Armageddon

Enterprise Account Executive

The entitlement..

Let me start by saying I am all for remote work and think its the future.. But the the person in this article rubs me the wrong way... claiming anxiety as a health reason for an exception to RTO and suing the company when it was denied is next level entitlement.

Look, if you want to work remotely, find a job that allows it. How could you honestly continue working for a company that you just sued?? Seems like a cash grab to me.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/05/06/return-office-mandates-lawsuits-employees/

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Filth

Tycoon

Live Filthy or Die Clean

Meh - I always like to see how these play out, though you right it could be petty (all depends how real the med situation is) it could give employees a few more rights and I'm all for that in the current landscape.

Armageddon

Opinionated

Enterprise Account Executive

I agree with that, always good to empower the people. It just seems a little crazy to sue your employer rather then find a new job that aligns with your work requirements in my opinion

Filth

Tycoon

Live Filthy or Die Clean

Yeah I cant imagine the reception by executives would be "warm" to say the least lol.

jefe

Arsonist

🍁

Amen

RandyLahey

Politicker

Account Executive

Some key details are lacking here, but yeah suing feels a little much; find another job instead.

HVACexpert

Politicker

sales engineer

It also says he has congenial heart disease, if that is severe maybe he wanted to stay close to doctors or family? 🤷🏼‍♂️

Space_Ghost20

Executive

Account Executive

The only situation I could see possible legal action would be if you were hired or classified as fully remote and essentially given the green light to relocate further from the office. Like, far from reasonable commuting distance (i.e. office in NYC, you moved to Pittsburgh), and your employer did RTO with less than a month's notice, no relocation assistance, and if you refused they'd consider that resignation and would challenge any unemployment claims. Otherwise, I'm not sure a lawsuit is warranted.

Sunbunny31

Arsonist

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

I agree. Changing the conditions of the job would be a really good reason to take action.

sketchysales

Politicker

Sales Manager

Now his name is everywhere as well, probably not the publicity he was hoping for, can imagine he will may find it difficult to get a new role. If you dont like the rules, theres 3 options, comply, get a new job or start your own company, its that simple.

Revenue_Rambo

Politicker

Bad MFer

Anybody been on the hiring end recently? I'm sure it's due to bad advice on LinkedIn, but recently had a candidate make a wild laundry list of requests surrounding a 3 day/wk office policy:

- Company car- Monthly stipend for gas- Toll pass- Ability to leave at 3p to avoid traffic (they live 15 minutes from the office)

Armageddon

Opinionated

Enterprise Account Executive

LOL! In this job market? Thats outrageous and I would have laughed them out the door

oldcloser

Arsonist

💀

Gotta respect the ask. Then show their ass out.

Space_Ghost20

Executive

Account Executive

I mean, I was willing to commute 2 hours each way 4x a week without negotiating any stipulations. Most likely would have just found a cheap place to stay during the week and only driven Mondays and Thursdays. In this job market, negotiation just isn't possible.

They decided not to hire me out of concerns about the commute. Ok I guess.

Revenue_Rambo

Politicker

Bad MFer

Don’t get me wrong I love being 100% remote, and would be upset if I were forced the RTO.

Definitely going to be interesting to see these scenarios start to play out. If you’re doing your job remotely, hitting all metrics, getting consistently good performance reviews then there could be an argument made for fighting it, but most companies can simply point to at will employment statutes.

Sunbunny31

Arsonist

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

Oh … uh … wow. Out of curiosity, do you know what general age group the candidate was in?

Revenue_Rambo

Politicker

Bad MFer

Early 30s

Sunbunny31

Arsonist

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

Interesting. I did finally figure out my career in my late 20s … but I also didn’t assume I should get that kind of treatment. That’s wild. I really wonder where those demands are coming from.

Revenue_Rambo

Politicker

Bad MFer

No clue. They were laid out in an attempt to negotiate against an alleged 2nd offer. We kindly said thank you and good luck.

CuriousFox

WR Officer

🦊

FIGHT THE POWER

LightingLeader

Politicker

Specification Sales

As long as you think the boss can be “good” you won’t get it. Bosses are bosses because they exploit others.

pirate

Big Shot

Account Executive

A lot of bosses will get fired soon because they are proving that they don't know how to do their jobs and relying for the people in the team to teach you. Thus coming to the office is ideal for them

BigShrimpin

Politicker

Account executive

every fighter in the war on RTO is a hero even if its for a sham lawsuit

SaulBadman

Big Shot

Senior Account Executive

Nah it takes away credibility from legitimate concerns.

Armageddon

Opinionated

Enterprise Account Executive

agreed @Avon

BigShrimpin

Politicker

Account executive

The truth is unless your job function requires you to be on site or it cant be done you shouldn't be forced to any reason given is legitimate as far as im concerned