTE as a BDR was 60k 
spicyrecruiter
Contributor
+1
Recruiter
The market is hot right now across the board- everyone is rehiring after massive lay offs due to COVID.
wHaTyAgOtCoOkInG
Catalyst
+4
Account Executive
Big influx right now, but if you're making good money and you're on a good run, with a good company, there is no reason to end that.
GDO
Politicker
+7
BDM
If your boss worries about having enough AE’s this is the moment to ask for a raise. You have the power. 
UserNotFound
Politicker
+9
Mid Market Manager
You know what would make me listen to a recruitment message? Instead of only telling me OTE, tell me what percentage of your team is achieving it. Have your team be the ones recruiting, I wanna know the good AND the bad. I can deal with an outdated CRM, I can’t deal with “leadership always challenging us to be better” because I know what the fuck that means.
Justatitle
Politicker
+8
Senior AE
This, also BDR support and self sourced expectations. Every CRM sucks and every company has leadership that thinks sales could do better. 
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