TheDude

Partnerships Lead

I discovered my colleague broke our company's code of conduct (twice). Should I whistleblow?

1) This colleague disclosed proprietary/confidential information to a LLM.

2) They never resigned from their past employer and are working two corporate jobs. As someone who used to to work three jobs out of college to make rent and shit, I get the hustle. Unfortunately, it does present a conflict of interest on various levels.

I get why they're using the LLM, but we've been told by our CTO not to use it. Our company has a formalized whistleblower policy as well in conjunction with the Code of Conduct Policy.

Thoughts?

Do I report them to senior leadership?

Attached poll

Yes No Other/comments

*Voting in this poll no longer yields commission.

🏙 Corporate Experiences

😤 Conflict Resolution

🔍 Discovery

49 comments

Sort by:

antiASKHOLE

Tycoon

Bravado's Resident Asshole

I'm leaning towards yes... It sucks, but this could spiral downward REAL fast.

jefe

Arsonist

🍁

Do the right thing..

TheDude

Politicker

Partnerships Lead

Under what pretense would you lean no?

antiASKHOLE

Tycoon

Bravado's Resident Asshole

Just on the second one, but the first is a no-no. I would just have the fear of then becoming "that guy" even if things were "confidential" or "anon", shit still gets out.

RandyLahey

Politicker

Account Executive

That fear is a tough one to get over, but should not impede you doing the right thing.

Revenue_Rambo

Politicker

Director, Revenue Enablement

I had the same thoughts. Working 2 jobs isn't that big of a deal unless they are for competing companies.
Using an LLM (even ChatGPT) when it's strictly prohibited is a big no no. Exposing your companies IP is never ok.

RandyLahey

Politicker

Account Executive

Opens the company up to massive liabilities.
And, frankly, I think many are going to start suing the living daylights out of OpenAi.

RandyLahey

Politicker

Account Executive

You gotta report this asap. Especially with a codified Whistleblower policy; if management comes across the fact that you knew and did not speak up, you will bear consequences.

TheDude

Politicker

Partnerships Lead

This exact point has been weighing on my mind.

oldcloser

Arsonist

💀

Dump the weight. Call it in.

youngsmoky

Celebrated Contributor

Senior Account Executive

It's not about tattling - it's preserving a work culture where people aren't doing shitty things they're not supposed to.

youngsmoky

Celebrated Contributor

Senior Account Executive

I had someone new taking over my closed lost deals in my CRM. They weren't totally dead, just a no for now. I took it on faith that he just didn't know and talked to him about it a few times.

After the third time, I came to my manager with a timeline and Slack receipts that showed I talked to him about it multiple times.

If he was allowed to keeping doing that, we would have all been turning on each other and cannibalizing deals. And that would make a shitty work culture.

BTQ

Politicker

Account Manager

I initially said no because I thought this was going to be something stupid like he was doing coke at a conference. Im generally against being a narc but you might have to here.

TheDude

Politicker

Partnerships Lead

We've all done stupid shit at a conference 😂😂 myself included (broke my leg drunk).

jefe

Arsonist

🍁

Almost a rite of passage

NoSuperhero

Politicker

BDR LEAD

You're probably thinking that no one likes a narc, however, there are certain things one should look out for.
Also, the second offense isn't too bad. I'm looking into providing consulting services for business development and sales on the side, and also see if I can work in business development for start-ups, that aren't in the same industry I'm in right now.
You should talk or find out a bit more on that before jumping the gun.

TheDude

Politicker

Partnerships Lead

Yea the second one is for sure on the fence. The what we don't know is whether or not they're using from our company IP at the other company.

pirate

Big Shot

🦜☠️ Account Executive

LLM as in AI? If it was that bad, company would block access to ChatGPT and many companies do. Is it in code of conduct or whistleblower one? Second one is more interesting scenario but again leadership might already be aware.

Sunbunny31

Politicker

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

I’ll argue that if you’re directed not to use something, you should be adult enough, and professional enough, to not use it.

pirate

Big Shot

🦜☠️ Account Executive

I am a rule follower so I wouldn't do it. I just think it's like using socials on computer laptop for some... They're just incapable of stopping it. No matter the policies.

Sunbunny31

Politicker

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

Understood. It’s just that if there are clear policies AND you abuse them, then you expose yourself to termination. And a particularly egregious policy violation might have immediate and severe consequences. You can’t stop everything, but employees are expected to abide by the terms of their contracts. As an employee, I pick my mild policy violations wisely. And I would never put my company at risk.

TheDude

Politicker

Partnerships Lead

I feel they use it b/c they probably missed the memo from being two busy working both jobs, and use it to keep up with work lmao

pirate

Big Shot

🦜☠️ Account Executive

Yeah could be

Kosta_Konfucius

Politicker

Sales Rep

I wouldn’t, depending on the information shared and their intention. But I would stay out of it

Sunbunny31

Politicker

Sr Sales Executive 🐰

I hit yes, but I’m more an “other”.

The LLM is troublesome, though. What happens if something does get out, and you did say nothing?

CuriousFox

WR Officer

🦊

You saw nothing 🤷‍♀️

alonzoharris

Politicker

Partner Manager

snitches get stitches

Sales rep

report it to the higher ups, u might get in trouble yourself if they get that you knew this and didn't speak up

GDO

Politicker

BDM

I would stay away. It does not impact you no?

braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

Agreed -- unless it directly impacts you then best to mind your own business

GDO

Politicker

BDM

Exactly

braintank

Politicker

Enterprise Account Executive

What kinda info are they putting into OpenAI?

TheDude

Politicker

Partnerships Lead

do you want my cc and sin numbers too

SoccerandSales

Big Shot

Account Executive

Its almost an auto-report for me. Better they face consequences than me

TheDude

Politicker

Partnerships Lead

truth

wolfofmiami

Opinionated

🐺

who cares, its not like youre the CEO. Is the company gonna go bankrupt bc hes been talking to his AI GF, prolly not. you could say something or you could let him do him and focus on yourself AKA not your problem

TheDude

Politicker

Partnerships Lead

There's a leak in our moat.

HVACexpert

Politicker

sales engineer

Does this colleague know you know? If so if he gets terminated at some point and they found out you knew he could try to drag you down with it.

It’s tough, but if you have a whistleblower policy, I would cover yourself and say something.

SaaSyBee

Politicker

Founder

Normally I'd say "snitches get stitches" but yikes those are egregious examples of wrongdoing.

Abika

Executive

Business Development Manager

You are obliged to report it. It might feel bad doing so, however, your neck could be on the line as well. It's a tough world out there and in the end.. All that matters is you and your family.

SalesPharaoh

Big Shot

Senior Account Executive

As a guy who had two jobs. I made sure there is zero conflict in the Function of the jobs which means my responsibility, the industry, and also the product. So if I do something in tech HR my 2nd job would be in real estate. This guy sounds sketchy. Like I speak openly to people about my real estate hustle and consultancy with two very different companies.
I also never shared any confidential information.

TheDude

Politicker

Partnerships Lead

Same responsibility, same industry, diff product.

SalesPharaoh

Big Shot

Senior Account Executive

Report...that is borderline corporate espionage.

Pachacuti

Politicker

They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy

Unless that person is literally hurting
Someone, I would stay away from the whole situation.

Chep

WR Officer

Bitcoin Adoption Specialist

Is the person a solid employee?

SgtAE

WR Officer

So the LLM, take any meeting recorder such as Otter ai, random reps installs the extension, jumps on a zoom call and it follows them around, you see them once or twice a week in enterprise sales.
This ai is recording and sending meetings to an LLM, should we consider that a breach of contract?

TheDude

Politicker

Partnerships Lead

Possibly, that scenario depends on the organization's policies/contracts and if is stipulated as such. Eg. if the org has an enterprise license to Gong but the BDR uses Otter because they like it more, it is the BDRs negligence that exposes the the company. If there isn't a data processing agreement in place that's been reviewed by legal, then I would yes likely a breach.

Teacher

It would solely depend on the affect the business would take as a negative advantage. If there is negative change to the company, then yes. If there is no conflict to the company, then no.

SoftCoreWareAsAService

Executive

Sales Manager

If you don’t, you’re tolerating it

Bravado is a community of trusted sales professionals endorsed by their customers.

Products

The War Room Jobs Salary Guide Tech Sales U

Company

About Us How It Works Blog Bug Bounty

Contact

Press Careers

If you are hired as a contract sales rep by a Bravado customer, we may ask you to prove access to the employee email account provided to you by that customer. This data will be shared with customers to track your sales productivity; customers can use this data to confirm you meet the minimum activity requirements to pay out your ramp stipend and commission.

TheDude

I discovered my colleague broke our company's code of conduct (twice). Should I whistleblow?

Do I report them to senior leadership?

49 comments

Related posts

Prospect agreed to meet but declined due to personal leave. He told me he'd let me know when he returned to the office, this was in November

A leasing company as a call centre client?