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I am a Sales Recruiter: Ask me Anything (nothing will offend me...I think)

Ask me anything! How can I help?

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paddy
Arsonist
+9
Account Executive
Why did you tell my grandma she'd make a great "cultural fit" at the machine learning start-up you're sourcing for?
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
Diversity & Inclusion duhhh
beachNsales
Politicker
+3
Account Executive
gold
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Skerp22
Opinionated
+3
Media Consultant
Why do you message me on LI about this awesome opportunity that I'll be a great fit for - but then REFUSE to tell me the name of the company??????? :)
GDO
Politicker
+6
BDM
This annoys me as well. Qualifying it there could be a good fit happens on both sides of the table.
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
This is what agency recruiters do (I work internally for one company so don't do that). They do that so that you don't go off and apply on your own. If you do that, then the system won't show you went through an agency and they lose out on a payment worth 20% of your first year base salary.
AnchorPoint
Politicker
+8
Business Coach
Several reasons... often, there is NO opportunity.  They find a top performer that is interested in having a conversation and then market that top performer to companies that may be interested.  And they do the same to companies... find a company that may be interested in talking to a top performer and then go find one.  Hard work and pays well.

Justatitle
Politicker
+7
Senior AE
Why do all sales recruiters use the same lines and buzzwords (hyper growth, value driver, ) jk love recruiters cause they get me jobs. 
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
I don't love most recruiters. Why do most use all of the same lines and buzzwords? Easy...laziness. 
Justatitle
Politicker
+7
Senior AE
Do you work on the agency side or are your corporate? 
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Talesfromsales
Good Citizen
Account Manager
How often do sales people leave money on the table when negotiating comp plan? Best way to avoid that?
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
It happens but it’s also hard to prove what’s too. Some reps have negotiated like a 10k sign on to cover a deal left on the table or something. No way to check it though. 

best way to avoid is to negotiate or just stay where you’re at.
poweredbycaffeine
Politicker
+7
Bean Juice Drinker | Sales Savant
Why did you join The War Room? (not snarky, fully curious about your desired outcomes/perceived value)
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
I want to contribute and help others in their journey. I have been tied to sales teams for several years. I know what most managers look for, I know what a lot of tech companies are paying reps, etc. Not here to advertise my own jobs I am hiring for or anything. Just here to listen and contribute best I can.
ARRisLife
Politicker
+3
Account Executive
Awesome. Your insight and sharing is helpful. Thank you. 
saaskicker
Big Shot
+8
AE
What's the base and OTE?
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
of...?
Opal
Arsonist
+9
Crocs Model
Do recruiters spend any time vetting the candidate to ensure they are #1 still at the company they are reaching out to and #2 aligning the job offer with their current position? 

I get a lot of recruiters hitting me up to be a BDR again and I understand I don't have years as an AE, but why would I ever want to go backwards deliberately. As for #1, I get recruiter mail reaching out to colleagues that have not been with my company for quite some time, and spending 3 seconds to read their LI would enlighten them of this fact. 
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
There are recruiters that will do a search on LinkedIn Recruiter, "select all" then do a blind InMail. There are others (like me) that specifically vets out someone's experience and will tailor messages to show that I actually looked at their profile. "How's everything going at X company? I have a friend who works there in marketing!" something like that. The blind InMails drive me nuts.
Opal
Arsonist
+9
Crocs Model
The recruiting world needs more of you. 
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eR
eRecruiter
Executive Manager
I'm an agency recruiter and was mostly in tech until the last 3 months when every single client of mine introduced me to their sales team. I cannot believe the amount of sales roles open now. 

Sooo. I too have become a sales recruiter. Given your company, what specifically is the biggest hurdle you have in finding candidates? 


Also, what's your process? I have one company that'll do 2 intvw's and done. Another that does 6... 
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
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Recruiting Director
There is a war for talent. More and more companies are hiring again so the biggest hurdle is competing with other offers. Our process is interviews with 4-5 people with 5 people absolute max.
KPIMaster
Politicker
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Enterprise Account Executive
Which technology SaaS companies are really worth selling for in the Enterprise space right now? Whats the best way to lay out a resume for a sales role?
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
Hard to answer question one--I am in the cybersecurity space but would love to hear what others think.

As far as your resume goes, include your achievements. "FY'20: 186% Quota attainment or 14 net new logos for FY21". Always include numbers. Don't make it lengthy--most sales reps should have a 1-2 pager. Don't be too wordy with a bunch of paragraphs. Aside from the resume, network with recruiters and sales managers at companies you want to work for.
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breakfasttaco
Senior Enterprise AE
How would you recommend networking specifically? 

Are you/your colleagues receptive to “Hey, I wanted to learn more about XYZ company, open to a virtual coffee?”
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SlickRick
Good Citizen
+1
Account Executive
Are you sure nothing will offend you? Everyone is offended these days so I do not believe you haha 
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
Try me.
sc
scubasteve
Valued Contributor
+3
Key Account Executive
How often do people leave money or equity on the table?
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
It’s not a shocker to me…happens often. 
dfelly
Good Citizen
Regional APAC AE
How do you view comparable experience internationally vs domestic pro or con or indifferent
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
There is not much difference. We have a pretty standard interview process across all regions
NoSuperhero
Politicker
+6
BDR
Is recruiting in other countries like idk in South America a common thing?
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
I recruit in AMER, APAC, and EMEA so ya I would say its common
NoSuperhero
Politicker
+6
BDR
Awesome, when you do recruit outside of the US what are some of the things you're looking for?
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Hudsonsmom
Opinionated
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Area Sales Manager
Why would a recruiter ghost you after a great first interview and telling you that you’ve made it to the next round of the interview process with the hiring manager?
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
Could be various reasons:

1. They thought you were a good fit but when passed to the manager, they said no. And now the recruiter is too much of a jerk to not let you know that you were no longer being considered.
2. You were back channeled which came back with back feedback and now the recruiter is too much of a jerk to not let you know that you were no longer being considered.
3. They ended up hiring someone internal and now the recruiter is too much of a jerk to not let you know that you were no longer being considered.
4. They are holding on that opening and moving the headcount to another region and now the recruiter is too much of a jerk to not let you know that you were no longer being considered.

There are probably more but these came to my mind first.
Hudsonsmom
Opinionated
+2
Area Sales Manager
Another one: Is there any GOOD way to seek out a good recruiter (like it seems you are!)? I’ve cold messaged so many, some respond but then it fizzles out. I have even sent notes directly to corporate recruiters for specific companies. What works for you when being reached out to?
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
I would say the personalization helps. It shows that you aren't just finding random people and doing the copy and paste thing. I will respond if they say something specifically about the company I work for, people they know here or if they reference a previous company on my profile and make a connection. 
FullyDiluted
Opinionated
+6
Account Director
What’s the biggest lie you told a candidate? 
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
Not to sound cliche but it really is a rocket ship 
newboy
Fire Starter
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Complete Sales team
Read through all the comments here, you mentioned you recruit in APAC

I'm from India, and want to start my corporate career in sales. (As in take my first job). What I am getting here is pushy sales, which I don't want to do.

What could be the suitable companies to look for and which skill-sets do they look for? (Can I get a role internationally?)


SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
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Recruiting Director
Are you saying you currently live in India now and want to stay in India?
Wo
Woody
Opinionated
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Business Development Executive
Can you describe what it feels like to be completely unbound by a need for personal integrity? 
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
Very though provoking question. So much, that it is taking me 10 days to even write a response. I would say it feels pretty liberating tho.
SignThis_SalesGirl
Good Citizen
Director of Business Development
Why is discussing salary and benefits so gawd damn taboo... It's like pulling teeth to get a straight answer. Or they'll post a higher salary but then when you get the offer they'll low ball you to hell saying well the rest is from commission. No bish! Salary is salary and commission is commission. Correct your postings. 
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
I am not sure. I am always very open about it. We don't post them to the description but I am open on the first call. I do initiate and ask what expectations are. If they ask me back what the range is, I will give it.
HappyGilmore
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
Generally curious to know about your cadence when reaching out/following up with those who either:
A): haven't opened any sort of InMail/emails
B): those that have opened and looked at your messages
C): those who say "now's not the right time, keep me in mind for future opportunities"
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
A: I have a sequence of 3 reach outs that I will do over the course of a month or so. They are all different templates and the last one is basically, "seems like now might not be the right time...". If I get nothing after that, I leave it be. However, if our system can get me an email address, I might go that route in case people don't check InMail's

B: In our LinkedIn recruiter account, we cannot see if you opened a message or not

C: I will thank them for taking the time to respond to my message, ask for referrals, and say that I might reach out again in a few months to see if anything has changed. I will then add a reminder in the system to follow up 2-3 months from then.
HappyGilmore
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
Ahh makes sense, thanks for sharing the cadency across these buckets!
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WCK
Politicker
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Padre de Tequila
Do you just look for titles on Linkedin that match the role you have available or do you actually do some research on people you reach out to? Genuinely curious.
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
When I do a search on LinkedIn, I use a ton of titles (Account Executive, Account Manager, Sales rep, AE, Regional Sales Manager, etc). I also filter by keywords expecially if I want someone in my space (cybersecurity). If my net is too big, then I will filter by competitor companies as well.
WCK
Politicker
+8
Padre de Tequila
And then once you find someone who fits the keywords, do you do any light research into them or do you reach out to connect and see from there if they're a fit?
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braintank
Politicker
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Enterprise Account Executive
Why should I work with you vs applying direct?
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
I am on the corporate side, not an agency recruiter so you would have to work with me either way lol. 
braintank
Politicker
+6
Enterprise Account Executive
Gotcha. Curious to get your take on 3rd party recruiters. Why should/shouldn't we work with them?
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ju
justatopproducer
Opinionated
+1
National Consultant
Can you help me find a better role that I can still kill it and make a ton of money, but also be happy?
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
Hard to say without finding out what makes you unhappy in your current and previous roles? If you are killing it and making a ton of money, shouldn't you be happy? Kind of kidding and kind of a serious question.
ju
justatopproducer
Opinionated
+1
National Consultant
I wouldn't say I am unhappy, but unfulfilled. Making a ton of money isn't the only important factor in my career. Trying to check all the boxes not just 1.  Also, when you believe in what you sell, are passionate, and put in the work, success and money follow. 


sneakysnek
Politicker
+8
SDR
What's recruiting like? Do you find yourself taking work home with you often?

Also, how often do you hire previous BDRs/SDRs for different roles? I feel like a lot of recruiters think I want to be an SDR forever.
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
Recruiting can be a grind and a thankless job but I truly love what I do. I am in a global role now so I feel like I am online constantly--whether that be answering emails on my phone and whatnot. 

The BDR/SDR question is tough. And its not the recruiter--its the managers expectations of what they want and we go out and seek it. TBH, I HATE recruiting for BDR/SDRs because its extremely hard to source candidates that want to move to a new company just to do the same role. Every now and then, we will pay a higher OTE so that's a selling point but it's tough. I don't think you want to be an SDR forever however, some companies are better with career advancement so ya, you may be an SDR now at your current company but what's the likelihood of you moving to the field? What if I were to sell you on an SDR role with a well thought out career growth track to the field? 
CCP
Opinionated
+5
VP, Business Development
I'd suggest getting promoted where you are, first. Then move on. Diagonal moves are tougher than horizontal ones. 
dryspongebob
Opinionated
+2
Business Development Manager
Have you ever turned down the opportunity to recruit for a specific role because their compensation structure was unfair? Do you always have clarity on the compensation structure before hunting for candidates? 
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
I am on the corporate side so I don't really get to turn down recruiting on a role since it's my job. I always have clarity on comp structure (especially since I recruit for 1 company). In sales, most companies I have worked at have a standardized range all across the US without much deviation.
StringerBell
Politicker
+7
Account Executive
Why should i use a recruiter? Is there a catch?
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
Agency recruiter or corporate recruiter? Corporate recruiter- no catch. Agency recruiter - all they want is 20% of your first year base salary.
ma
marginmagnate
Good Citizen
+1
Account Executive
Came to also bust the myth on Agency recruitment, there are a ton of different recruitment compensation structures at agencies - I have a different set up for each client, and in most cases for a permanent role the fee isn’t taken from your salary but added on top of your salary, you’re the one who signs the employment contract for your annual salary, if the fee is 20% you wouldn’t sign for 1 year at $120,000 but only receive 100k and get $120k the next year - our fee would be to the employer not coming out of your salary - make sense? It's an investment into hiring the right person who will hopefully last long term.
sc
scubasteve
Valued Contributor
+3
Key Account Executive
How often does a verbal offer not turn into a written offer? Why does it sometimes take so long between the verbal and written offer?
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
It’s pretty rare to not be turned into a written offer. I will say that sometimes the “verbal offer” is really the numbers that the recruiter and manager and looking to go get approved so there’s a chance someone in the approval chain could reject. 

it takes so long because of the above. People are just slow to approve.
whathaveyousoldtomorrow
Opinionated
+2
Account Executive
Why do half lead with OTE and others make you ask? For those that lead, do you want me to tell you its 50% of what I am making now? or just leave you on read? 
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
I always ask what expectations are at the end. If they come back and ask for a range then I’ll give them the range first. I think it’s just best to know what the market is at for OTE so you know how to position yourself. 
Don_Retardo
Opinionated
+1
Enterprise Account Executive
In The Nordic region in Europe, what would you offer an enterprise sales exec in base salary in your industry? 
SalesRecruiter
Acclaimed Answer
+6
Recruiting Director
If living in Sweden: SEK 1,200,000
Don_Retardo
Opinionated
+1
Enterprise Account Executive
Wow that’s a lot and this is just in base salary? What about comms? 
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