Would you pay $4,000 to be trained by the Wolf of Wall Street?

Ok so I now we already talked about this. 95% of you said no to a sales coach bc they are washed up. But I just stumbled upon a company while cold calling that is actually Jordan Belfort AKA the real Wolf of Wall Street that the movie was made after, apparently he is actually a sales trainer and considered the best.


So now I'm scrolling his site and checking it out, he has 150-400$ kits and a comprehensive $4000 program too.


Never afraid to invest in myself and learn something more, open to buying all the books, learning from experience, and learning from others. Now I know most of you are already top reps and salespeople's


Anyways would be curious to know your thoughts, did you even know that he was a sales coach now? is he washed up? what would you do? Have you done anything by him? How annoying am I? Dad? Dad I need 4k, can I use your card?


**Side note I asked my company to front the 8K for Marcus, they were not game, even though my sales coach quit. Alternatively they handed me someone from marketing as a 'new sales coach' and gave me 2 weeks to get some results or feedback, going into week 2 planning on shitting on them lmao.


His program for 4k:


  • 12 Modules - 75+ Lessons
  • Interactive Technology - Field-tested, Field-proven
  • Private Social Network w Online Coaching
  • Valuable Resources - Script Builder and Rebuttal
  • Financial Freedom - Close more deals


His links:


https://jb.online/


https://jb.online/products/straight-line-sales-certification

Did you know the actual Wolf of Wall Street coaches salespeople?

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hh456
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For the love of fucking god just message me on linked in. I’ll save you so much money.
AessK
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SDR
call this angry cinnamon toast square with a Wendy's hat stat. 
hh456
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sales
This guy is a top performer now. Deadass no cap.
SADNESSLieutenant
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Officer of ♥️
ring ring
Smilesndialz
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SDR
Lmao what’s your LinkedIn, I can use some mentoring
hh456
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2
sales
kitchennightmares
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Line Cook
What's your LinekdIn? I'm interested and am trying to leave the food industry.
hh456
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sales
newboy
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Complete Sales team
@GrizzleMcThornBody didn't find your linkedin here so onto your profile trying to get a cue!
playerone
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Regional Account Executive
I hate that people think that is a sales movie. The dude was lying and scamming people. He wasn’t good at sales. Being great at sales is getting the deal when you’ve been completely transparent and they buy anyways!
SADNESSLieutenant
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+1
poweredbycaffeine
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☕️
No. Expense denied.

For real, the only JB you should pay attention to is John Barrows.
EasyTechGuy
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Sales Development
This ^^1000% percent..
SADNESSLieutenant
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but daddddddd
Urbanachiever
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AE
Lol love that fool. On day 2 of jb training he was visibly hungover, sat on the counter holding his knees and said “so what questions you got for me today” 😂😂😂
SaaSholeengineer
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Sales Engineer
I told you this answer before: leave your current company since they’re not investing in you. I don’t give a shit if you’re going to be there from the ground up and potentially build the team out. You’re not ready. Find a larger company that is willing to train you. You need to find a manager or mentor to do this for free instead of paying some idiot $4k. If you want, pay me $4k and I’ll tell you you’re doing a good job every 30, 60, 90 days
SADNESSLieutenant
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Officer of ♥️
Yeah, just don't want to prove dad right
CuriousFox
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Scammers gonna scam 🤷‍♀️
SADNESSLieutenant
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lol
Filth
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Watch the movie, talk to some pros here, and learn via trial by fire. More conversations, more fails, equals more learning.
SADNESSLieutenant
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+1
Filth
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Live Filthy or Die Clean
I like your new title. I know my mom was satisfied yesterday so you must be doing something right.
Sunbunny31
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Guy is bad news. It’s a no from me.
SADNESSLieutenant
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Thanks
braintank
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Enterprise Account Executive
Has he sold anything but himself in the past decade? 🚩🚩🚩

Love the movie but hard pass.
SADNESSLieutenant
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lollllll - yeah tru
TennisandSales
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Head Of Sales
dude no. 
He is litterlly a criminal isnt he? 

does he sell the type of product you sell? 

has he sold anything in the last 5 years? 

at the VERY least, find.someone.in.your.industry. 


SADNESSLieutenant
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He is a criminal lmao.
bellaccione
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Growth Consultant
Why are you promoting this?

Is it because you think Jordan Belfort is an actual sales coach?

If so, I wonder how much time you've actually spent in sales.

Jordan Belfort is a conman, not a salesperson. Conmen superficially share traits with salespeople, but the #1 trait of a GREAT salesperson is empathy.

The ability to occupy the mind of your prospect (and feel what they're feeling).

Jordan Belfort stole money (a lot of it from elderly people), went to jail, kept the money, showed no remorse, and rebranded himself. I don't hate on him for how he makes his money, but I would NEVER hire a salesperson who looks up to him (because it tells me that salesperson doesn't fundamentally understand what sales is).

SADNESSLieutenant
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I'm not promoting it im asking for opinions
1nbatopshotfan
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Sales
Better value to lighting the money on fire, in my opinion. 
SADNESSLieutenant
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ngl lighting money on fire is a felony but its fun
CuriousFox
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Venmo me. 
SADNESSLieutenant
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I'll venmo u anyday of the week
NotCreativeEnough
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Professional Day Ruiner
would I spend 4k for it? Absolutely not. I am curious about the content in it though. JB puts out a ton of free content on Spotify/YouTube that's actually pretty solid. As long as you can get past him blowing smoke up his own ass the whole time. Overall, I feel like there won't be any more benefit from it than you would get from reading his book that's $12. 
SADNESSLieutenant
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E_Money
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Just watch the movie.
SADNESSLieutenant
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yes manny
KingofGIF
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AE
A buddy of mine passed me hours of his materials straight outta pirate bay, and I read his book. I prob spent like an hour watching the courses and dropped them. They might be helpful if you are selling credit cards over the phone for the first time, not for tech SaaS sales to crush quota.

SADNESSLieutenant
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lol straight out of pirate bay
ABCvs
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I think you know the answer already.

There is no secret sauce. Get back to work.
SADNESSLieutenant
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+2
Justatitle
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His insights are good but you can get most of it for free on YouTube anyway
SADNESSLieutenant
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+1
jefe
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Just no
SADNESSLieutenant
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Yes manny
LightingLeader
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Why pay $4,000 on the training when you could do it yourself spending $4,000 on drugs, alcohol, and strippers.
SADNESSLieutenant
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this is the right answer
HanzoHasashi
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Associate Account Executive
I would not spend money unless I already went through the free stuff first. 

Currently doing that right now cause most of the people in my org think they don't need it (gives me an edge over them).

JB stuff is good but it's not technical overall. My focus would mainly lie in Sales Enablement and Analytics cause if you manage your territory data effectively, you can allocate your resources better when doing Blitz and outreach.

As always, DYOR :)
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trutru
sketchysales
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Sales Manager
By all accounts, my opinion of sales trainers is they are all people who failed at actually selling so they have to talk about it because its the next best thing to them.  I make no exception with JB, he sold but he did it illegally and that makes him a bad sales person by every principle in the game.  There are more than enough free resources out there and the rest is learnt in the school of hard knocks.  
SADNESSLieutenant
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good point
Smilesndialz
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Buy his book “The Way of the Wolf”. It’s the course condensed into a book for the price of lunch.
SADNESSLieutenant
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ty sexy
Smilesndialz
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He doesn’t teach you the strategy that landed him in prison. It’s an ethical way to sell.
Aurelius
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I would not drop 4k on that, yet again I only make 3k a month at this point. Is sales training worth it? I'm hoping to get into an organization that has mandatory good sales training as far as them directing you to create your own personalized methodology that works for you. I wouldn't want to be a script robot asking the same questions over and over like a checklist to each prospect. I prefer a fluid off-the-cuff conversation, if it works out, then it works out. Otherwise, disqualify and move on. 
SADNESSLieutenant
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yeah prettyy much agree w you there
DustFrog
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I'd let him pay me $4k.
SADNESSLieutenant
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big brain
SalesPharaoh
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Just No man...i haven't been active for a while cause I had a rough Q but again that is worth me coming back and saying no. Pay me that 4k ill do your job alongside your for a month
SADNESSLieutenant
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ok dm me
SalesPharaoh
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😀 :) 😀  look for me on LinkedIn ;)
SADNESSLieutenant
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ok whats your name
SalesPharaoh
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Don't think it is allowed to share but i have Bravado on my profile membership and my handle can help you filter it out ;)
SADNESSLieutenant
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OH OK, yeah same
10XQLA
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Not a fan at all, very obnoxious, just check out his YouTube channel before committing. His sales method is called the "Straight Line " method  of  selling. I was never a fan of any trainer who claims that their method works regardless of what vertical you sell in, it's just not possible or truthful. Good Luck savages!!!!
SADNESSLieutenant
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appreciate it
allbayallday
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No. No. No. Message me on LinkedIn. I've done all of these trainings and your time and money would be better spent on timeshares or ponzi schemes. 
SADNESSLieutenant
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ok dm me
Supersize
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Digital Sales Director
He is serious piece of shit. A depraved sociopathic mother fucker. If you want that as a coach, then yeah, pony up the 4k.
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I hear sociopathy is the name of the game
The_Sales_Badger
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Account Executive
Nah - I can figure out ways to do sketchy stuff on my own.
SADNESSLieutenant
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'can i have your opinion on some research im conducting?' :)
Updmamt
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If you are in a business of scamming clients, go ahead
SADNESSLieutenant
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it's only a scam until they realize they need us more than they do