Today, I ate a big bag of turds. Self-imposed. Force fed.

February 1 was day 61 for me in the new seat. Plan fully done, top to bottom. 80+ pages of outbound sales motion creation that says, "We're gonna do it like this." Miro boards, marketing pieces, collateral, contracts, handoff pieces, every last bit of it, from scratch. C-suite players approved. Board pitch scheduled. First two sellers and 1 BDR due to land on that day.


3 weeks prior, I'm wrapping up the BDR and seller #1 when CEO/Founder says, "I'd like you to meet this dude. He was here for just 2 months a few years ago. I didn't have time to train him. But having seen your structure, I think he'll thrive in your process. Great guy. Tried to build his own CRM to keep organized when we had nothing. Meet him. I forwarded his resume. Now, don't get me wrong. It's your department, your team, you gotta like him. But do me the favor and meet him."


What I heard is not what he said. I heard, "I've got your second seller. Quit looking. You've got momentum. Let me make this easy for you. Hire this guy. Do it, bitch" So, basically dude had a seat before I meet him. I half interview him, he seems fine. Boss wants him. Been here. Gets it. Easy plug n play. Done. He's hired. Easy from here, right?


A week before his start date he asks if I could give him a $500 stipend to rent a small office because his house wasn't large enough to have a workspace. What the fuck have I done. ย Next, he's getting his computer. Person who sends them calls me. Says, dude wants a backpack.ย  A backpack? Is he going fucking hiking? I ask him why he wants a backpack? Says, "I always get those. You know with a logo on it. Also, while I have you, do you process corporate credit cards or is that an HR function?" Now I know I'm fucked. I run back to boss and tell him we're pulling the plug. Cancel offer. Kill it. Nope... we're gonna give him some time to get acclimated.


The fucking story ends exactly as you think. He never books a demo, or hits his shitty little month 1 KPIs, against no quota. Feb 28 he gets the KPI or quit note. Feb 29 he hits it. I'm pissed. But today he didn't even scare it. Terminated at EOD and was completely shocked.


"Why? Are you serious? What are you looking at? I did all that! Look at Hubspot! It's all in there. Are you kidding me?"


No, you didn't. Good luck to you. Done. The only remaining question is who is the fucking moron that hired this piece of shit in the first place? Of course it was me. I owned the whole thing. because I can't blame the boss when he clearly said it was my call... right? RIGHT! Now, i know it wasn't my call. He knows it wasn't my call. But that's not the point at all.


The only possible takeaway from this is that sometimes you just gotta eat a big bag of shit to keep peace. So we smile, swallow and waive as we parade into March. My pipe covered. it's like nothing ever happened.


Have a great weekend y'all. Don't TL;DR me. You've got nothing else to do.




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Justatitle
Big Shot
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Account Executive
Dude, he needs that backpack for his next role to carry his baggageโ€ฆ
jefe
Arsonist
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SiliconBBQ
Politicker
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The Metal Rooster
The backpack / credit card demand on the back of a $500 monthly offer stipend is wild.

Will you question the bossโ€™ call next time? Or find some way to skate around it?

that seems like a get outta jail free card on the next โ€œfavorโ€.
oldcloser
Arsonist
7
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Next time I get to do whatever I want. Just gotta be careful to listen to every word of the next ask, and wait for him to to complete his sentence before I quickly deny any request he may have, no matter what it is. Interrupting a superior can be perceived as disrespectful, you know.

You want Chinese or steak for dinner NO! NEVER AGAIN. YOURE WRONG!!
unclespacejam
Politicker
4
ur dadโ€™s brother
Broooooo whoโ€™s dipshit nepo-baby did you fire?

Ainโ€™t no fucking way that wasnโ€™t the bastard half-step-child of on of the board members
oldcloser
Arsonist
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pirate
Big Shot
4
๐Ÿฆœโ˜ ๏ธ Account Executive
Wow the metrics speak for themselves. Hope you find a good new sales person who actually does the job
oldcloser
Arsonist
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I was completely shocked that he was completely shocked he was let go. In my wildest imagination I can't see a possibility of continued employment if I'm working 9 minutes a day. He made one call, left voicemail and sent 8 email templates.
Revenue_Rambo
Politicker
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Director, Revenue Enablement
Clearly someone who wasnโ€™t smart enough to even punch up the metrics. Rule #1 of not doing shit is making it look like you are.
oldcloser
Arsonist
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Easily could have milked a week.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
In a month?!?
oldcloser
Arsonist
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That was his farewell day, a better than average effort.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
Dude was totally waiting for someone to peel his grapes.
oldcloser
Arsonist
1
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Waitโ€ฆ does that exist? I need one.
HVACexpert
Politicker
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sales engineer
In the end someone could interview great, come in with great metrics from other companies, and in the end totally suck. Sometimes you just donโ€™t know, and when your boss basically vouches for the guy , what can you do? Glad you nipped it in the ass now before he got too entrenched.
oldcloser
Arsonist
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I could have gone the principled route- the one where I put him through 6 interviews, and ultimately tell the boss I donโ€™t think heโ€™s a fit, but f itโ€™s really important to him, Iโ€™ll give it a try. That way if he fails itโ€™s the bossโ€™ responsibility.

Who the fuck am I kidding. My fault no matter what. If the guy worked out, boss gets credit. Unfair? Who cares?! Thereโ€™s always something. Shit like this used cost me sleep.
medhardwaredr
Opinionated
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Director of Sales NA
Never worked for a small company (well we were 140). Is a backpack not the norm? Figured youโ€™d want the asset protected. Luv the story tho closer! Definitely resonates with some of my experiences!
oldcloser
Arsonist
2
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No backpack for this one. A hard hat would have been more appropriate. The funny thing- last time I worked for a company big enough to have a backpack budget out of the gate - we were in office. Our Compaqs, HPs and Dells sat right on top of the desk
medhardwaredr
Opinionated
1
Director of Sales NA
lol thatโ€™s awesome. Still remember the ole compaqs. Best part about โ€˜em is there Marriott code still works great. Marriott.com-> corp code->hpqโ€ฆ boom super cheap hotel most places
oldcloser
Arsonist
1
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hpq ? Yeah? I love me a code that puts a standard Marriott on the table instead of a Courtyard. Supahhhhh! Thanks!
medhardwaredr
Opinionated
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Director of Sales NA
IBM ual probably ones I use most now
oldcloser
Arsonist
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GGL is the same as it always was- plugging yours in now
Pachacuti
Politicker
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
Bummer that he didnโ€™t work out. I probably would have given him a second month but the writing was on the wall obviously.

A workspace isnโ€™t too big a deal but the backpack and CC was over the top.
oldcloser
Arsonist
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Iโ€™m from the month 2 school, really. But he was so off with everything he didโ€ฆ just couldnโ€™t tolerate it. Felt like he demeaned the job for the other guy who is killing it.
jefe
Arsonist
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The unmitigated gall on this guy combined with extreme laziness is shocking.

@unclespacejam is right - nepo-baby fo sho
unclespacejam
Politicker
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ur dadโ€™s brother
@oldcloser give us this guyโ€™s details and weโ€™ll spam his ass
oldcloser
Arsonist
1
๐Ÿ’€
so tempting
unclespacejam
Politicker
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ur dadโ€™s brother
Nothing serious. Just gonna sign him up for an unrelenting tsunami of sms and email blasts from every shitty internet mattress company, d2c company till his inbox is brimming full of bullshit
Revenue_Rambo
Politicker
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Director, Revenue Enablement
Did this moron get a corporate credit card? Would love to see what there were trying to expense.
oldcloser
Arsonist
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I donโ€™t think he had one of his own. Trade show expense report was all cash. I was gonna bring him to a pitch in MN. He lived in WI. Quick flight- good training value. He wanted to drive 6 hours. I wasnโ€™t having it, because he charged us .67 cents/mile for his 4 mile trip to the airport the first time. Seriously, a $2.68 expense item.

While he was 100% entitled to the reimbursement - who does that? And no- he didnโ€™t get a card.
butwhy
Politicker
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Solutions Engineer
The data never lies.
I went from a sales engagement platform as an SE to a company using it, and I was helping them with implementation and how to set up the sequences. While doing so, I was surfing through the data and noticed that two of the BDRs were faking the call numbers by dialing and hanging up immediately. None of them ever connected - but it looked like 100 calls were placed that day or whatever bs number was key.
Yyyyyeahhh, I kinda sorta got them let go. Sorry, dudes - grind doesn't include baloney.
oldcloser
Arsonist
1
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Well they really sucked at that. Everyone knows you call the cell. Wait all the way through the recorded OB message, the beep, and the recording time. This way you get the dial and the talk time. Will they ever learn?
butwhy
Politicker
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Solutions Engineer
Yours was smart enough to get the 500 dollar backpack, I guess.
braintank
Politicker
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Enterprise Account Executive
I enjoyed this story.

Assume founder didn't push back on you showing this goon the door?
oldcloser
Arsonist
0
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There was a touch of friction for a month as I was documenting. Getting the buy in to fire him took that long. Nobody likes to be that wrong- and as a life rule, I never use โ€œI told you soโ€ So, when the evidence became objectively overwhelming, it was organic.
Beans
Big Shot
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Enterprise Account Executive
Man this is an ideal situation to track the shit reps vs the quality and go back to CEO saying this is why I should decide.
oldcloser
Arsonist
1
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Statement has been made, diplomatically of course
Beans
Big Shot
1
Enterprise Account Executive
That ain't living up to the arsonist nametag.
oldcloser
Arsonist
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I actually go way back with my dude. It's a sick little incestuous kind of relationship. I don't have to tell him when he's dead wrong and dq'd from further participation. Events like this just draw territories. Then we piss on them to mark whose is whose.
TheDude
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Partnerships Lead
damn son, that guy sounds like a real piece of work
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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He sure did ask for a whole lot to give you absolutely nothing.
oldcloser
Arsonist
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he got the door prize :)
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