Recommended not to ask for feedback from hiring manager?

First time poster here. Curious on how you would handle this situation.


I was in the process of interviewing for a AE position at a company. Met with recruiter, senior recruiter, then the hiring manager. At the end of the call with the hiring manager, I asked for feedback, and if they had any hesitations moving me through the next stage of the process. I was given all positive feedback, and that the recruiter would be reaching out to me to set up a panel interview/role play with the hiring manager and their VP. So far so good.


Well, I get a text 3 days later from the recruiter saying that they will not be moving forward with me "and although they love your background, they will be moving forward with someone else for this position". I get it, not the first time this has happened, but then I asked the recruiter for "any additional feedback while I interview for future opportunities". They said hiring managers do not typically give them any more information. I then asked maybe I should reach out to the hiring manager directly and was told (again through text) "I do not recommend you doing that".


Am I out of line for potentially emailing the hiring manager, thanking them for their time and the opportunity, and then asking for any additional feedback while I prepare for other interviews? Keep in mind this is a tech company that prides itself on coachability and receiving/implementing feedback.

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CuriousFox
WR Officer
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You write them that thank you email right meow.
Justatitle
Big Shot
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Account Executive
Any super troopers reference should get 2 commish points upon being upvoted.
oldcloser
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Sr. AE
Here's what I came up with.

Hi *hiring manager's name*,
I wanted to reach out and thank you for the opportunity to interview for the open role on your team. I heard that you may be moving forward with someone else so I wish them the best in their role.
Is it possible to get some additional feedback as I prepare for future interviews? If there was something missing from my end, I would greatly appreciate learning more so I can better prepare myself for future opportunities.
Regards,
oldcloser
Arsonist
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Is it possible to get some additional feedback as I prepare for future interviews? Meh.

I don't often miss the mark when presenting, but it seems I did in this case. Can you tell me where it happened?

Then close. My opinion only, but fuck them and the polite.
FoodForSales
Politicker
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AE
Meow's the time to send it!
oldcloser
Arsonist
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You owe it to your future self to ask for it. Ask! What is the guy gonna do, not hire you? ๐Ÿซต get that feedback.
Diablo
Politicker
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Sr. AE
Just do it, full stop.
Its your right to ask, itโ€™s a different story whether they would respond. You have nothing to lose.
HVACexpert
Politicker
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sales engineer
Do it. Worst that happens is they donโ€™t respond.
Justatitle
Big Shot
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Account Executive
You should 100% ask for feedback and diffuse the ask. What I mean by that is saying that โ€œyou realize they wonโ€™t be moving forward with you, this is an ask because you are always wanting to get better as you are a student of the sales game so youโ€™d be bad at your job if you did not ask.โ€
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Global Operations Director
Sounds more like that recruiter is scared of the hiring manager.

I would 100% reach out to the manager! It could be a great way to close the loop and leave a lasting impression. Even if they don't actually reply with any feedback, you are demonstrating the desire to learn, and your sales process.

Just be careful not to come across as pushy or throwing the recruiter under the bus
AnchorPoint
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Business Coach
What do you have to lose?
Maximas
Tycoon
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Senior Sales Executive
It's too nice and efficient of you to proceed with it this way, but unfortunately it appears that's not how the way they can see it, so I urge you not keep forward with it.
As perhaps they consider that their job is already done by telling you the NO already it's gonna be just be a waste of time for em,however if you're still insisting to pursue just try sending em one last time, if still no response received though then close the last page of their book forever as their pride is absolutely a FAKE in this case, and in order not to be consider pushy for something that wasn't recommended for you to do in the first place!
DataCorrupter
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Account Executive
The recruiter sounds defensive about this relationship, but I don't understand why. Know anything more?

Something to consider: who are you more likely meet again in the future? Who is it better to leave an impression on? If you think you're likely to run into the hiring manager again, then ask him for the feedback, because he could hire you in the future. If it's the recruiter then do the opposite.

I write this thinking of few things I've seen in my career so far: if you leave an impression on a hiring manager, they can call for feedback/ideas, try to hire you at the next company, etc. It definitely does happen. Especially if you both live in the same territory where you sell.

Be careful with the recruiters though. If they work for the company, you shouldn't worry about burning that bridge. I rarely run into the exact same recruiter at different companies.

However, there are independent recruiters, who work for themselves or a specialized recruiting company. Those are the type you don't want to burn a bridge with. If they specialize in cyber security saas, and that's where you work, you want them on your side for the long haul. If you build the relationship, they can place you multiple times and advocate for you, getting you an easier interview by talking you up.

Long response, but think not only about this situation, but how it could play out in the future as well.
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