Friends Who Work at Competitors

One of my friends work at my company's main competitor. Basically every deal we compete against each other. However, I am never competing on deal against my friend since he sells to a different industry.

I have never asked or talked specifics on deals with him. One I don't like to talk about work and also I feel like it's wrong at times.

Has anyone used their network at competitors to gain more competitive info? 
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Pachacuti
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
I think you are right to not solicit information from your friend, but if he mentions something off hand, that is on him not on you.
Gasty
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War Room Community Manager
I want to. Especially for lead gen. But something inside keeps shouting at me:

𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐚𝐢𝐧'𝐭 𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭! 𝐘𝐨𝐮'𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐞 𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐠𝐡𝐭! 𝐃𝐎𝐍'𝐓 !!!
TennisandSales
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Head Of Sales
i wouldnt talk about specific deals but i would for sure be asking how they do certain things.

if there is a certain feature or functionality they have in their product that comes up alot I would ask him to explain how it works. i see no problem with that.
jefe
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Best to keep it separate, I'd say. Church and state..
SaaSam
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Account Executive
Simply don't ask for any info that you wouldn't be willing to give him about your company. I would totally leverage a friendship like that. As long as you're willing to reciprocate, I don't see any issues.
Kosta_Konfucius
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Sales Rep
Absolutely agree with this
antiASKHOLE
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Bravado's Resident Asshole
I just keep work at work and don't talk about it in my social circle unless provoked. Even then, I don't give specifics.
BadColdCaller
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Account Executive
Probably ethical to not compete against your friend, would leave it be for peace of mind
FinanceEngineer
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Sr Director, sales and partnerships
Always. You can ask “how much are you charging for integration on deals like these” or “discounts killing your take home?” You find out who they are selling to and how. You will give a little as well, but not much. It’s a professional curtesy and you might be working for the competitor some day so you want to be seen a good person to work with.
Kosta_Konfucius
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Sales Rep
I have looked at it as exhanging ideas at times. Like asking if its more cold calling/emails stuff like that. Nothing strategic or specific details
CuriousFox
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I have asked for contacts over departments I know they don't sell into. That's it though.
HappyGilmore
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Account Executive
I think the temptation is there as I have a couple friends that work at direct competitors, but feel its not the right thing to do to make the ask (and vice versa)
LordOfWar
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Blow it up
I used to work at a company that was a direct competitor for an old army buddy of mine. We never talked about competing businesses and would make fun of each other for wins and the pains the winner had to deal with during the contract.

I'm happy not to be in that role anymore, but I don't think it ever had an effect on our relationship.
doingthehustle
Good Citizen
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Most Recently Account Director
100% I have! Especially if it’s non competing industries. It’s a mutually beneficial support system. Do be cautious to not share information that would be considered highly confidential.
SoccerandSales
Big Shot
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Account Executive
Probably best not to take the risk, especially if you care about the friend
GDO
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BDM
Never had the chance. However, if I can get an edge why not
Coffeesforclosers
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Director Sales and Market Development
No need. Also ex-friend, i dont talk to my competitors, *punds chest, points to sky, kisses hand to deuces* kidding, but no need to soil any friendship and put anyone in that spot
ChumpChange
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Channel Manager
I have a buddy that works for my direct competitor. He spills all the beans cause they treat him like shit. I never ask... he just simply lets it out as a venting session.
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