WTF HAVE I GOTTEN MYSELF INTO???

I was hired to manage a team at a company struggling to get more wins and everyone sucks. I've prided myself on being able to figure it out but they all are "yea but" and "that won't work" people. 1 sales guy hasn't had a sale in 2 yrs (yes I know, why does he still have a job?) 4 marketing people that don't work together and the admin girl knows how to fix everything and shes a cheeseburger away from 600lb life. WTF HAVE I GOTTEN MYSELF INTO??? Lil' help here or should I just run????

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Pachacuti
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
Go to your boss and tell him you need to clean house. It’s that simple.

If he ends up saying “yea but…” there’s your answer.
poweredbycaffeine
WR Lieutenant
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Yes! It’s time to take a big sweep across the table into the bus bucket. That 600 pounder might need a forklift.
SaaSsy
Politicker
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AE
Exactly, fire and bring on a new shiny team to train and take pride in. 2 years?!?! Unless it's in insanely long and complex sales cycle, I don't even understand how he hasn't had a mental breakdown and given up...
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
It's not a long sales cycle at all and you said it, he also has all the answers and an office for crying out loud.
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Account Executive
Probably just isn't working
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
That's the plan oh and, He is a she, ha
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
The non-performing sales guy is a she?
RedLightning
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Mid-Market AE
I think he means the CEO
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
the boss is she, the mes said, go to your boss and tell "him"
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
Got it. Yeah, time to find out if they will let you do some housecleaning. And/or bring in new reps.
Pachacuti
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
I don't deal in pronouns. ;)
jefe
Arsonist
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🍁
Blunt but correct.
detectivegibbles
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Sales Director
Diablo
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Sr. AE
Haha
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
Also the building had a flood right before I started so they moved everyone upstairs and there's no windows, insanely bright white lights and old ass cubicles.
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
This is the beginning of a movie. Seriously, all you need now is some kind of sidekick and a dog.
RedLightning
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Mid-Market AE
@Sunbunny31I'm picturing an office version of "Little Giants"
HVACexpert
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sales engineer
Definitely stars someone like John Cusack, and the guy who hasn’t made a sale is like a Randall Park or a Jonah Hill type
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
Really missing Chris Farley about now.
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
Maybe I can get @GeneralCorpin on this? not serious, serious ha
RedLightning
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Mid-Market AE
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
I think I get it...
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Tech Sales Leader
The sidekick IS the dog.
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
And there's been zero b2b email campaigns so YES clean house.
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
What is marketing doing? Sounds like nothing.
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
all 5 of them are doing the minimal for b2c, when I ask them questions about doing b2b its like a deer in the headlights. I found out they have 40k accounts in the database and 2500 emails and they have been getting sent a 1 page brochure every month over and over.
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
Holy cow.
RedLightning
Politicker
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Mid-Market AE
So, your marketing team has functionally put themselves into a spam filter of at least 2500 accounts?
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Director of Sales
Either clear house, or set the tone in that place. If marketing can't work together, sales guys can't sell, and an admin who thinks she knows it all, you need to get all those people in a room, and tell them how it is going to be. If people walk, then they walk. That's the same as clearing house anyway. Otherwise, there is a chance they will listen, and then you can start going to work.
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Team Lead, Enterprise Sales
This is the way.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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Fenderbaum
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Retired Choirboy🪕
Thanks Fox,now the song is stuck in my head.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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sketchysales
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Sales Manager
this has to be the best gif on the wr
punishedlad
Tycoon
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Business Development Team Lead
How many people are on the actual sales team? What's their performance like? What's the product?

I've got a lot more questions, but this is a good place to start.
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
There were 5 but 1 guy is out having had a back surgery, another guy just quit on my 2nd day and he was here for a month so now its me, an 80 yr old guy how doesn't like to use a CRM and the guy who hasn't sold in 2 yrs. it's an oral healthcare product.
HVACexpert
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sales engineer
Jesus man, what did you get yourself into indeed. These people have to go.
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
I thought I axx'd all the right questions during the interview process, looks like I done got got again.
Brave
Contributor
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AE
Must be good buddies with the CEO and he does not want to fire?
Sunbunny31
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Sr Sales Executive 🐰
I'm here for those answers too.
Maximas
Tycoon
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Senior Sales Executive
Don't you have the access being their manager to put em all into a PIP.

If an improvement was proven fine, if not that means that this place is not meant to be for em!
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
it's my 6th day and I'm trying to figure things out but something has got to be done.
Maximas
Tycoon
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Senior Sales Executive
Absolutely!
Diablo
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Sr. AE
That’s freaking crazy. Has there been any growth or the revenue is decreasing yoy?
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
Valid question
Fenderbaum
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Retired Choirboy🪕
Heavens to murgatroyd. This sounds like they've had no real direction or leader, so if you're that guy, be that guy and set some boundaries so these people can get out of their funk. And..maybe ban cheeseburgers in the office, unless they're bacon cheeseburgers.
SoccerandSales
Big Shot
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Account Executive
Why do I feel like I am reading the premise of a S.A.D. episode lol
FranchiseSalesQB
Politicker
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Franchise Sales QB
I demand to play myself.
Justatitle
Big Shot
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Account Executive
firing squad is coming...
oldcloser
Arsonist
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Put sales and marketing in a room with the admin. She'll eat them. Company saves unemployment.
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
Had a meeting with the boss lady and she said the guy with no sales in 2 yrs didn't sell anything because he was only doing "biz dev" so he wasn't tasked to "sell" well, why tell me he hasn't had a sale in 2 yrs. Oh and she says he's her best employee FML. She did say if certain people don't get on board then tell her first then we can cut them off at the head. to be continued.....
CRAG112
Valued Contributor
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Account Executive
A mute, deaf, blind seller could have sold something in two years.
BTQ
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Account Manager
this is nuts! Two years no sales what the fuck
TheRealPezDog
Notable Contributor
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Account Manager
Housecleaning time, gotta fire all of them and start fresh, rebuild.
CadenceCombat
Tycoon
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Account Executive
Yikes. I would def clean house if that’s an available option.
UncleHoho
Good Citizen
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Account Executive
coletrain
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Account Executive
You are now paid to be a change agent, I’m going to be harsh.

Hire another sales guy and PIP the “no CRM” and “no wins” guys. Figure out why customers are staying and focus that on ICP.

Confront the marketing people and tell them they need to come up with a b2b campaign and work with them to develop that in short order. Otherwise they walk the plank.

Do you really need an admin person for 8 people? Axe her ASAP, she’s redundant and with a couple sales people leaving/not winning you can’t afford her.

If these entirely reasonable demands are not met: you follow that guy that left on your second day because clearly he sees something that you also see.
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
Well said.
saaskicker
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Enterprise AE
Sounds like you learned the hard way and need to vet in your interview process better. To be in this position and be “surprised” is kind of on you - hate to say it, it sucks.
FranchiseSalesQB
Politicker
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Franchise Sales QB
I’ll take that. Valid point
WheelofCheese
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Sales Executive
You need to build your own team. This is a disaster situation based on what you described. Even if you polish a turd, it's still a turd. Sorry to be frank.
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
Thanks Frank, I'm Joe nice to meet you.
WheelofCheese
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Sales Executive
😂
cw95
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Sales Development Lead
Same position in terms of role.

Take the team for some drinks, they'll open up. Don't drink too much of course.

I joined a team as a sales leader to some SDR's that hated their role due to their previous manager...smashing targets now - treat both equally yet each individually! One is great on the phones yet one is more an email guy. Treat them as though you'd want to be treated.
FranchiseSalesQB
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Franchise Sales QB
Good stuff
Cazzipchic
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Account Executive
Time to announce changes in accountability and process. Sounds like they might just walk after that and you would be free to hire a team.
hatysam
Personal Narrative
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Account executive
Give me a chance and I can work on making a difference
Freddyfire
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vice president of sales
Run! There are tons of great companies and teams that can play to your strengths. The sooner you realize that you are not in the right environment to succeed the better off you will be. Time to find a better place to spend your valuable time
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Sales Director
Clean house dude.
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Self employed Author
They either give you the authority to cut your bait ( terminate everyone) and fish or you need to find another pond to fish in. Why were you hired? They forgot!
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Sr. Regional Sales Director
Follow the IBM model...or I can send you my resume as your new back fill.
CRAG112
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Account Executive
Yeah but..... That won't work...... because we tried that before...... and the house was still dirty.

Can't you like, work with what you have brah? Work together! Team, team, team!
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