Did the interview and was great, but their call goal is 150-200 calls per day. Should I even consider them?
NoSuperhero
In the job market again, and their call output daily is at 150+ calls. Should I run?
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Start fucking sprinting.
In sales the only thing that matter is qualified meetings booked (if you’re an sdr). I can do that by doing 1,000 calls in a day, or I can sleep with the prospect’s wife in person. Shouldn’t matter, these metrics are a very faint correlation with average success, but they are by now means a causation of success.
Also bro seriously, 200 calls a day would be what… 30 calls an hour for the entire day? That’s assuming no one picks up-AND you don’t have any time to research who you’re calling.
Interview with some other places… also what will you be selling anyway?
In sales the only thing that matter is qualified meetings booked (if you’re an sdr). I can do that by doing 1,000 calls in a day, or I can sleep with the prospect’s wife in person. Shouldn’t matter, these metrics are a very faint correlation with average success, but they are by now means a causation of success.
Also bro seriously, 200 calls a day would be what… 30 calls an hour for the entire day? That’s assuming no one picks up-AND you don’t have any time to research who you’re calling.
Interview with some other places… also what will you be selling anyway?
That would run anyone ragged. Shit..I don’t think I made 150 calls a month as an SDR. If you’re calling that much, you’re probably also selling a shit product and they’re trying to cover up that churn with volume.
Cold calling works but this is an, absurd target. You’ll end up gaming the system to meet a dumb metric that they have pushed out too far.
I agree. I'm not sure how you'd be able to leave a desk.
I think that's the point... IDK it's just ridiculous in my most humble opinion WTF
You’re gonna make calls from the bathroom, to make sure you hit the 150.
Most I ever did was 150 a day, but I had an auto dial system that was fed leads by our sales ops team. I never looked anything up, and that’s how high volume their inbound was as this supported a team of 12 reps every day.
Get while the gettin' is good man. At that point, you're working in a glorified call center. Go somewhere that appreciates talent and doesn't just need a warm body.
Any time there's an unattainable metric held up as the standard, it's not a good sign. I'd keep looking.
I hear you, and I agree. But there’s nothing unattainable about 200. It’s not easy, nobody is saying it is, but NOTHING unattainable about it.
Something is only unachievable if one says it is, and if one is going to think that way, you’ll always be 2nd best or worse.
Something is only unachievable if one says it is, and if one is going to think that way, you’ll always be 2nd best or worse.
I do 750-1000 a week but use a dialer, it takes me 2-2.5 hrs a day. I don’t mind cold calling, it’s actually my best skill. But to parrot what someone else says the results should be what matters not the kpi. KPI’s should be a guard rail for underperforming reps to use to guide them to quota or increased performance. Kpi for the sake of kpi is the worst thing imaginable and in my experience leads to micromanagement, which leads to misery or quitting.
Damn well said.
Run or slide cancel to the next opportunity, 150 cannot be real or quality!
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Are you interviewing at Vector?
hahaha thank you for letting the WarRoom know to not apply there in the foreseeable future hahaha
Run Forest. Run.
That number seems…. Excessive.
Just a little
I don't think I make 200 calls a week much less a day...
my first job straight out of college I would do 100-150 a day. That wasn't by any means one of our metrics, it was just my own personal goal.
That was my goal at my old company, 250 per week...
fuuuuck 200 a day that is fucking stupid.
BYE!
BYE!
Why don’t you run towards them, and make yourself an immortal salesperson?
I have averaged 200+ At a job and it’s surprisingly achievable. There were days where we literally hit 400. They were not common, but they did happen, and I survived. Dare I say my success blew up.
Judge the situation wholistically. Ask the hiring manager if you hit your talk time or if you hit and your quota without that number, do you still have to? And stop and consider that everyone feels like you do. Everyone thinks to run in the other direction, and the cowards ALWAYS do. If this guy has a team consistently putting out 150+ and not quitting, he may have something very special going on. Something worth being a part of.
Granted, he may well be running a sweatshop, but it’s worth a 2nd look.
I have averaged 200+ At a job and it’s surprisingly achievable. There were days where we literally hit 400. They were not common, but they did happen, and I survived. Dare I say my success blew up.
Judge the situation wholistically. Ask the hiring manager if you hit your talk time or if you hit and your quota without that number, do you still have to? And stop and consider that everyone feels like you do. Everyone thinks to run in the other direction, and the cowards ALWAYS do. If this guy has a team consistently putting out 150+ and not quitting, he may have something very special going on. Something worth being a part of.
Granted, he may well be running a sweatshop, but it’s worth a 2nd look.
yes.
Run for the hills that’s insane
I think you know the answer to this question. Call metrics are such an outdated measurement. It encourages bad behavior like finding a dead line or general inbox and calling it to pump the numbers(never done this just have heard if from friends... yeah fucking right)
KPI should be results, not activity.
I’ve done 200+ but that metric was never expected of me and a lot of the contacts didn’t have numbers. I think expecting anything over 100 is nuts.
Do not consider them. Quantum leap away and shame them on glassdoor.
are these supplied calls? Making calls isnt hard. What is the compensation structure like?
Cold calling works but this is an, absurd target. You’ll end up gaming the system to meet a dumb metric that they have pushed out too far.
It’s maybe not a scam. Depends on how big the company is, and how optimized their sales wing is. I worked at a big company that had amazing marketing efforts so it was a minimum to do 150 or so calls a day, because that’s literally all I did the whole day. Call leads who clicked on article of ours online, ask them why, and if they want to meet. Pretty efficient process overall, and people were setting absurd amount of meetings. Keep in mind this was in a BTC context not B2B.
true, I think it was a b2c case as well, landed on a software company b2b at the end of the week hahaha, I appreciate the feedback!
Only if you have access to a parallel dialed/power dialed
In sales the only thing that matter is qualified meetings booked (if you’re an sdr). I can do that by doing 1,000 calls in a day, or I can sleep with the prospect’s wife in person. Shouldn’t matter, these metrics are a very faint correlation with average success, but they are by now means a causation of success.
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