Space_Ghost20

Account Executive

Valued Contributor

Why shouldn't I just quit now?

Talk me off the ledge. Formally received my PIP this afternoon. Have to hit monthly quota by September or that’s it. That part I’m obviously fine with, but the extraneous things I’ve got to do are in my opinion distractions from that. Weekly 1:1 with the manager are now 2x a week, one of which is to go over a call I’ve submitted and my own written remarks (one page, identifying strengths and weaknesses of the call). One hour each week shadowing a top performer (I don’t care one way or the other about this one to be honest), and I have to complete the onboarding training modules (with the quizzes) again. The ones that we took three weeks to do when I was hired. Granted I could probably blast through them in a couple days this time around, but still, that’s time I could be selling.

I don’t like this job, and don’t want to be here anyway. So why not just jump now on my own terms, and go drive Uber or something while I apply to other jobs? How stupid would it be to do this?

Update: after having spent the night and first half of the day thinking it over, I've been convinced to just stay the course. I'm not optimistic about beating the PIP or finding another job, but I don't really have any options. I have an interview tomorrow for an SDR job. Not my ideal, but better than unemployment.

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CuriousFox

WR Officer

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🦊

Or just get paid to do training modules while you look for another job?

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

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Account Executive

Training modules on top of the job I'm already doing. So it's not just training modules.

Phillip_J_Fry

Opinionated

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Director of Revenue

I think they are inferring that you don't do your job responsibilities and just apply to jobs during the day.

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

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Account Executive

Ah, that makes a little more sense. Not sure I believe it will work though.

Phillip_J_Fry

Opinionated

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Director of Revenue

I mean, if you're wanting to leave anyways, at least take the 30 days of pay, have an opportunity for unemployment (you won't if you quit), and spend your day applying for new roles while doing the bare minimum at work.

braintank

Politicker

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Enterprise Account Executive

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poweredbycaffeine

WR Lieutenant

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☕️

You want to quit in this market rather than be a little puppy dog for a few weeks? I’d start learning how to bark, friendo.

jefe

Arsonist

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🍁

Seems like a no brainer

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

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Account Executive

I figure I'm screwed either way. I can probably find a couple retail jobs making $15 an hour, work 60 hours a week and I've pretty much replaced this income.

poweredbycaffeine

WR Lieutenant

3

☕️

Are you reading what you wrote?

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

0

Account Executive

Sort of?

HVACexpert

Politicker

1

sales engineer

Yeah, it sucks but fight through the PIP and keep looking in your free time. Reach out to friends, colleagues, family, customers, peers, etc. getting a job is also about who you know.

oldcloser

Arsonist

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💀

Wisdom here. ☝️ it ain’t gonna be pleasant but get through it. There isn’t anyone here that doesn’t get it. But we’re all telling you the same thing. Get the unemployment check. You’ll be glad you did at lunch time. Sorry man

GDO

Politicker

1

BDM

60h a week. Damn

Sunbunny31

Politicker

6

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

Paid job search, or grinding it out wearing out your tires?
Either way, sorry.

Have you started applying elsewhere yet?

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

2

Account Executive

I've been applying. For months. And messaging hiring managers (haven't cold called them yet, but I guess that's the next step). AE I worked with when I was an SDR said they were looking for SDRs at his company a while back. I'll probably hit him up to see if they still are. I'll do whatever at this point. Given up hope for anything decent.

Sunbunny31

Politicker

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Sr Sales Executive 🐰

I'm sorry, this has been such a difficult time for many.
Have you posted your redacted resume yet to get feedback?

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

2

Account Executive

Yeah I did. About a month ago. Got some useful feedback. Not that it's boosted any results.

Sunbunny31

Politicker

0

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

So you're still getting stuck at the resume stage, no call backs? Time to reach out to hiring managers, if you're not already doing that. Give them an extra reason to look at you.

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

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Account Executive

The only thing I've not done is cold called hiring managers. I suppose if it leads to a job it's worth it to pay for Apollo or Lusha or whatever.

But no, I've not gotten any call backs. Not for several months now.

Sunbunny31

Politicker

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Sr Sales Executive 🐰

It does sound like you're going to have to do outreach - LI, phone - to get on the radar. Treat it like a sales job, with you as the product.

braintank

Politicker

4

Enterprise Account Executive

You want unemployment?

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

1

Account Executive

This is the logical answer. But it's the only reason I can come up with, I'm trying to come up with others.

braintank

Politicker

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Enterprise Account Executive

You like to eat and have a place to live?

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

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Account Executive

Yes, this is true. I guess the question is whether going on unemployment for six months is a better option than working at Walmart or doing Uber or some such thing for 6 months.

antiASKHOLE

Tycoon

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Bravado's Resident Asshole

asking the important questions now!

Diablo

Politicker

1

Sr. AE

Sorry to hear what you have been going through. I understand this might not be the right place but it doesn’t mean there are no other companies that are hiring or better than your existing. Work like you do everyday and dedicate sometime to apply for jobs. Keep faith in you vs attracting small thoughts.

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

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Account Executive

Logically, you're absolutely right. Unfortunately, I think I'm stuck in a limiting mindset. Not sure how to break out of it.

GDO

Politicker

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BDM

2x a week 1:1 damn!

pirate

Big Shot

1

🦜☠️ Account Executive

Just focus on PIP and forget social life for a month and look for other jobs too.

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

1

Account Executive

I'm 35 years old. What social life? The only socializing I do is with the weights at the gym. Definitely not giving that up.

pirate

Big Shot

0

🦜☠️ Account Executive

How many hours a week do you go to gym for? Life is to be enjoyed sir :)

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

0

Account Executive

5-7 hours a week. Outside of work, the rest of my waking hours are spent on the job hunt, or contemplating how much of a failure I am. There's a lot of that to contemplate to be honest.

doodly

Executive

1

Account Executive

I'm going to lean in on the gym time. Keep that going; I'm sure it's a massive source of positive energy and mental escape for you. Now more than ever, you need confidence and mental toughness. If you consistently develop yourself and show up for yourself every day, there is no stopping you when you start getting these interviews and show up as your best self. Don't let the stress of the PIP squeeze you, you already said you were ready to move onto the next chapter and a new role. This is just a season. You got this!

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

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Account Executive

I appreciate the kind thoughts. They ended up canning me and I haven't gotten another offer yet. It's not looking good.

pirate

Big Shot

0

🦜☠️ Account Executive

Sorry to hear this

Beans

Big Shot

1

Enterprise Account Executive

Hit your number while we eat up your calendar, makes sense.

Pachacuti

Politicker

1

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

In your case it appears they are really trying to make it work. I see your Update. I think your company wants to help you stay there but you are getting in your own way.

From what you write - I don't know if Sales is really the best place for you overall. Sure, you can get jobs, but I have a feeling you're going to bounce from job to job till you finally find yourself. And in the end you're just going to waste your time and others'.

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

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Account Executive

Maybe. I don't know. I did a good job when I was in banking (would still be there if I hadn't left for the B2B software world), I thought I did a good job at my last AE job (brought in about $800k in revenue through October of 2022). But it's possible that was all luck.

I'm too stupid for anything else. Trust me, I've tried learning to code, I've tried learning stuff like HVAC and welding. Too complicated. If sales isn't the answer, I don't know that there really is one.

I'm 35, I'm not young. I'm making less than most SDRs do. Assuming I even beat the PIP, should I want to stay long term?

Edit: I do appreciate your candor. Not many people have the capacity to straight up tell you they think you suck. I would much rather have someone tell me I'm ill-fitted for a job than placate me with niceties and empty platitudes.

TommyLikeWingy

0

Sr Enterprise Account Executive

IMO, when a company puts you on a PIP, 99% of the time that want you out.

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

0

Account Executive

It's hard to tell. I do find it a little annoying that I was only given the PIP at the end of the day on Wednesday, knowing that we'd have an all-day team-wide training seminar Thursday (yesterday) leaving just today to get my PIP assignments done. In addition of course to my regular job duties.

Kosta_Konfucius

Politicker

1

Sales Rep

Good luck on staying the course!

FoodForSales

Politicker

0

AE

paid job search?

Space_Ghost20

Valued Contributor

0

Account Executive

The past 8 months have been a paid job search.

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VP of Sales

Just recently had something similar, where there were a multitude of micromanagement processes added to make sure I was performing. Our sales goals were increased by 200%, with our prices increased by 400%. No negotiations. I was let go yesterday due to the company needing to "restructure and find their direction".
Just remember, there is very little loyalty from employers. I'd find something as soon as you can. Once you are out, it will be a relief to your professional and personal life. Don't quit until you find something.

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VP Sales

If you hate your job and hate what you’re selling, you won’t be successful.
But do a serious self reflection on your actions and what you could of done differently. There is always something to learn!

alwayzbizzie

Executive

0

Senior Manager, Mid-Market Sales

If you don’t agree to work through the PIP, can they offer you some severance?

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