Is this the honest truth?


Came across this on LinkedIn (this person is getting roasted in the comments for this), and wanted to get the WR's thoughts on if this was "the honest truth" around sales people being laid off.

Feel like in the last couple of years there's been plenty of good sales people laid off who are as good at their job as one would believe.



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RandyLahey
Politicker
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Account Executive
Lazy ass post to farm engagement.
I was laid off last Christmas, but was not performing. A few of my colleagues, however, that were included in that round had all had monster years.
A lot of it is politics and how well you can spew the company drivel.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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🦊
Somebody buy this man a wok 🔥
RandyLahey
Politicker
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Account Executive
Hit me over the head with it. My typos have been accumulating; straight forgetting words.
Fenderbaum
Politicker
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Retired Choirboy🪕
Ha! 🤓
HappyGilmore
Politicker
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Account Executive
There's always company politics. I was laid off last November, middle of the pack but nothing performance related just good ole company layoffs.
Rosie
Catalyst
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Sales Director
This is so accurate
antiASKHOLE
Tycoon
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Bravado's Resident Asshole
Yeah… no. The honest truth is that the leadership projects unreal forecasts against recession and inflation then keep spending money on stupid shit instead of investing it into their moneymakers and then there just happens to be a “loss”.


Sure some of the salespeople were shit and they probably deserved the layoff or being fired. Overall, they can’t pin all of it on how things turn out. Shit happens in the world and sales get hit because of it.


“War breaks out: cutting off supplies”. Ooo damn, sales suck because they don’t have a product to sell anymore…. Fuck that.
Kosta_Konfucius
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Sales Rep
I have seen a president club winner get laid off 2 months after the trip, anything is possible.
Assuming a large company acts rational and doesnt let go of good employees, is a very naive idea
CloseItOG
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GTM Sales Leader
I have!
HappyGilmore
Politicker
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Account Executive
Have seen that as well which is always mind-blowing when pres club winners get let go.
HVACexpert
Politicker
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sales engineer
About the money then, can’t afford them anymore
Kosta_Konfucius
Politicker
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Sales Rep
Happens a lot with PLG companies think the top sales reps don’t do anything they just close the inbound
oldcloser
Arsonist
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100% horseshit
Space_Ghost20
Valued Contributor
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Account Executive
The "isn't as good at their job as they might have you believe" is doing a lot of work in that post.

My general rule is if you weren't on a PIP and you got let go, it's on the company, not you. You can't fire someone for performance, when you never told them they weren't performing (or in fact told them the opposite). And that's not even mentioning mitigating factors like poor market fit, poor territory, poor rep fit (not everyone can be successful selling everything at every time).


JCG139
Member
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Enterprise SDR
Literally got fired today for performance when I had 80% attainment for the year and wasn’t on a pip
HappyGilmore
Politicker
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Account Executive
Holy cow I’m sorry to hear this. Sad they did this and pulled the rug out. The WR is here to help in any way we can.
HappyGilmore
Politicker
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Account Executive
Totally, and more often then not the company tends to get in the way of a rep growing their career within said compnay
Fenderbaum
Politicker
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Retired Choirboy🪕
The honest truth is this white T-shirt (v-neck) wearing twat hasn't amounted to jack squat.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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Twat did you say 😏
jefe
Arsonist
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BOLOGNA
Fenderbaum
Politicker
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Retired Choirboy🪕
M-M-My Balogna...
Diablo
Politicker
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Sr. AE
He deserved to get roasted. There are so many reasons why someone gets laid off and it’s not everything related to performance.
HappyGilmore
Politicker
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Account Executive
Performance is 1 of about 250 reasons why someone gets laid off at the end of the day.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
Sure, there's always room for a good salesperson. But what if you need 1 and you hired 10? I just can't even.
Rosie
Catalyst
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Sales Director
I was 300% over quota and I got laid off; a colleague who was friends with the CEO and was not bringing any revenue didn´t get laid off.. Explain that.
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Retired Sales Professional
He must have gotten laid off. 😂🤣
HVACexpert
Politicker
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sales engineer
Not the truth, I know plenty of really good sales people, award winners, who have gotten laid off. Lazy ass LI post
HappyGilmore
Politicker
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Account Executive
Was probably wanting tons of comments to boost his spot on the LI algorithm
wolfofmiami
Opinionated
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That’s how it used to be at least, companies now cut marketing and sales teams first
HappyGilmore
Politicker
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Account Executive
If companies were smart they'd cut HR first, they're simply seat fillers in any organization.
wolfofmiami
Opinionated
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Agreed, recruiters should be the first to go tho. Literally if they pause hiring what are they doing? And that job can easily be outsourced to external recruiters or just put it on team managers.
goose
Politicker
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Sales Executive
I mean… I wouldn’t lay off a top sales rep.
Justatitle
Big Shot
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Account Executive
And just what and where does this asshat work?
HappyGilmore
Politicker
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Account Executive
asshat is probably working in some made up role for an org or himself.
Justatitle
Big Shot
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Account Executive
out of his moms basement, sick burn
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Retired Sales Professional
To many variables of why someone get laid off, one is unrealistic quotas, 2 is mediocre managment. But this guy should be laid off just for this post.
HappyGilmore
Politicker
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Account Executive
🤣 so true
J.J.McLure
Politicker
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Owner at *redacted*
I want to call out my old company so bad! They had to let 1/2 the sales staff go along with lots of others because they are horrible at running a business and are just about at the point of bankruptcy now.

Sales team was bringing in too much business, they couldn’t manage inventory and invested in all the wrong areas and it’s blowing up spectacularly
HappyGilmore
Politicker
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Account Executive
I've thought about that too, but decided to hold my tongue.
Said company that rounded me up as part of their layoffs went through 2 more rounds of layoffs, sinking their company culture, losing top customers to competitors, and publicly called out recently on LinkedIn. They've got enough on their plate to deal with before I run my mouth 😂
J.J.McLure
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Owner at *redacted*
did we work for the same place?? I legit thought there was a chance for a minute, but from what your profile shows I don't think we did
Pachacuti
Politicker
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
I got laid off from a big wireless carrier when I was hitting full quota. It happens.
pirate
Big Shot
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🦜☠️ Account Executive
Do not believe it. I think the key is to make constant noise about yourself and ask for help and try this and event this and webinar that and then also be good... I feel like being visible helps
SalesBeast
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Sales Leader
Bullshit. I was top performing rep on my team for years. They cut me because I spoke up and had big deals with big commissions about to be paid. Once they see you consistently making 300k+ they want you to limit the comp payout.
TheQueenofDiamonds
Politicker
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Account Executive
Bs , I was laid off in the past with 150% in achievements.
Coffeesforclosers
Notable Contributor
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Director Sales and Market Development
I dont buy it 100%, but there "could" be truth to it. Again could be is not factual
medhardwaredr
Opinionated
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Director of Sales NA
The original LinkedIn post is silly. There is not always a spot for talent for various reasons
SalesBeast
Politicker
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Sales Leader
This guy is a complete clown idiot.
Archie
Fire Starter
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AE
Business is complicated. Usually bottom reps get laid off but it isn’t always the case.
Lurking
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Account Executive
Sales is one of the few roles, you can create a moat against layoffs. That said my last gig they shut down our product. Not sure how you survive that.
SportsSalesGuy
Tycoon
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Enterprise Account Executive
wrong ive been laid off as a top performer before and if i was so shit why would i be at the top? makes no sense
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