How do you cope / navigate / not get caught up in the drama?
I am fresh outta college in my first SDR role and I am terrified of how backstabbing my company's culture is...
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Toxic work culture?
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Mind your own business. Be friendly with everyone but don't trust no hoes (hoes applies to men as well.)
easier said than done, but so worth it!
Exactly, 'Easier said than done' is the key. Gotta experience it to see what you want. You'll be okay mate.ย
I've been on a course before where we 'had to practice cold calling' and one girl said after a call 'I'd push my colleagues under a bus just to get a meeting'. Jesssssus.
the toxicity is ~shocking~ to say the very least. glad i am not the only one who has experienced this, but c'mon there's gotta be leaders out there that don't tolerate this amongst their teams...right?!ย
There is, for the lucky ones! I've said previously on this forum that I'd like to imagine if I was the Director of sales (etc) I'd get rid of this culture. However, it's a silver lining, if it happens more and more, move on and you'll eventually land in a role where it's a holistically pleasant culture and you'll love it.ย
I've been at my company 2+ years and I'm moving in to a pad with one of them, I got lucky, but try and find yourself that luck matey.ย
I've been at my company 2+ years and I'm moving in to a pad with one of them, I got lucky, but try and find yourself that luck matey.ย
that's encouraging to hear. I'd like to think I would be the same if I were given that level of leadership...
Good to know there are some good ones out there!
Good to know there are some good ones out there!
Fax no printer.
Agreed with this
Keep your head down, focus on your work and don't participate in gossip.ย
do you have any recommendations on how to actively not engage? for example, if a coworker comes up to you and vents to you about someone on their team, do you have any good responses to diffuse the convo?
I would make it clear to them you don't want to be a part of that conversation. "hey, I don't mind if you want to vent but I'd rather not be a part of any gossip"
If they keep coming back to you, just be stern about it. Unfortunately people are assholes and might ostracize you but this where focusing on your work comes into play. Just kick ass, hit your numbers and exceed managements expectations and whatever your peers think of you won't mean a thing when you're consistently showing results.ย
If they keep coming back to you, just be stern about it. Unfortunately people are assholes and might ostracize you but this where focusing on your work comes into play. Just kick ass, hit your numbers and exceed managements expectations and whatever your peers think of you won't mean a thing when you're consistently showing results.ย
love this. thank you!
You can always be the vented to person, just don't be the person that does the venting.ย
amen
You could try a Venezuelan style coup with other SDR's in the office.
oooh, please say more!!
What do you mean backstabbing? Can you expand on this?
like, throwing coworkers under the bus every chance they get, very two-faced when it comes to being "work besties" but then turning and saying "I hope she ends up getting fired soon"
If that happens, move on.ย
My first advice would be to leave. I am fresh out of college too and was in a toxic company, I left after 2 months. Honestly would have left after a month but I was waiting for another opportunity to come along. So many companies are looking for SDR/BDR right now that they don't care if you leave after a few months.ย
If you don't want to leave. DO NOT AND DO NOT engage in the drama. At my previous company, this girl that I thought was "my friend" came to me and I engaged in her drama, next thing you know, homegirl throws me under the boss during a team meeting... I owned up to what I said because that's just how I am and I didn't give a fuck anymore but you know, I would have preferred to be lowkey.
If you don't want to leave. DO NOT AND DO NOT engage in the drama. At my previous company, this girl that I thought was "my friend" came to me and I engaged in her drama, next thing you know, homegirl throws me under the boss during a team meeting... I owned up to what I said because that's just how I am and I didn't give a fuck anymore but you know, I would have preferred to be lowkey.
ah, thank you for this! i called a few friends this morning and they reminded me, "you are not the exception - if they are talking shit about others, they are talking shit about you"...so now I'm making extra sure to not give anyone ammo against me lol. i think i am going to begin updating my resumรฉ...ย
stoked you have been able to leave and start somewhere else!
stoked you have been able to leave and start somewhere else!
Yeah thatโs good that you are being cautious, cause maaan you cannot trust anyone in those environments. The nicest people are the most dangerous!
Thanks, you can do it too!
Thanks, you can do it too!
Keep focus on your goals and what you control. Don't engage in the conversations that seem negative. Eventually if you don't seem interested in their drama people stop bringing it to you.
you and Opal ^ are def on the same track. do you have any recommendations on how to verbally show you are not interested in the drama?
Leave. If there is one piece of advice I can give you, Leave.
My next thread is going to be "what to ask during interview process to gauge company culture" LOL...
^^^ Yes.ย
I once asked the person interviewing me why their glassdoor sucked. She gave me a "most of those are from different teams...people just use that to complain... " I found out over the next 3 years of my life why their glassdoor sucked.ย
I once asked the person interviewing me why their glassdoor sucked. She gave me a "most of those are from different teams...people just use that to complain... " I found out over the next 3 years of my life why their glassdoor sucked.ย
GTFO, don't stay and leeeeeave!!!
this seems to be the general consensus...is this a common thing in tech sales?? *nervous*
In my experience, toxic environments are there because of a lack of leadership. And if you see that early, it's best to strategically put yourself halfway out the door.ย
Leave, but while you look for another job, let your co workers be just your co workers, not your friends. Some SDR/BDR orgs are like high school on steroids.
oh so true. realizing how much older these coworkers are and wondering what happened for them to be this way lol
Ugh I totally feel you on this.ย
Get your work done. When someone starts up....pretend to get a phone call, make an excuse to leave the room....
never, ever speak negatively about anyone. you can always find something to compliment, like "they sure do put in a lot of effort!", "I love their sense of style", "always punctual" - whatever. Just cut off negative comments before they start.ย
And dont ever, ever assume anyone is your friend. save your friendships for after work hours.ย
Get your work done. When someone starts up....pretend to get a phone call, make an excuse to leave the room....
never, ever speak negatively about anyone. you can always find something to compliment, like "they sure do put in a lot of effort!", "I love their sense of style", "always punctual" - whatever. Just cut off negative comments before they start.ย
And dont ever, ever assume anyone is your friend. save your friendships for after work hours.ย
ooh the pretending to get a phone call trick is keyyy. thank you!
Fuck the bullshit.ย Dial the phone. Get that bread and ignore everyone else.ย When things are getting dicy with coworkers I'll look a mf straight in the eye and say, "I'm here to make money, not friends" and get back to work. Ain't nobody got time for the drama.ย ย
I laughed so hard at this. gonna try it Monday.
How'd that go for you?
well, they laughed and thought i was joking...but it definitely got them to realize im not the one they should talk to lol
LETS GO!!!
Get out.ย
nothing good comes at companies with that sort of culture.
nothing good comes at companies with that sort of culture.
you're not wrong
Toxic work culture will change you and you might not even know it.ย I agree with what Opal said but sometimes you can be a target if you aren't participating.ย If you find that to be the case, listen to everyone, don't contribute to the conversation and simply validate what they are telling you in a general way.ย That usually gets them off your back.ย ย
Understand whether you have the political skills to navigate that environment to meet your goals. If you don't and can't figure it out you'll never get ahead there and should leave.
Isnโt all work toxis
Leave
the concern I have with this is that I am relatively new to my role/company (4ish months) and I am afraid other companies will see me leaving as a reflection of my ethics rather than the company's ethics....thoughts?
Oh man. That is rough. I actually had this same situation happen to myself. I left after 8 months. I'd recommend staying as long as you can but one thing to do is have your LinkedIn set to "open to work" so recruiters reach out to you. Once they reach out to you it is a lot easier to say in the interview process that you are just keeping your options open. Good luck my friend. I feel for you
oh, this is great advice. thanks for your help! to bigger and better things...soon enough.
Your intuition and that nagging heavy feeling in your gut? Listen to it.
The work environment is always a problem, but over time learn to recognize people who are worthwhile and those who are not, keep your friends close and your enemies watched, also look for hobbies or things that take your mind off work
Hey I worked a lot of food industry jobs.
The worst one by far my manager was known in other departments for being a boor. She was lazy AF and on top of that management sucked.
Always remember you work for the job you want, not the job you're at.
The worst one by far my manager was known in other departments for being a boor. She was lazy AF and on top of that management sucked.
Always remember you work for the job you want, not the job you're at.
Bad for health.. get a new job buddy.
There are plenty of sales job on LinkedIn and remote job boards
There are plenty of sales job on LinkedIn and remote job boards
Stay above it.... integrity will serve you well.
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