Savages, I need advice!

Things have been going okay at the current company I am with but I have had 4-5 legit opportunities with companies that I feel would weather an economic downturn better.


I am hitting quota with my team right now but we have severe economic headwinds heading into 2023.


Hitting quota next year looks like a near impossibility and I feel my earnings could be cut in half.


For those of you that have made a move in the past few months, what were the things that helped you sort through all the information you receive during these interviews and come to a final decision?


Thanks in advance for everyone's advice on this topic.

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Kosta_Konfucius
Politicker
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Sales Rep
Outside of the normal Repvue and Glassdoor. You need to back-channel and hear if reps thoughts on 2023 and % you actually succeed in hitting quota consistently.

Highly recommend asking to see reports on Q4 performance broken down by rep and seeing data what was done with the territory you are inheriting.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
Yes, this right here. Make sure they can back up their claims with tangible data.
DungeonsNDemos
Big Shot
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Rolling 20's all day
From my past experience I would never join a company where I can't speak with active reps to get their perspective.
activity
Politicker
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VP, Business Development
Great advice! Thank you.
Maximas
Tycoon
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Senior Sales Executive
I second this.
shadrach
Personal Narrative
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Account Executive
Definitely agree with reaching out to current and previous reps on LinkedIn. Most reps are pretty honest about quota attainability.
Pachacuti
Politicker
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
One thing to keep in mind if you're considering a switch of jobs due to economic issues - you aren't going to do much better in '23.

You'll need time to ramp, learn, and build funnel. You won't walk into a situation where they say "you're just the closer we needed". That doesn't exist.

Now if you feel your current company is a sinking ship and you're just getting ahead of a workforce reduction, great. But if you're just a fair-weather sales person who can only sell in good conditions, stay where you are at.
activity
Politicker
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VP, Business Development
The companies business model is based on transactional volume in real estate so unfortunately with interest rates we have seen volumes down 50-80%. My gut is telling me it's a sinking ship.
J.J.McLure
Politicker
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Owner at *redacted*
I'm looking to leave my current company for the same reason (plus a few more)
In my interviews, I ask how they feel about the possible upcoming recession and if they have a plan and just gauge their reaction. I've had a couple that are excited for the opportunities that are created and have a plan to push, grow and come out ahead of the competition. Others look afraid and flounder at the question with no clear answer.

Also, get Paul Reilly's book "Selling through tough times" it'll get you pumped at all the opportunities created during tough times, his website and podcast also have a lot of really good actionable info.
activity
Politicker
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VP, Business Development
Thanks for the advice and I will pick that book up as well. I agree some companies have seemed excited about opportunities that may come from a downturn and others are turning a blind eye almost. I try asking questions to cut through some of their BS because you can tell even if they say theyโ€™re excited about the opps during a downturn they still are just holding on for dear life.
TennisandSales
Politicker
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Head Of Sales
so i would look at the OTE and how likely it is that you hit it in year one.

most of the time, its hard to hit OTE in year one just because of the time of year that you start.

for me before going into the interviews I have done research to learn if the product really can be a "Must have"
You want to try and verify this in the interview by asking questions like: "from my research it seems like this product is a MUST have. but what are some main reasons why YOU think companies will still buy this in the next 12 - 24 months?"
activity
Politicker
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VP, Business Development
Great approach and I appreciate the advice!
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
To clarify- are you an IC, or a manager?
activity
Politicker
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VP, Business Development
Player/coach. I deal with large enterprise deals but manage a team of three reps that are SMB and mid-market.
punishedlad
Tycoon
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Business Development Team Lead
Just had a guy back-channel me for an opportunity at my company. It's a great strategy, and I was super honest and transparent with him when he called.
ABell
Good Citizen
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sales recruiter
I would recommend that you consider your options in terms of what would be best for your long term career. Recessions can be hard to weather, make sure to set your career up for success!
losangelessadness
Opinionated
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Inbound AE / SDR Manager
What industry are you in?
RelationshipMaker
Opinionated
0
Head of Sales
Agreed with back-channeling, it's awkward but worth the effort. Fringe benefit is expanding the network.

Make sure that your next supervisor is going to be supportive too. Doesn't matter if sales are going well but your boss/culture is awful.

Good luck, listen to your gut.
shecat
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Senior Account Executive
With looking at a new company, especially right now, I would be asking for legal terms in my comp plan/offer letter that compensates you for 6-9 months, even if the company gives you the boot. I am a single income household so if I lose my job because they sold me on joining their firm and they axe me, I want some kind of protection. Just a thought.
Lambda
Tycoon
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Sales Consultant
You already know what the right opportunity is, search your gut and make the decision
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