NoSuperhero

BDR LEAD

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Thinking of making a big move, need some advice.

Context:

I live in South America and have been for the past 11 years. I want to move to the Nordics and I'm evaluating everything that plays into the move, economic, opportunities for work, education for my son and wife as pursuing higher education in Europe is somewhat easy once you have paid tuition, culture, and also listening to people that have made similar moves to this region.

So with that in mind, what would be some of your strategies to start securing a job with a tech company as an SDR or sales rep?

Apart from trying to reach out to sales leaders in LinkedIn, I'm really drawing blanks right now. Also reaching out through email I feel it might be kinda weird. I mean I've never thought of doing this but I want to make this a reality and want to know how to approach this. In the year I've been working as an SDR I have found a lot of value in my human skills like listening and trying to help people. I've also found hunger for making wins and finding pain during a cold call. So I get that I have to sell myself in the end...

So My other question is, have you y'all done similar moves like these? If so, how did you approach it?

Sorry for all the questions y'all I'll have many more.

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CuriousFox

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I upvoted this to help you get traction. I don't know how to answer you though. 🐬

NoSuperhero

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BDR LEAD

Thank you, it helps!

goose

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Sales Executive

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/realsamnelson_sdr-bdr-hiring-activity-6830874450989330432-Au2t

Look at these companies that are looking for SDR's.

NoSuperhero

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BDR LEAD

Thank you Goose, will look into it!

goose

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Sales Executive

Cool

UrAssIsSaaS

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SaaS Eater

At the risk of sounding ignorant, make a short list of companies that you want to work for (and are huge so probably have intl offices) and start scanning their job pages. From there if they have intl roles (I’ve seen a good number recently as I’ve had similar thoughts) start looking for connections at those companies, or worst case just start ripping off job applications. Can’t hurt to just shoot your shot and see if you can get some feedback at worst.

NoSuperhero

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BDR LEAD

That's actually something I just started paying attention to on Saturday, haven't looked too far into it but It's something I'm starting to do, thank you for your advice!

UrAssIsSaaS

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SaaS Eater

Good to hear, good luck!

alecabral

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Director - Digital Sales Transformation

Easiest way would be if you already have a job (or getting one) at an international company that has offices both where you live right now and in the country you want to move to. At a SDR level you won't get a relocation, but applying for internal jobs will be easier.

If that's not possible, the first thing you need to secure is a work permit, or the proper visa so you can actually apply for jobs up there. If you have those already, then start applying to jobs or engage with recruiters, and make it obvious you'd relocate on your own so the whole "I don't live there right now" thing doesn't stop them from calling you.

NoSuperhero

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BDR LEAD

I've started to see some companies starting to hire internationally, and well that's why I'm asking. In the US the labor laws are pretty strict and can't hire people without work permits, however, there is a definite workaround when it comes to hiring people for services and things of the sort.

So IDK I've started to really move chains as of 3 weeks ago so I'm just starting to see what are my options and how to move forward.

alecabral

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Director - Digital Sales Transformation

Right, but WFH won't take you up there, meaning if you're hired internationally there's a reason for that. Costs in Latin America + the pool talent you get down here makes hiring internationally very attractive for most big companies. Now, "importing" that talent is a whole other deal. That's why I'm suggesting either get into a big company in your home country, or work on finding out what permits you need to go seek a job on your next country. That'll save you frustrations!

NoSuperhero

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BDR LEAD

Oh for sure, I see that as the biggest obstacle if I were to be hired outside of the EU and then jump abroad. But I want to start networking so I can at least raise my value now, you know?

alecabral

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Director - Digital Sales Transformation

That's a smart way of going at it! Do you already know what companies you are interested in? That's a great place to start.

SiliconBBQ

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The Metal Rooster

I have taken roles in companies with international presence and/or offices in cities i'd like to move. But as AleCabral said there are ecomomics at play. It seems like a tough bet to get hired as an SDR from SA to start in Europe. deep talent pool on that side of the pond. But what tf do I know.

I like slow cooking pork and pontificating on the internet as side projects.

NoSuperhero

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BDR LEAD

Yeah I know that technology is one of the biggest strongpoints for well most europe but if I'm completely honest with you, all these companies still need people that are willing to call and find pain and prospect and well that's not that easy to find either. Not every techy guy can be a good salesperson, that's how I see it.

CaneWolf

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Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract

I would start with the basics: -Have you looked into residency requirements? -How easy is it to get a job as a non-citizen? -Do you have the necessary language skills?

NoSuperhero

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BDR LEAD

Oh dude definitely, I've come to found out that most of Europe is pretty lax on young families coming over, especially if the country's rate of old people is getting higher and higher and the young people keep dwindling.

Do.it.for.the.checks

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Account Executive

Dude that's definitely the move. I can't give any advice, but honestly hope it works out

SADNES5

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down voters are marketing spies

Immigration is going to be your biggest hurdle.

You need to be invited to work, or already have an advanced degree of you're not a citizen or refugee.

Do you have citizenship? A right to work? Etc. Once you clear that hurdle it's smooth.

Hope you can make it over. I'd suggest Denmark or Norway.

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NoSuperhero

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BDR LEAD

I can see that, refugee status is the easiest way out if I'm completely honest with you.

SADNES5

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down voters are marketing spies

Make sure you follow the status for each region if you're going to be claiming refugee status. DO NOT ENTER with a tourist visa, this is the fastest way to get perma-banned or arrested and extradited if you know you will be applying for refugee status. Moral Turpitude is HUGE in this stuff, be honest and start the procedures now. Google refugee or immigration lawyers in your target country ASAP. Make sure they are reputable, maybe call their Customs agency and ask who is reputable too - there are a lot of scammers taking advantage out there.

NoSuperhero

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BDR LEAD

Oh for sure, we have to make our status clear from the get go, I understand that. The lawyer up game is better to do it once you've arrived, in my opinion. I've spoken to several immigration lawyers from the US by now and for most situations you'll get the grant to stay.

In Europe you have a permit to stay 3 months in a particular country , after those 3 months, you'll to have redefine your immigrant status, and start the process as it complies per country and situation, so yeah I've def started looking into that. The hardest against refugee status are the ones that are having floods of refugees coming from the several conflicts in the middle east, Hungary, Bulgaria, and Greece are having harder measures on who gets to stay and who moves back and what not but I'm following up as situations change. The perfect time to move is now if that's in the plans, do it now, eveyrbody is struggling like you and you'll have those relationships as you grow in the community, I see myself always someone that's involved with the community through my art and well that's becoming more and more dangerous where I'm living now, so gotta plan the move else where you know.

NoSuperhero

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BDR LEAD

Also why denmark or norway?

SADNES5

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down voters are marketing spies

Sweden is going through an immigration crisis; the Finn's are battling a cold war with their Eastern neighbor.

Leaves two options since Canada wasn't on the table.

NoSuperhero

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BDR LEAD

The Finn's do have that issue with Russia but I don't see that escalating too much further than it already has, Norway and Denmark are great options. I'm keeping my options open but I have to get outta here. Is Sweden's problems come from the Syrian refugees who don't mix in with the rest of society?

MaximumRaizer

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Sales Manager

Easiest way would be if you already have a job (or getting one) at an international company that has offices both where you live right now and in the country you want to move to. At a SDR level you won't get a relocation, but applying for internal jobs will be easier.

Blackwargreymon

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MDR

If that's not possible, the first thing you need to secure is a work permit, or the proper visa so you can actually apply for jobs up there

Clashingsoulsspell

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ISR

Easiest way would be if you already have a job (or getting one) at an international company that has offices both where you live right now and in the country you want to move to. At a SDR level you won't get a relocation, but applying for internal jobs will be easier.

FeedTheKids

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Solutions Consultant

Even with WFH, tough to get a job international.... Too many variables for companies.

Probably not viable as an SDR, but in other roles you could start as a contractor then transition into full-time assuming the company likes you.

Gonna be an uphill battle, but best of luck

SiliconBBQ

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The Metal Rooster

What country do you have citizenship in?

Why would they hire you from SA?

What is your current role?

I know crazy things are possible, but this seems outlandish. Your written English is nearly perfect, so I assume you are an expat.

MR.StretchISR

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ISR

At the risk of sounding ignorant, make a short list of companies that you want to work for (and are huge so probably have intl offices) and start scanning their job pages.

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