Pachacuti

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

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Tinder for Sales?

So this dropped (is dropping?) today. I checked it out. Very interesting.

I did a search for myself and found myself (very zen of me) when I typed in a specific search criteria.

Notables for me:

(1) its very public about what I posted in my description when I started my account. I'm sure I agreed to it somewhere, but for me its TMI to share with a random person/company.

(2) What stops a recruiter/company from reaching out to me directly? There's certainly enough info in the Free version to find me on LinkedIn.

(3) If you're hoping Bravado AI will help you find a job, you'll need to retool your profile here. This is something for @Gasty to look into?

I'm sure there's more if I dig deeper. But my primary takeaway is that our info is being used to fuel this new feature and I'm very curious as to how that will work out.

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RandyLahey

Politicker

12

Account Executive

Any minute sign of my personal info being attributed to me, I’m audi 5000

jefe

Arsonist

10

🍁

Interesting concept and it roughly aligns with what I figured it'd be. Aside from the whole doxxing of myself issue, there's something else I wonder about.

I'm not too sure how I feel about the whole base/OTE thing. To me, that's information that shouldn't readily available to recruiters/hiring managers. It's something we can share if we want to. What's most important is what we're targeting, but this looks to be reporting on our current.

What about those that got laid off in a bad economy and had to take a suboptimal opportunity because they have family to support? Is this going to keep them there?

Does it make companies less likely to offer a higher salary if they 100% know it's a big boost and think they can get talent for cheaper?

I'm curious about everyone's thoughts on this... @oldcloser @Sunbunny31 @Pachacuti @CuriousFox @Revenue_Rambo @poweredbycaffeine @braintank @TennisandSales @antiASKHOLE @unclespacejam @RandyLahey
Sorry for all the tags and doubly sorry for anyone I missed, but I'd really like to know everyone' s perspectives..

Pachacuti

Politicker

2

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

Many good points

antiASKHOLE

Tycoon

1

Bravado's Resident Asshole

Yeah, it leaves minimal room for pay negotiations.

oldcloser

Arsonist

2

💀

I don't tell my friends how much I make. This subject was an arm-wrestle with my wife. She won. So, she knows. I can't think of any reason to broadcast it to the world. It just takes our legs out in negotiating comp. Did I agree to this part somewhere? I looked. Didn't see that.

jefe

Arsonist

5

🍁

Ballparks to friends are okay if you want to. Spouses? I think that’s fair as it affects planning and life

Bravado and future employers?! Fuck that noise

HVACexpert

Politicker

2

sales engineer

As an employee this blows. As a recruiter or hiring manager this absolutely helps me from a negotiation and budgeting standpoint.

jefe

Arsonist

2

🍁

Sorry I forgot you, my friend! I don’t disagree, but I don’t see any benefit to those being asked for the information. It’s also not really fair to candidates.

HVACexpert

Politicker

2

sales engineer

Totally agree no benefit for us and it isn’t fair to candidates because now you can use this and hire someone with the same experience for possible lower pay based on their previous pay which fucking blows.

but this tool isn’t for us is it? In the end though if I post my job information and I figure out that it will be used against me regarding pay negotiations then i simply won’t use their product anymore. They need both recruiters and employees hoping to get recruited for this to work, otherwise it falls on its face.

jefe

Arsonist

3

🍁

It’s not for us, in the end, but we’re also the fuel that feeds the engine. Disincentivize us at your peril. It all falls apart without the candidates.

I do not support this aspect of it. Rest is pretty cool for the most part, even if most recent quota doesn’t tell the whole story

Space_Ghost20

Executive

2

Account Executive

I'm someone who was laid off and took a suboptimal job. My comp went from $75k base/$150k OTE to $50k base/$75k OTE. While part of me was worried that this could pigeon hole me into a lower pay band, a) I'm now unemployed and even a low pay band is better than driving Uber to make ends meet and b) anyone who does even a few minutes of investigation will be able to tell that I took a fairly large pay cut from 2022 to 2023. Putting it in a single repository might make it marginally more accessible, but only so.

Pachacuti

Politicker

1

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

great point

jefe

Arsonist

1

🍁

I feel you, and was actually thinking about you when I posted.

This platform has you indicate your current Base/OTE and allows employers to search accordingly. How would you feel about the $50K/$75 being the parameters under which you were found and the sole way your compensation is represented?

Space_Ghost20

Executive

1

Account Executive

It's not ideal.

Pachacuti

Politicker

2

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

As in everything - you don’t need to tell them the complete unedited truth. I don’t.

jefe

Arsonist

1

🍁

I completely agree, but I'd assume Bravado would structure things in a way where they'd hope for accuracy/the truth .

Space_Ghost20

Executive

1

Account Executive

That's what I assume too.

oldcloser

Arsonist

8

💀

As much as we cough up personal truths in here, it would be a helluva trick to use textual analytics to assign personality attributes to the profile. Different level solution entirely.

Pachacuti

Politicker

5

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

If you take the assumption that because we're in Sales we are opportunistic and will entertain any semi-decent offer floated our way, than yah.

oldcloser

Arsonist

5

💀

I was thinking- "Likes chicken noodle soup and barely legal boys." Some around here would never get a look

Revenue_Rambo

Politicker

6

Director, Revenue Enablement

That was my exact take on it when Sahil hinted the other week. Swipe and see if there is mutual interest.

poweredbycaffeine

WR Lieutenant

10

☕️

This is fucking hillairous. They used all of our data to fuel their product.
The "data points" is referencing our portfolios and deal records, I guarantee it.
Prove me wrong, Bravado team.

oldcloser

Arsonist

7

💀

unclespacejam

Politicker

5

ur dad’s brother

Feels like we should get a slice for everything we’ve contributed.

oldcloser

Arsonist

5

💀

Have a commish

Revenue_Rambo

Politicker

6

Director, Revenue Enablement

$0.07 closer to that Rolex

unclespacejam

Politicker

7

ur dad’s brother

Thanks dad

unclespacejam

Politicker

7

ur dad’s brother

Make that $0.14

crmsrawesome

Tycoon

5

Sr Enterprise AM for hire

I thought the “fake jobs” were the lure so is this the chum? I never clicked because of the type of roles listed and finally when I do, which I’m glad to have joined, this starts. It’s all my fault so just add it to the list of bullshit that I get and let’s get on with it and maybe this will result in job offers flowing like the beer at a tailgate party!

Revenue_Rambo

Politicker

9

Director, Revenue Enablement

It’s all going to be fun and games until someone hacks the server and blasts out the NOC list publicly tying out anon personas back to real life.

oldcloser

Arsonist

5

💀

👆👆👆 Yep.
Besides, everyone knows you’re colonel sanders

oldcloser

Arsonist

5

💀

Or tail at a beer party - either

Revenue_Rambo

Politicker

5

Director, Revenue Enablement

Either way it’s finger licking good ✌️

oldcloser

Arsonist

4

💀

Nice shot 🐓

braintank

Politicker

7

Enterprise Account Executive

Bingo. Which is why I never filled out mine.
Ultimately I think this'll fizzle becuase most users have empty profiles.

unclespacejam

Politicker

9

ur dad’s brother

Honestly though the “millions of data points” sounds a whole lot like the “hundreds of thousands of daily active users” in the war room.

Lmfao there are like maybe 100 of us

oldcloser

Arsonist

4

💀

Ever buy a used car that had a 300 point inspection?yeah

HVACexpert

Politicker

5

sales engineer

Yep, nothing is free. If it seems like it, then guess what, YOU are the product. Social media has done this for years. Sahil has gathered data points for a while and will now use it to power his new toy.

BigShrimpin

Politicker

8

Account executive

theres TENS of us in here and dont you forget it

unclespacejam

Politicker

7

ur dad’s brother

👖👖👖👖👖👖👖👖👖👖

Revenue_Rambo

Politicker

5

Director, Revenue Enablement

And half are 🇨🇦

BigShrimpin

Politicker

5

Account executive

americans are too busy getting paid 3x as much as us to post online

CuriousFox

WR Officer

7

🦊

I think it's already happened

jefe

Arsonist

5

🍁

They mean 300 hits of the THC vape while inspecting

LambyCorn

Arsonist

6

A mfkn E

i mean saying is true, free means you are the product - obviously we all know we are a product here but interesting to see what bravado is trying to do. I always wonder what their game plan is since the hiring marketplace didn't seem to work very much

SalesBeast

Politicker

5

Sales Leader

I just hope my profile and info is not shared. I am cool with doing this part anonymously but the second I find my actual info shared- I am outta here.
It asks for company email to use the AI, and there is no way in hell I am linking up my company domain and email to get into this. NO WAY. Who knows what it would do with the info from using my company gmail to get a log in. Wondering if Pachacuti used company email to look yourself up or how went about that? I’m skeptical and this new AI got me curious how much of my info is shared and what is shared??

HVACexpert

Politicker

4

sales engineer

I still get requests to connect with people who I don’t know, and I have changed all my preferences as previously directed…

oldcloser

Arsonist

1

💀

That was me. Was looking for a 130,000 ton system.

HVACexpert

Politicker

1

sales engineer

Oh well we have a special going on now for 130,000 ton systems. That will be $260 mil please. Up front of course.

oldcloser

Arsonist

1

💀

muh lukky day!

sugardaddy

Politicker

0

🍬

Indeed!

Coffeesforclosers

Notable Contributor

3

Director Sales and Market Development

Looked at my profile and they had my real name again, had changed that a year ago last time they did it. Not cool for an anonymous site. May be time to bounce for real

Charizard

Opinionated

2

Business Like Things

Had the same thing. I made all of my profile private. Looked the day before the product went live and noticed my profile was just like my linkedin. Not fuggin cool man.

Pachacuti

Politicker

1

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

Not good. I always double check that before posting.

Kosta_Konfucius

Politicker

0

ERP Sales

Damn thats not good

Revenue_Rambo

Politicker

2

Director, Revenue Enablement

And half are 🇨🇦

Justatitle

Big Shot

2

Account Executive

If the tool is free then you are the product. I'm not that stressed about it though

pirate

Big Shot

3

Account Executive

It's all fun and games until there's a breach and all the information leaks

CuriousFox

WR Officer

3

🦊

📣📣📣

sugardaddy

Politicker

0

🍬

👀👀👀👀

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