frenchiemom1120

Inside Sales Representative

Why are covid vaccines still a requirement for employment?

Even for remote work, with no travel requirements, I am still seeing job postings saying it's mandatory. Mind you, I'm in FL anyways, so we are not required or have to show proof. However, I thought we were beyond this already.....

Should covid vaccines still be a requirement for remote work?

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yes - if the position requires travel no - it should be employee choice

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Tycoon

That One Guy

should not be a requirement.

TennisandSales

Politicker

Head Of Sales

at THIS point, idk if it should still be a requirement. Anyone who is going to get the vaxx has most likely already gotten it and if you havnt, you probably never will.

the fully remote jobs with no travel make the least sense to me.

and this is coming from someone who is fully supportive of the vaccine and travel restrictions in the beginning.

jefe

Arsonist

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In Canada, travel is VERY difficult without at least a double vaxx.

Efficacy has definitely grown questionable though

SADNES5

Politicker

down voters are marketing spies

I do a fair bit of int travel. I'll get boosted annually as required, just like my flu shots and everything else to keep my family safe.

CuriousFox

WR Officer

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This is a tricky conversation. I think if you're in the field you should be vaccinated. Many companies, especially hospitals, require your vaccination card to get onsite.

frenchiemom1120

Member

Inside Sales Representative

I guess depends on your area of sales 🤷🏼‍♀️ but specifically stated for remote, and no travel required so visiting clients or hospitals is not the case.

NotCreativeEnough

Big Shot

Professional Day Ruiner

covid vaccines shouldn't be a requirement for anyone ever. If the vaccine stopped it from spreading then maybe. But it doesn't. It just stops you from getting as bad of symptoms if you do get it. Getting the vaccine literally only protects the person who has the vaccine, so it should be up to that person if they want to get it or not

frenchiemom1120

Member

Inside Sales Representative

That’s how I feel. International travel, yeah ok, get it or don’t take the job because that literally is the requirement for traveling. 🤷🏼‍♀️ But if you’re staying in this country, then it shouldn’t matter. Land of the free?
I turned down a job offer last year before this one because they didn’t have that on the posting, and then at the end of the interview the woman was like “oh yeah are you vaccinated or can you be?” And I told her I never will so that was the end of that and felt like a big waste of time. They were based out of NY but the job was remote, and it didn’t matter I was in this open state 🙄
Which something ironic, since the start of covid I have been in direct contact with someone at work within arms distance - never had covid once (and not just asymptomatic because my daughter and bf would’ve gotten it) but everyone I know that has been vaccinated had covid 🤔

NotCreativeEnough

Big Shot

Professional Day Ruiner

love all the hate we're getting for not being in favor of forced vaccinations lol.

The funny part to me is, my opinion is the same on literally every single topic. Let people have the right to choose what is best for themselves and their own lives. The government, and more specifically your job, shouldn't be allowed to mandate that you do anything. That kinda falls under the whole "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" thing, does it not?

Sellerguy

Opinionated

Sellerguy

The ‘hate’ you’re getting is because you definitively claimed that vaccines don’t stop transmission. Which is patently false. I am all for not being forced to get the vax but guess what, that also means people who don’t get it need to respect the guidelines put in place. Concert venue says it’s required? Sorry, you don’t get to go. Customers office doesn’t care? Great, you can visit that one worry free. And you know what? That’s what is great about this country. People and companies have the freedom to choose how they wish to live and operate. As Americans, it’s our duty to respect those freedoms and requirements. The sword cuts both ways

NotCreativeEnough

Big Shot

Professional Day Ruiner

I agree with everything you just said. If someone chooses to not get it then they absolutely have to accept that there are consequences to that choice and that they may not be able to do everything that they want to do.

The topic of conversation though was employers forcing employees to get it, which I feel like is wrong. Your employer should not be allowed to dictate what medical treatments you choose to do or not do. Its a slippery slope once you start allowing that. And in this case, its in regards to remote workers who never have to go into an office, never go visit clients, and could spend their entire life at home without ever leaving if they wanted to.

Sellerguy

Opinionated

Sellerguy

This is misinformation. For one, the vaccine does reduce transmission (try googling this as an unbiased question, I just did). Two, one way in which it reduces transmission is exactly what you said: it stops you from getting as bad of symptoms. With less severe symptoms comes lowered probability of spreading it.

Pandemic is still here. Vaccines should be required if you’re gonna be traveling and at the least you should respect what your customers require.

ADudeBeingAGuy

Politicker

Account Executive

What a spicy thread

ChunkyButters

Tycoon

Its easier to enforce a company policy across the board, than it is to make special casers for each person and have others complain about special treatments.

1nbatopshotfan

Politicker

Sales

Why hire a person who puts themselves at a greater risk for missing time because of a treatable global pandemic? It’s an easy step to minimize the company risk.

SADNES5

Politicker

down voters are marketing spies

The people who choose not to be vaxxed (for non medical reasons) are in a Venn diagram with 99.99% overlap with people who don't return their shopping carts.

As George Costanza once said "you know we're living in a society, we are supposed to act in a civilized way"

washedD1soccer

Politicker

Regional Sales Manager

Classic. Everyone else’s anti Covid vaccine opinion is wrong and you’re right so they must be stupid. My body my choice but only when it’s convenient to fit your narrative/beliefs right?

SADNES5

Politicker

down voters are marketing spies

I completely support anyone's right to choose, but it can't be born out of ignorance. The fabric of society is built upon some sacrifice for the greater good of the whole. Bring uncomfortable and not understanding vaccinations is a hill you're willing to take a stand on - that's great - your choice; you don't get to pull society down to your level due to not participating.

1nbatopshotfan

Politicker

Sales

Yes. Very simple. If you aren’t getting the vaccine you’ve not outsmarted science or are making choices that are smarter than everyone getting vaxxed. You’re basically drunk driving a moped on the highway. Sure you might get home, but the odds are not on your side, compared to the vaccinated group.

nemix

Politicker

SDR

All the people I knew who were terribly sick with COVID had the vaccine lol. Just like when I worked in the ICU and the same people who got Influenza every year were the same people getting flu shots every year.

1nbatopshotfan

Politicker

Sales

All of the data across every developed country disagrees with this. I get that anecdotal evidence matters to some people, but with a vaccinated group as large as we have, comparing to the non vaxxed data set it’s clear to see who dies here.

Sunbunny31

Arsonist

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

While we all wish it was, the pandemic is not yet actually over, so no, we're not past this just yet. However, I suspect this particular requirement may be fading away.

Some of my customers have extremely stringent requirements to go onto their campus, others don't, and I'm not going to miss out on a chance to see them. Definitely I respect what others are requiring.

frenchiemom1120

Member

Inside Sales Representative

Understandable. It is still a risk, but the requirement part is touchy. To each their own if you want it, and my mother got it but also for her peace of mind and to help if she ever got covid. Granted, I will wear a mask when need be, and especially when visiting my grandmother in their facility because I’m more concerned about any of the elderly getting it or anything else in general. But in my opinion, for myself, the risks of getting the vax outweigh the risks of not. That’s a whole other ball game I’m not gonna get into

frenchiemom1120

Member

Inside Sales Representative

Y’all are missing what the original question is about. I SAID NO TRAVEL! REMOTE! That’s all besides the point, and a whole different debate. If you are not required to travel out of the country, to meet with any clients, or go anywhere at all besides walking to your own kitchen…… THEN why should it matter?

CuriousFox

WR Officer

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Technically I AM remote. Rarely have to do a site visit. But on the off chance I have to I follow the rules of the client. Also, there was a mandate if your company did business with the government they had to be in compliance or risk losing said business. It didn't matter what your role/title was.

bassinshaps

Politicker

Territory Sales Manager

If it’s remote, why is it even the companies business if you’re vaccinated? That’s like companies asking you personal health questions that have nothing to do with your ability to perform.

SADNES5

Politicker

down voters are marketing spies

Some government contracts/deals require if you're doing business with them your company needs to be vaxxed. Easier to blanket than to waste money listing expemtions.

bassinshaps

Politicker

Territory Sales Manager

Yup. Faced this issue when they were first enforcing. Thought I was going to have to give up a really good account. Things ended up working out.

Gasty

Notable Contributor

War Room Community Manager

you aren't vaccinated, @frenchiemom1120?

tightlines

Tycoon

Account Executive

My vote is no