Any house flippers here?

I've been sitting on a large pile of money, by my standards, and have been looking at getting into real estate. Few places I have my eye on and the idea is really to own and rent them out rather than fix up and sell. However, I've got my eye on one property that seems to need some work but would be lower risk to get into due to its lower cost.


What do you look for in houses you plan to fix up? Do you contract out all of the work or do it yourself? What kind of work do you recommend contracting out vs handling yourself bearing in mind that the university of google is going to play a big part in anything I do myself.

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antiASKHOLE
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I really think that now might not be the best time to do so. with the cost of everything up so high right now, you wouldn't be flipping much
SaaSam
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Oh damn. Good point. I didn't consider that. My thoughts were all on current housing market and interest rates which I decided weren't a real concern since I'm not looking to buy and sell so refinancing would take care of interest rate issues and all of my market research has suggested that the housing market isn't going to drop enough to make much of a difference for my bottom line. Plus, everything points to housing going the way of the ride-sharing market where the majority of housing is going to be owned by businesses and I'd like to get in before that becomes a reality.

You just answered my unasked question by pointing me to the reality that "fixer uppers" aren't the direction I want to go and will be focusing more on "move-in ready" homes.

Thanks!
saaskicker
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You will find a better answer/insights with a question like this on Reddit or Twitter, my $0.02.
SaaSam
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I don't doubt it, I just simply don't have a twitter or reddit and don't really plan on getting either. Not much for social media. Plus, I'm really looking for the opinion of someone in a similar position to myself who daylights as an AE and does real estate on the side since that's what I'm looking to do.
saaskicker
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fair - reddit would be worth it. less "social media" and more lurking for information.
saaskicker
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https://www.reddit.com/r/HouseFlipper/ - 21k members just chatting about house flipping.
SaaSam
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Thanks! Going to check this out
activity
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VP, Business Development
Do not get into Real Estate right now. I have a ton of people I know in the industry right now and they are saying to wait anywhere from 12 to 24 months before considering to invest.
braintank
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There are better ways to deploy a large pile of cash IMHO
Maximas
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Senior Sales Executive
I'd rather contracting out all of the work TBH.
Diablo
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I would just buy it, contract it and put on rent. I outsource what I cannot do myself :)
FinanceEngineer
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Unless you have experience and can put your own work into it, I would avoid it. Invest in others that do it and you will cover your exposure.
CadenceCombat
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Account Executive
House flippers can kick rocks.
CuriousFox
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You know, we used to have a few in here. I haven't seen them in quite some time.
Lambda
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If you have no contracting experience or contacts in the industry I would not get into fix and flip but and hold/rent is the strategy I am using. I’m going to be transitioning into the trades And building a skillset to add to the duplex that I have

Best thing might be to find a 4 plex
3% down, live in one unit then rent out the other 3 for a year then leave and rent out the 4th

If I was starting over this is what I would do
Sunbunny31
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Exactly what my former landlord recommended. And you work up from there.
DataSlangah
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What is your time worth. If it is less than contracting, do the work, if your time is worth more than the contracting. Hire out. But you have to be honest about how much money you are making an hour. If you don’t make money outside of your work, you earn $0 /hr.
UserNotFound
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I grew up in a family that owned apartment complexes + other single family residential long term rentals. (My family’s portfolio is currently 25ish apartments in a complex and +/- 8 single family homes) I will NEVER go down that path- when my parents die I’m selling all of them.

If you’re gunning for real estate consider vacation rentals. No evictions to worry about, Discrimination laws, fights over security deposits, Etc.
SaaSam
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Interesting. Sounds like an impressive portfolio that I imagine provides an even more impressive income. You don't think it's worth it?
UserNotFound
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Not at all. It’s stressful AF… I do plan on investing in vacation rentals bc I know someone who owns a handful (~5) and makes MORE in profit than my parents do across all their properties.
ChumpChange
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Yeesh! I have a circle of friends that are active in both the commercial/residential real estate space and they're all shitting bricks because of the interest rates. Money isn't cheap anymore and it's scaring people away from investing. If it's your first flip, I would recommend doing it with a seasoned flipper. Yeah, you're going to split the profit but they'll teach you a ton of stuff that you wouldn't know until shit hits the fan.
SalesPharaoh
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When there is blood ok the streets start buying
Hoopnip
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There’s deals to be had in every market … it just takes a lot of research and little bit of luck. I would definitely sub contract all work on your flips and learn how to manage the projects by watching what needs to be done. Once you get a gauge on what cost of materials and labor are, you can find out pretty easily if you are getting ripped off by your subs. Just takes experience and lots of conversations with people that flip. Go to networking events and meet other people in the business. Always buy a flip at a 20-30% discount ….finding this is the hardest part since there is a lot competition.
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