Using job offer to get promoted or get a raise?

Hi guys,

In a predicament here, I'm happy with where I am but I don't see much of a career advancement given that people stick with same title for long and that the company isn't really big.


I need to get ahead at some point 3 years same title and hitting targets with some raise but no title change.


Im taking interviews to know my worth in the market and have been offered a job with higher comp and title but different industry. What should I do?

Negotiate using an offer with another company?

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SpiderHam
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Manager, Sales Development
As a hiring manager, I know that if my rep has another offer, I can counter, but the reasons they wanted to leave in the first place are still there. Regardless of what they would offer you, you still won't like the career advancement opportunities.
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
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Senior Account Executive
True but if the counter is good, and the attitude changes for example pushing me for the goal I want one can stay?
SpiderHam
Opinionated
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Manager, Sales Development
yeah! Like @SalesGal said, happiness should be your #1 priority. If your current company can offer you what you want, then stay! It's your career don't let people on the internet tell you what will make you happy :) 
SalesGal
Politicker
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Account Executive
If I was in your position, I would only negotiate with the existing company by telling them I have another offer if I know I'm willing to walk away from the company I'm at and to take the other job. 

If what you really want is to get ahead at your current company and not switch places, then maybe have an honest conversation with your boss without telling them right away that you have another offer on the table (since that might make your boss defensive and not receptive to the conversation). Ask them what you have to do to get ahead. Once you have that conversation, you'll know where you stand.

If you don't like his answer and you think you'll leave anyway because of what he told you, now might be the time to go all in and tell them about the offer. 
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
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Senior Account Executive
Thank you for the detailed feedback, still not sure what to do yet. Keeping the options open. But I feel you are right on the money there. Waiting to hear what others have to say.
aiko
Politicker
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Sr. Account Executive
+1
funcoupons
WR Officer
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Sometimes using another offer as a negotiation tactic works, but sometimes it blows up in your face. Some bosses/companies will see you taking other interviews as you having one foot out the door, resulting in less favourable treatment/being passed over for opportunities because they think you're bound to leave soon. Some bosses will take it at face value - that you're just seeing what else is out there and will try and work with you to keep you happy. You know your boss/company and which category they'll fall into better than any of us. Just tread carefully.

My personal advice: If your goal is to move up in title/salary and you know your current company does not have a good track record of promoting people - why would you stay there? If the other offer is exciting to you and is going to get you where you want to be, take it! 
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
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Senior Account Executive
Thank you for your input fellow salesman
thegreatestsalesperson
Tycoon
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AE
If you really like your company and role then I wouldn't necessarily switch.  I would be candid with your current company and tell them the title and pay you would like.  Many people think the grass is always greener but sometimes it isn't.  I would make sure to research the new industry and make sure it is one you want to be in.  Also, have to know your worth and sometimes take a leap of faith to hopefully bigger and better things!
SalesGal
Politicker
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Account Executive
The grass definitely isn't always greener elsewhere. I think happiness should weight heavily in the balance when considering a new job. 
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
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Senior Account Executive
Also Covid because its easier to cut people now more than ever. I see around me plenty lost their jobs. So maybe i should reconsider after things stabalizes.
SalesGal
Politicker
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Account Executive
This ! Being the new guy/gal at a company isn't a good position to be in if there's a round of layoffs. 
MaximumRaizer
Politicker
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Sales Manager
If what you really want is to get ahead at your current company and not switch places, then maybe have an honest conversation with your boss without telling them right away that you have another offer on the table (since that might make your boss defensive and not receptive to the conversation). Ask them what you have to do to get ahead. Once you have that conversation, you'll know where you stand.
Clashingsoulsspell
Politicker
2
ISR
If I was in your position, I would only negotiate with the existing company by telling them I have another offer if I know I'm willing to walk away from the company I'm at and to take the other job. 
aiko
Politicker
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Sr. Account Executive
The grass is greener where you water it! You might not be as happy if you take the counter offer. I would let your manager know that you need a raise and that you are happy. You shopped around but realized that you want to stay. Let him/her make the call from there. I did this back in January and I ended up getting my raise in March. It paid off :)
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
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Senior Account Executive
Actually this has happened I have requested and gotten a raise. They have matched the offers and changed my position.
MrPotter
Valued Contributor
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Trainer
It is not a bad idea to negotiate saying you have another job offer if your goal is to get higher pay. But it sounds like you are more interested in growth and promotio.
If that is the case then consider taking the job with the bigger growth opportunity. Tell your supervisor you wish to be promoted. You never know!
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
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Senior Account Executive
Yea I did that finally got what I wanted. In my opinion have the offers do help you negotiate internally
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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Did you get promoted?
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
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Senior Account Executive
Yes and no. Like i got the extra responsibility of establishing the new team. Creating a salesplaybook for that said team and onboarding the director and senior reps. The appresail is this month so if after all that i don't get a title change/raise. I guess it means ill just leave. Cause with all that extra responsibility including onboarding and showing the director the ropes there is double quota now. But the new director seems cool and to have my back (he kinda has to lol) so he is pushing on the strategy i put in place and dicusses tweaks and challenges me constantly to have proper execution.

Honestly dunno whether to jump ship or see how this plays out. Cause in a way they actually listened to me and created the team with just me then hiring a structure around me. But on the otherhand the promotions and money doesn't justify staying. Like id only stay if i feel like learning. 
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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🦊
They took your hard work without properly compensating you. Yuck.
SalesPharaoh
Big Shot
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Senior Account Executive
Yea...now looking for jobs elsewhere now in case the appraisal doesn't get anywhere. 
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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Blackwargreymon
Politicker
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MDR
If you don't like his answer and you think you'll leave anyway because of what he told you, now might be the time to go all in and tell them about the offer.
MR.StretchISR
Politicker
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ISR
Sometimes using another offer as a negotiation tactic works, but sometimes it blows up in your face. Some bosses/companies will see you taking other interviews as you having one foot out the door, resulting in less favourable treatment/being passed over for opportunities because they think you're bound to leave soon. Some bosses will take it at face value - that you're just seeing what else is out there and will try and work with you to keep you happy. You know your boss/company and which category they'll fall into better than any of us. Just tread carefully.
Mr.Floaty
Politicker
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BDR
It's improved somewhat, you can shop freely, restaurants are allowed to have dine in service with limited capacities.
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