Justatitle

Account Executive

You are offered a role to make 400k(guaranteed) but theres a catch

Alright WR here's a situation that I can neither confirm nor deny happened to me.

Company has AE openings and is looking for a more experienced seller. Current org is ~50 people and the sales team average age is 24.

Their team makes between 400-1mil/year and they have the w-2s to prove it.

The catch is they require you to work from 8 am -8 pm Sunday through Friday in office.

Suppose you get offered the job, do you accept or decline? Why?

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TennisandSales

Politicker

Head Of Sales

100% pass.
thats awesome money! but you have no life. for me, married with 2 kids this would be impossible to make work.
its a no for me dog.

Space_Ghost20

Executive

Account Executive

I'd do it. 2-3 years and life on the other side would be pretty sweet.

jefe

Arsonist

🍁

Oh HELL no.

And that can't be real. WTF are you doing there on a Sunday?!

Sunbunny31

Politicker

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

Working another region, maybe? Australia, NZ, APAC?

jefe

Arsonist

🍁

That’s all I could think of.

And perhaps a lot of cocaine

unclespacejam

Politicker

ur dad’s brother

Cocaine with a capital C

TheDude

Politicker

Partnerships Lead

As someone with a team in APAC, you'd maybe have some meetings Sunday night, and the work week ends Thursday evening for NAMER.

Justatitle

Big Shot

Account Executive

I promise it’s very real and they are outspoken about it

jefe

Arsonist

🍁

I'm with @TennisandSales on this one.

My second question still stands though. WTF are they doing?

Justatitle

Big Shot

Account Executive

Your guess is as good as mine, I said no to the offer

Kosta_Konfucius

Politicker

ERP Sales

If it was 400k guaranteed, yes for only a year. It would be an hourly rate of 111/hr, as its 72 hours a week.
would not be a long term role by any means, most likely do it for a year, then do a 2 month vacation after.

poweredbycaffeine

WR Lieutenant

☕️

Decline.

My daughter is only awake 7-7. An hour a day with her is total bullshit. And losing a weekend day that I can’t spend having hobbies or hanging out with my friends and family is a raw deal.

FeelItInMyPlums

Valued Contributor

Sales Account Executive

If I was single, and had no kids, yeah I'd probably go crush it for a year or two. Making that kind of money early in your career, and then investing it, can give you a ton of flexibility later in life.
But I'm not, and have kids. No chance I'm disappearing on them for another 100-150k/year.

medhardwaredr

Politicker

Director of Sales NA

No. Back in the day maybe but now not a chance

Sunbunny31

Politicker

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

It’s a nice offer and if you have no other obligations at the moment, why not? You could work for a couple of years, bank the $$ and experience, and shift to another company later on.

The trick, of course, is to not blow up your lifestyle for those few years, but then - the long hours kind of takes care of that.

jefe

Arsonist

🍁

Exactly. If you're a single 25 year old, it could set you up nicely in the short term.

Sunbunny31

Politicker

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

You'd have to have a TON of discipline to manage your expenses.

unclespacejam

Politicker

ur dad’s brother

It helps if have you virtually no free time outside work ahahahah

jefe

Arsonist

🍁

Yea that's true. Aside from that capital C - which can help you have more of that fun in less time.

Brokenpuppet

Contributor

Enterprise AE

Definitely pass, how can you enjoy the money when you're chained to the job, literally. There's other opportunities out there to make the same while also not killing yourself.
can't take it with you when you're dead.....

Notstephcurry

Good Citizen

Sales Manager

I would consider it for a year or two, what is the PTO like?

Justatitle

Big Shot

Account Executive

No clue on PTO didn’t even ask

Notstephcurry

Good Citizen

Sales Manager

If you can negotiate a good PTO plan, it could be a solid option for a few years depending your situation

unclespacejam

Politicker

ur dad’s brother

Would assume it’s non existent

Notstephcurry

Good Citizen

Sales Manager

Sounds like it, but one can dream

braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

If you don't take it I might

Justatitle

Big Shot

Account Executive

After 6 months it would get very very old

braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

I could put up with a lot for $400k guaranteed

Justatitle

Big Shot

Account Executive

I don’t disagree and it’s why I went so far in the process. If I was unemployed I’d probably take it

Gasty

Notable Contributor

War Room Community Manager

Pass!!

Money is great but is it better than your peace of mind? I don't think so.

Justatitle

Big Shot

Account Executive

The reasons I declined were as follows
1.) never see my kids.
2.) the vp of sales was a pompous SOB that would likely butt heads with me 24/7

Charizard

Opinionated

Business Like Things

That sounds miserable.

TheDude

Politicker

Partnerships Lead

Unless wfh, pass. Why would I spend 43% of the 168 hours in a week inside an office? Tack on a commute and your life has no value. You may as well just setup a compound in Gitmo at that rate.

fuzzy

Notable Contributor

CMO (Chief Meme Officer)

If I was alone? Yes.

But currently, not just no, but hell no.

MRK47

Personal Narrative

Head of Growth

Very much depends on personal circumstances but I'd caution the appeal of doing so just to make bank in the short-term and then plan to downshift in a year or 2...unless you are super [financially] disciplined...it can be easy to get comfortable with significantly increased earnings....amazing how you find a way to normalize spending more......and then after 1-2 years, you've had a great time with no money worries, spent pretty freely but really have no put enough away to offset the loss of quality of life during that time or to cushion you once you feel burnt out and want/need to step back.
But if single with no responsibilities and can maintain a similar / marginally higher cost lifestyle, then hell yeah (assuming it's selling something of interest and culture is bearable) ...being able to build up a sizable cushion over a short period of time can open up so many future wealth building opportunities (investments etc) that otherwise might not be accessible to you.

Hoopnip

Politicker

Commercial AE

If this company is in CA , every startup company who made their inside sales employees work like this and didn’t pay overtime got sued eventually and employees were paid out huge. Salesforce , LinkedIn, Oracle.. just to name a few were sued years ago because of this… $400k isn’t enough money to work that amount of hours, no chance I’d take that lifestyle. $1M is impressive but there’s always an outlier at every company.

Fuck it. Take the job and don’t be a 🐈 . Stack cheddar and quit if it sucks. 😆

Pachacuti

Politicker

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

No.

cw95

Politicker

Head of SDR

I'd weigh up over commitments such as partner or kids or general social life. If you don't have over commitments I would 100% do it for a bit to earn top money. If you truly hate it after at least you can go on a long holiday to destress with all that mulla.

goose

Politicker

Sales Executive

At 24... I'd do it. Over 30... I'm out. 12 hour days 6 days a week is easy work for that kind of money at 24. Save for a house, build retirement, still have time to golf on Saturday...

Facebook, Google Ads, SEO Researcher, Ghostwriter

Accept it. And do time management. You’ll be handle it

AnchorPoint

Politicker

Business Coach

You have to decide what is important to you.

Supplier Manager

Jump on it, take your full breaks and plan a vacation! Then work your ass off!

rharris415

Contributor

Founder

Is it inside sales? Does that include overtime? If not, it’s worth more than $400k. And if it is inside sales, and they aren’t paying overtime, go work there for 2 weeks and it could be worth a hole lot more.

Justatitle

Big Shot

Account Executive

Yes inside sales. to my understanding outside of California, the overtime laws favor the employer. I declined the offer. Love what you put out on Linkedin by the way

FlexHard240

PeopleOps

There's a reason the average age of the sales team is 24. Anyone with kids can't do 12 hour days, 6 days per week, IN OFFICE no less.
Maybe grind it out for two years, keep your current lifestyle, bank $500-$600k, and then move on to a more balanced role. But even that would be hard to do for 2 years.