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Going Vegan?

What's your take on going vegan?


I was seriously considering this by looking at some content by PETA and other animal rights institutions.


Although there's less scientific research on people who are complete vegan and if or so they are nutritionally deficient.


I know some vegans are too extreme on their opinions but I wanna take the more practical route. Any thing to share?

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funcoupons
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Kahluapons
I'm not for or against it, people can choose to eat whatever diet that works well for them. That said, it's not for me. I'm doing my best to follow a low carb diet, and most vegan foods (beans, pasta, breads, fruit, many veggies) are packed with carbs.

I hate that the meat/animal product industry is rife with animal abuse, either directly or indirectly but I don't think there's anything wrong with consuming animal products. As a compromise I would ideally like to be able to buy all of my animal products from local, cruelty free farmers. 
The.Machine
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Sales Development Lead
Low carb Vegan diet does exist but it does burn a whole in the pocket. 

Farm grazed meat is the best nutritionally as per the research I read although the fact that we're killing is a lil sensitive to me. 

Or maybe I'm just being dramatic lol. 
funcoupons
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Kahluapons
I'm honestly curious as to what you could eat on a low carb vegan diet. I feel limited on low carb eating meat/fish as it is.

The way I look at it is that animals eat other animals all the time in nature, it's just the circle of life. As long as animals are killed in a humane way and given a good quality of life when they're alive, I think it's perfectly fine.
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paddy
WR Officer
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Account Executive
Your rationale for going vegan shouldn't be predicated on bullshit propaganda pushed by PETA. That being said, I've heard a vegan lifestyle is healthy and has helped numerous people I know achieve a better life. So yeah, go for it, there's a lot of upside, but don't do so because you were persuaded by PETA. 
poweredbycaffeine
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Bean Juice Drinker | Sales Savant
Yes, the organization that kills family pets that they steal from people's yards. Trust them with your endocrine system.
paddy
WR Officer
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Account Executive
terrorists
The.Machine
Politicker
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Sales Development Lead
True. 

Orgs like PETA have their place though. Don't think that I or many of those who chose this path would even be aware of what happens behind the scenes. 

But surely, being vegan solely on their propaganda is a dumb thing to do. 

Sometimes I feel like I should stop giving a shit and do whatever the F. 
Opal
Arsonist
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Crocs Model
You will spend considerably more on groceries due to the volume of food you have to consume. My advice, try being vegetarian first. Also, after being vegetarian for a year I went back to eating meat but I only (to the best of my ability) buy from local, organic producers who are verified humane farmers. I can live with myself knowing I'm supporting high quality farming and not factory farms where animals are disregarded.
TheSolicitorGeneral
Politicker
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Small Market AE
Some of the things that PETA decries in regards to the food industry is valid; factory livestock typically have a poor QOL and seeing them mistreated pisses me off like none other (Grew up on a farm with livestock). That said, do some research into animal products where they openly advertise good living conditions for their animals. The products I've found are more expensive, but they're better tasting and better quality IMHO. Plus, I can rest at night knowing that I've done all I've could to support businesses that give these animals as close to a normal life as possible. 

tl;dr: Don't buy meat from shit head companies if you're going Vegan because of PETA. There are ethical companies out there.
The.Machine
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Sales Development Lead
Farm Fed meat is the best that we can do, in terms of making sure that we're having the healthiest form of meat possible and also to give those animals a great life. 

Real challenge is definitely identifying genuine brands though. 
Incognito
WR Officer
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Master of Disaster
watch the netflix documentary "Game Changers"

I did it for awhile - I DID feel amazing! But it's super hard to keep up with. I also cannot process legumes well, which is kinda mandatory.

Also - I had incredibly severe bleeding ulcers for awhile (stress + booze) and got extremely anemic and needed to be hospitalized. I went back to eating red meat because I needed it to build back my blood. You can do it with beets and things but I was in a really bad way for months. I'm still not fully recovered. 

That being said, my best friend is "pescatarian", but kinda vegan. As she says, just try your best. There are no vegan police. If you eat something not vegan you're not going to die or get in trouble. 

It's also a myth that being vegan is more expensive. It just takes more time and you need to meal plan. 

PETA is also problematic. 
The.Machine
Politicker
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Sales Development Lead
Game Changers I did watch and it is very eye opening for sure. Although there were a few things in it which aren't proven completely but were still mentioned. 

Glad that you went back to meat and sticked to what suits your body the best. I read somewhere that the best kinda diet is something that you're used to since childhood. 
sales4lyf
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Business Development Manager
First off, PETA is probably the most problematic pro-vegan organisation out there, they take their extremism to dangerous lengths, although I believe their intentions began as good, now they are corrupt and just a little TOO out there! But that's that on that.

I'm vegan, and for me, it's for the animals and the environment, I believe that the meat and dairy industries are inhumane and harmful to the world as a whole. That being said, I would never try to force my beliefs on someone else, it's all a personal choice. If anyone wants to know my opinions, wants advice or wants to understand my motives around veganism then I'm more than happy to share, but if not, eat what you want and live your life and I'll do the same!
Santipodero
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Sanix
I like your opinion, you are absolutely right
sales4lyf
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Business Development Manager
Thank you!
The.Machine
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Sales Development Lead
It's great to know your thoughts on this. And I 100% agree on the PETA opinion. 

Are there some educational resources you might wanna share on veganism? Some cookbooks, books, YT channels? 

Would love your help. 
sales4lyf
Politicker
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Business Development Manager
I'd really recommend the book 'Bosh! How to Live Vegan' it's super informative on the world as a whole and how we can make little changes in our day to day life, whether that be eating vegan once week or going vegan full time, or literally just drinking plant based milk! 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/BOSH-How-Live-Vegan-eco-friendly/dp/0008414106/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=bosh+how+to+live+vegan&qid=1624375316&sr=8-1


My favourite vegan cookbook is '15 Minute Vegan' by Katy Beskow, it's packed with some really great recipes that are super unrestrictive, also there's some recipes in there that can help you 'Vegan-ise' your current meat / vegetarian recipes - it's fab! Super easy to follow as well! 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/15-Minute-Vegan-modern-cooking/dp/1849499632 


In terms of education I'd definitely recommend the following docs; Blackfish, Seaspiracy, Cowspiracy and What The Health. As far as I know, they're all available via Netflix or Amazon Prime

Also, the VeganKind Supermarket is fab for finding alternatives, they also have recipes, blogs and news in the vegan world!  https://www.thevegankindsupermarket.com/

I hope this helps!! :) 
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poweredbycaffeine
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Bean Juice Drinker | Sales Savant
I went full vegan for a few months last year to see what would happen...and I ended up having to increase my food volume a ton to feel full. Then I found out my body cannot process beans all that well, which is the main source of vegan proteins, so I ultimately fell off the bandwagon and went back to a pretty veggie-heavy diet. Meat 1-2 times a week, seafood 1 time a week, but lots of veggies otherwise.
The.Machine
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Sales Development Lead
It still sounds like a very healthy diet, regardless of you being a vegan..so more power to you! 

The best protein sources are pea protein and soy for vegans. Beans are lil carb heavy. 
Justatitle
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Senior AE
A vegan lifestyle is a healthy lifestyle if your body can handle it. It’s also expensive and your constantly getting fresh veggies and fruit. I could never do it but the friends I have that do it say they feel amazing all the time. Might just be them pushing their lifestyle but I wouldn’t change based on a narrative that’s it’s bad. Those animals are bred to be food. They’d never be alive if it wasn’t for the food industry.
The.Machine
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Sales Development Lead
"Animals being bred to be food." That statement in itself is so scary. 

Why would you eat something that's being raised unhealthily? 

Even a Lion and other carnivores prefer hunting healthy animals. I don't have a problem with meat on ethical grounds cuz I understand the circle of life. 

But I just can't eat meat which isn't farm fed. 
Justatitle
Politicker
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Senior AE
When I say bred to be food I mean the reason that someone is raising them is with the intention of turning them into food. Doesn’t mean they’re being genetically modified. I’m saying that without the demand the animals wouldn’t be bred. 
GDO
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BDM
I need meat in my meals. I’m just not capable to live without it. So power to you if you can.
The.Machine
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Sales Development Lead
Haha. I feel ya. 

I used to eat loads of meat and then transitioned. The change was good for me and maybe that's why I sticked. 
WCK
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Padre de Tequila
I mean personally, do some blood work and diet tests. See what foods your body reacts to best, which one's it doesn't, and use that to shape your diet and future intake. Don't do it based on propaganda by PETA, but because it's something that will genuinely benefit you with reasoning behind it.

Being vegan is great for many people. Others, not so much.
The.Machine
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Sales Development Lead
Yeah that sounds like a good idea. 

Although I'm a lil sensitive when it comes to killing so idk how to tackle that. 
WCK
Politicker
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Padre de Tequila
Circle of life. YOU don't have to kill, but understand that exchange of life-force is how everything survives, plant or animal. Something has to die for something else to live. You can support humane options both in the animal world and outside of.
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CuriousFox
WR Officer
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Needer of Life Alert
Hey if you want to go Vegan then do it. Fuck reasoning other than you want to. 

Your grocery bill prolly gonna go up a lil. 
The.Machine
Politicker
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Sales Development Lead
After listening and reading to all the reasoning, that's the only thing makes sense lol. 
SaaSguy
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Account Executive
I did it lost like 40 pounds and got super skinny. I wouldn't do it again, I lost all my muscle mass and was pretty much skin and bones 
The.Machine
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Sales Development Lead
Were you tracking all your macros? Or were you having a hard time keeping up with the Carb:Protein ratio? 
HappyGilmore
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Account Executive
Going Vegan isn't for me (I love meat too much haha), however I've heard and know people who are Vegan and have seen some good results from it. 
The.Machine
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Sales Development Lead
It's great that you're self aware and don't put others down for deciding what they want. More power! 
DrSmallprint
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Account Executive
I respect that you are following your conscience, that being said you might want to try Vegetarian first. The lifestyle is MUCH easier and while the science is a little hazy, it might be healthier. 
The.Machine
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Sales Development Lead
I am a vegetarian turned meat eater turned eggetarian lol. I was vegetarian since I was a kid and I only turned a meat eater because of the circle of life. 

Science says that eating unhealthy meat is vv bad. And guess what, until meat is farm fed, it's is mostly being injected with various other things and that's why I left it.  
JuicyKlay
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AM
Do it but don't become a vegan snob! I am vegan 24/7 at the house but if I go to a restaurant, wedding, event, etc... I have no problem eating and enjoying non-vegan options. I'd say 85% of my diet has been vegan this year and it's been amazing.
The.Machine
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When you say non-vegan, you mean vegetarian with diary and eggs or it includes meat as well? 
looper1010
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No judgement but I wouldn't do this full time.  I don't might being a part time vegetarian (flexitarian)
The.Machine
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Sales Development Lead
You mean like a social non-veg eater? 
looper1010
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Account Executive
If necessary.  I also don't mind being vegetarian one day a week like ppl who practice meatless mondays
NoSuperhero
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BDR
I've been a vegetarian for 6 years now, and my best advice before you do anything is to read a book called Eat for your Type, which will give you in detail which diet would best suit you due to your blood type, and the research to back it.

After that go about it as it you feel. Also, a plant-based diet is just as good. I mean for me the biggest problem is deforestation and the unnecessary factory-style livestock farms that are simply ridiculous now. In Colombia, which is where I live, eating meat also indirectly finances criminal organizations like guerrillas and paramilitaries who practically burn and slash the amazon rain forrest. So there's that on top of all that.  So idk, for me it's just a way for me to talk about the real problem, not so much about animal cruelty. If I could hunt, I would.

If you want to learn how some athletes go about plant-based diets watch Game Changers. 
The.Machine
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Game Changers had some propaganda behind it for sure. They producer who funded the movie has his own big chain of vegan food. Although athletes turning vegan does make sense and is definitely fascinating. 

More power to you for your lifestyle and decisions!   
NoSuperhero
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BDR
Thank you The Machine (kinda feels like I'm speaking to bert kreishner hghahahaha, Best of luck buddy!!
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wahmsales
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SDR
I wouldn't do it. I know a woman in her 30s whose mom was a vegan and raised her vegan. Now this woman has 3 vegan kids of her own and her health is going down the toilet. The 3rd generation vegans have health problems like enamel hypoplasia and an eye pupil that doesn't stop dilating. 
They have always eaten super healthy, everything from scratch and they take all kinds of whole food supplements - they're not the Oreo and Taco Bell bean burrito kind of vegans.
Anyway, the woman decided to add a bit of meat back to her and her kids' diets and things are improving.
The.Machine
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That's really interesting. I'm pretty sure they were deficient of something or the other. 

Were they undergoing routine tests for deficiencies and other things?
wahmsales
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SDR
She did get tested to make sure she was getting enough of everything. Not sure if she had her kids regularly tested too.
SaaSam
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Vegetarian and vegan diets dont come without animal deaths. In fact one could argue more animals are killed as a result of clearing land and managing rodents to keep them away from crops. At the end of the day you won't avoid "blood on your hands". You want the most humane diet? Take up hunting. Hunters are the largest contributors to conservation efforts than any other group. The meat is guaranteed hormon and antibiotic free. You appreciate the value of the meal more. Its cheaper. The list for the benefits is virtually endless.
funsales22
Politicker
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SDR
I think it is a very personal decision. I went vegan for a year and did feel better overall and felt that I had more energy and was more like myself. I did not find it that hard to do but did miss eating a variety of food because I found myself eating the same thing each day. I now eat eggs, fish, and chicken. You can always try it and see how it goes for you. 
Santipodero
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Sanix
I just found out that vegan day just happened, it was on November 1. Veganism was born as an expression of respect for life and the rights of animals, but today the collateral effects of this philosophy have an unsuspected scope, since not using animals benefits our planet, animals and people. All the benefits generated by this philosophy and lifestyle is what is making veganism grow in an impressive and irreversible way. Every day there are more vegans and people in transition towards it. Would you like to be vegan?
SaleswithaY
Opinionated
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BDR
If you're all about discipline and like the idea of limiting your choices for a set of beliefs - go for it! 

If you're doing it because some social media warriors are trying to convince you that you "should" - stay away 

You do you buddy, just make sure it's for you - it's your health at the end of the day 
Opal
Arsonist
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Crocs Model
Did you go vegan?
jwils
Politicker
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Team Lead
blech. 
inboundsalesrep
Politicker
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SDR
As a meat eater don't do it 
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