DrMadMax

Operations Manager and Outside Sales Rep

Asked for more money, boss came back with this-

Had a difficult conversation with some upper management. I get paid well below the market average, and don't earn commission on my sales. My numbers have been out of the park, and each month I put up more sales at better margin than both of my sister branches combined.

Asked the boss for essentially an "inflation adjustment" since rising prices and market uncertainty have been killing me, and that I have the numbers to back up a little more compensation. Didn't expect a huge 10k bump, just something around 3-3.5k to help with cost of living.

Boss ruminates for 3 weeks, calls me up, and offers me an extra $150 a month on my *taxable* car allowance.

Feels good man. Bag secured.

✌️ Growing Pains

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braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

You lost me at: "I get paid well below the market average, and don't earn commission on my sales."

TreTime

Catalyst

Account Executive

Yeah right there... is this a Sales role???

DrMadMax

Valued Contributor

Operations Manager and Outside Sales Rep

I was hired into what I thought was a sales role, but it turns out their "non-commission based operations training that should only take a month" has lasted 7

saaskicker

Celebrated Contributor

Enterprise AE

sounds like marketing

tjk

Good Citizen

Sales Director

GET OUT!

CoorsKing

WR Officer

Retired King of the Coors Knights

Sounds like it is time to leave and take your talents else where, you are not valued there.

dadasaurus

Opinionated

Enterprise Account Executive

Yes, CoorsKing is right. Time to go.

CuriousFox

WR Officer

🦊

Dude. You know what you need to do.

paddy

WR Officer

Director of Business Development

Happy to berate your boss on your behalf if you'd like.

DrMadMax

Valued Contributor

Operations Manager and Outside Sales Rep

Yes please

funcoupons

WR Officer

👑

Tell ‘em deuces

DrMadMax

Valued Contributor

Operations Manager and Outside Sales Rep

I can't wait to drop that two weeks on their desk, but I'm trying to line something up before I go

UrAssIsSaaS

Arsonist

SaaS Eater

lolz

NotCreativeEnough

Big Shot

Professional Day Ruiner

it's a sales job and you aren't paid commission? Sounds like I would be using a lot of my work day updating my resume and filling out job applications... won't effect your income anyway

DrMadMax

Valued Contributor

Operations Manager and Outside Sales Rep

That's my new day to day after this exciting news

peachykeen

Politicker

sae e-commerce

A “sales” job without commission? What? Start surfing those job postings, my friend. Network.

DrMadMax

Valued Contributor

Operations Manager and Outside Sales Rep

On it as we speak

TreTime

Catalyst

Account Executive

Exit secured

SaaSam

Politicker

Account Executive

Why are you still there?

E_Money

Big Shot

💰

Damn dude... leave this job and never look back. Sounds like you would be making way better money somewhere else just based on getting paid for sales alone!

Justatitle

Big Shot

Account Executive

May I ask why you are still at this employer?

Samsamoon

Opinionated

Associate

hello are you am of marketing position as in one up time many persons of this role have also marketing title

DungeonsNDemos

Big Shot

Rolling 20's all day

I think I had a stroke reading this

aSaaSinator

Good Citizen

Sales Director

Me too! Was this person typing while riding a bicycle on a railroad track?

bandabanda

Tycoon

Senior AE Mid Market

*meep morp zeep* bot alert

Samsamoon

Opinionated

Associate

hello rude sir I am is not of bot. Very real telephon assistance business purchasing products. Are not confuse am of english not excellence for thing such. Is is of sales professional

bandabanda

Tycoon

-1

Senior AE Mid Market

@Samsamoon my apologies

Salesup

Valued Contributor

Sales Executive

Time to hit the ole Bravado Jobs tab and get yourself paid somewhere else

TennisandSales

Politicker

Head Of Sales

HA! Wow man idk why i keep getting surprised when I see shit like this but WOW im blown away.

how fucking tone deaf do you need to be??

I would ask why are they not able give you an ACTUAL raise.

DrMadMax

Valued Contributor

Operations Manager and Outside Sales Rep

Its the classic "no room in budget" bs that so many people hear every day. Meanwhile, they are ready to hire random staffing positions at 70-80k that are completely unnecessary. Its a dumpster fire from top to bottom and the fact that I've been here so long is my own fault.

bandabanda

Tycoon

Senior AE Mid Market

“Bag secured.” 😂

Not sure if you’re wanting to get in so SaaS but if so, check out Aspireship. Free training and if you pass the exam at the end, they have some legit companies you’ll get interviews with.

DrMadMax

Valued Contributor

Operations Manager and Outside Sales Rep

I appreciate the rec, ty

DungeonsNDemos

Big Shot

Rolling 20's all day

I'm confused as fuck, how is it sales if you don't get paid for your sales???
If you're selling a shit ton more than everyone else and you're getting the shaft compared to the market you should leave the company yesterday! GTFO and go make some money!

jefe

Arsonist

🍁

WHAT!?!

That is all..

AnchorPoint

Politicker

Business Coach

"no commission" no deal... seeeee ya! (the rest really doesn't matter)

Jbeans

Opinionated

Director of Sales

Late to the party here but … fuck all that. You need to negotiate for yourself. Asking for a raise is based on facts - performance and value you bring to the company Numbers don’t lie. If they know you’ll stay for such a bs offer? They won’t meet your wants. And a 10k bump? That’s not huge/ that’s what you’re worth and probably more. Go back in there when you have another offer in hand (if you want to stay) and use that as leverage . (Always be prepared to take the other offer however). Be confident and ask for what you want. I’d even ask for more than you want and have a number in mind you’re comfortable with. Or negotiate commission is another option, with a top up or plan to increase commission rates when you hit a certain target.

DrMadMax

Valued Contributor

Operations Manager and Outside Sales Rep

Appreciate this

Jbeans

Opinionated

Director of Sales

Feeling undervalued is the worst!! Trust me, I hire reps and it’s not easy to find good ones!! They will rue the day (said with fist shaking in air) 😏

SaaSyBee

Politicker

Founder

You don't earn commission?! Please get a new job.

Pachacuti

Politicker

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

and why are you still there?

DrMadMax

Valued Contributor

Operations Manager and Outside Sales Rep

Looking for something worthwhile before I peace out

Pachacuti

Politicker

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

yah, dont quit unless you have a job lined up but you had 3 weeks to get that resume out there.

Diablo

Politicker

Sr. AE

That's a sucking number, get the hell out of there if you have other better ops coming in

LittyMcGee

Good Citizen

Account Executive

Get the fuck out of there

CaneWolf

Politicker

Call me what you want, just sign the damn contract

Just fucking leave

LordBusiness

Politicker

Chief Revenue Officer

If you don’t make commission, are you in sales?

Kosta_Konfucius

Politicker

Sales Rep

Such a random counter offer, I am suprised your boss even said it

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