syyedobaid

SDR

Good Citizen

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Remote Opportunities but only for US residents/ citizens

I am sure I'm not the only one who has faced rejection due to their country of residence.

Why are all the remote opportunities open for US residents? I'm unable to find out its answer.

Everyone believes that skill sets develop regardless of location, It comes from experience.

Companies with WFH policy post job ads but later reject applicants and use their location as a point.

When will this discrimination end? Why would you keep skilled workers deprived of high-level experience based on their location?

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antiASKHOLE

Tycoon

Bravado's Resident Asshole

Taxes and the occasional travel in? just a thought. and as far as you labeling it "discrimination" it's really not at all.

braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

Taxes and immigration law. Hiring people from all over the world ain’t easy.

CuriousFox

WR Officer

🦊

That's putting it lightly.

Sunbunny31

Politicker

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

This is exactly right.

One thought I have is that many US companies have offices based in other countries. Those are the most likely to consider remote employees, as they are already set up to work in that country.

coletrain

Politicker

Account Executive

Simply put, this isn't discrimination.

Why dig through another nation's immigration laws, labor practices, tax laws, cultural differences, etc. when there is a massive pool of domestic talent?

lemonard

Catalyst

Unlike engineering, I think sales has a inherent location preference to it. Where are you based? I know couple of people that work US hours in Europe but it's not that common for sales tbh

Pachacuti

Politicker

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

It’s one thing to take a risk on someone in your own country, it’s another once your several time zones away.

Kosta_Konfucius

Politicker

Sales Rep

Its an unfortunate reality, but not sure how it will end.

punishedlad

Tycoon

🧙‍♂️

Everyone here has already covered all of the bases except one: Time zones. If you're in sales, it's preferable to be working the same hours as your prospects.

Epad

Executive

Snr Business Development Executive

This 🔥! I'm all for supporting those that are happy to work through the night but unless it is long term viable and doesn't affect your performance, then it's not a realistic option for employers

ChumpChange

Politicker

Channel Manager

This can also apply to the budget that the company has for that specific role. The difference between paying a BDR in the bay versus paying for a BDR in Wisconsin is pretty significant.

Diablo

Politicker

Sr. AE

As everyone mentioned, it’s about taxes, company registration, labor law, skill labor availability locally and the list goes on

CRAG112

Valued Contributor

Account Executive

You can’t work legally for another country while residing in another country and not being a citizen of said country, especially if that company is not legally registered in the country you are in and hiring in that country. And that’s a bare minimum. You can’t even go to another country and just get a permit to work. No way, does not work that way at all.

So sorry, but you don’t seem to understand how employment and the associated laws work. There’s no discrimination, it’s just a protection towards the workforce and keeping a country safe from being flooded and overwhelmed.

activity

Politicker

VP, Business Development

Mainly due to employment law.

JMSwiggidy

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

It’s not discrimination, it’s a lot more expensive and time consuming. You have to set up bank accounts, business licenses, and other things in the country you are hiring from.

DigitalTreatsPlz

Valued Contributor

Sales Engineer

Hey syyedobaid,

I feel your frustration, for reverse reasons! I'm a US citizen and I was looking for a remote job so I can work OUTSIDE of the US. Jobs that say "Remote-US" typically require employees to stay within the country, and at the beginning of my interviews one of the first questions I asked was to clarify their remote policy. (Side note, I learned the terms "remote/remote-[country]" usually means remote ONLY inside the specific country. What I wanted is a "work/remote-from-anywhere" policy, which usually means country agnostic.

The whole remote work thing is still pretty new so there's no standardization of terms, yet, which makes online job searching for those roles a bit more difficult.

I hope this helps. I found Flexjobs.com to be a good source of remote jobs (it costs $ to access).

Best of luck, friend.

Gyro25

Notorious Answer

Account Executive

Bravado should do a remote sales Q&A with traveling salespeople if possible, that be dope.

DigitalTreatsPlz

Valued Contributor

Sales Engineer

I was just wondering how many "traveling" sales folks there are here. "Traveling" takes on a whole new meaning in this remote world, in such a better way.

Gyro25

Notorious Answer

Account Executive

Well, taxes. Taxes are a major pain in the ass when it comes to wfh if you're the nomadic type.

There are those who know their ways around it, but you need to be a citizen of said country to get your foot in the door as is.

I don't disagree with you, but while paying less $ for non US workers makes sense in theory, the tax implications are big when it comes fees, sponsorships etc.

A possible work around to finding these companies is going on sales nav and filtering by University and seeing people who attended or know people within your region and asking about sponsorships and how to make your way in. Take it from a fellow immigrant, shits hard, but it is what it.

SaaSed

Executive

SDR

There's a ton of companies out there that are solving this problem for individuals/companies. If all their US opportunities are remote and HQ is in another country, they could be using a solution that enables them to hire outside of their HQ country without a legal entity. You could always reach out and see if it would be possible for the role to be open to your country. Depending on the solution and your residing country (Deel, Remote, Oyster), they could hire you just as easily in your country as the US. Worth an ask!

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