How should I deal with potential offers and interviewing?

If you read my last post about interviewing, the update is that I did not get the job. Fell short by just a crumb but i'm not too discouraged since it was the best possible gig I could have ever dreamt of. Either way, if you didn't win, you lost...so back to the drawing board.


My question for you savages whom I love so much (fuck you if I used whom wrong): How do I go about interviewing with companies in different stages of the process?


I think I will be getting an offer this week but I have some other stuff lined up that is in the middle and beginning basically. This offer that may come is honestly towards the bottom of my list. I feel like I am in a pickle and it sucks that companies only give you a few days to sign on an offer. but I don't see what other way would work. So, what do I do? Do I take what is offered, continue interviewing, and then back out? I am exhausted of interviewing and now in a position where I need to take what I can get. I hate to be that person because I have reneged on offers before and it is a shitty feeling (but don't forget that we DO NOT owe these companies shit). I think a likely scenario that will happen is I have an offer mid this week and possibly finish up other interviews either end of next week or the beginning-end of the following week.


Would love to hear if you have been in a similar position, what you think I should do, and/or what I should tell companies if they end up offering but I'm waiting for another offer.

*Edit:

I totally forgot about the fact that this last company pushed MULTIPLE people to references. so then why would it be weird if I am in references for multiple companies? ๐Ÿค”ย 

<3 you guys/gals

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oldcloser
Arsonist
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Treat the entire game like a personal pipeline. If youโ€™re in a spot where you have to take any offer, do just that, then parlay. As has been said, youโ€™re not going to get any loyalty from any employer any time soon. So, sometimes you gotta take one for the cash flow, Fidel. Otherwise, if youโ€™re in a spot to wait it out, then do that. Just work them til theyโ€™re closed lost or won. Just another sales effort, only youโ€™re the solution. Find the best fit for you.
CuriousFox
WR Officer
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๐ŸฆŠ
@poweredbycaffeine I think videos exist somewhere...
GDO
Politicker
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BDM
personal pipeline is an awesome way of seeing it. Well put
fidelcashflow
Catalyst
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Account Executive
Damn, you got me with the wordplay ๐Ÿ’€ This is the right mentality though. I do have it but sometimes it is tough to swallow because I want to be the nice person. I was in a spot to wait things out but it is getting down to the wire.
A prime example here is when I have gotten verbals on deals and they swear they are going with us. Then a week or so later, they end up saying sorry sucker, we went in another direction. I guess the only difference is that I don't recall ever getting a signature and someone backing out.
Sunbunny31
Politicker
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Sr Sales Executive ๐Ÿฐ
Really good advice, and great explanation.
Pachacuti
Politicker
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They call me Daddy, Sales Daddy
Unless you feel strongly that an offer is not in your best interest, take the offer which comes in first. That doesnโ€™t mean you have to stay there.

Just like most companies have no loyalty to you, you donโ€™t have to be loyal to them. If a better opportunity comes along, take it. You need to put yourself first.
jefe
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ
This is the most important sentence in your whole post
"but don't forget that we DO NOT owe these companies shit"
It never feels good to back out, but how many companies feel the same way about pulling the rug out from underneath candidates and employees?
fidelcashflow
Catalyst
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Account Executive
Totally true. It is insane how companies get a pass to do whatever they want but the moment we employees start acting like them, it is frowned upon.
jefe
Arsonist
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๐Ÿ
Back when I was a naive youngster, well before I became jaded by the corporate machine, I was very much all about โ€˜a man is only as good as his commitment/wordโ€™.

But then life hits you.

Any semblance of this feeling that might have still been in existence was snuffed out last year (?) reading about companies that pulled offers after people had left stable organizations and were on work visas..
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Retired Sales Professional
From what I understand these companies drop even their best employees a heart beat if it is necessary, with no regard to whether they have or have not families so your correct you don't owe them anything. Do what is best for the quality of your life. Take what pays and keep looking for your ideal job. Good hunting.
Beans
Big Shot
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Enterprise Account Executive
Always stay fresh and ready and if a dream gig comes in, jump.
snafu_sales
Catalyst
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SaaS Sales
You need to buy time without burning bridges.
Honesty can work for you here: explain you are completing a few other interviews because, whilst you love company X and are thrilled to be getting an offer:
1) you made a commitment to the other company that you would see the process through before you made a decision
2) you want to make sure that you have done all the due diligence to make sure that when you do accept, it will be with 100% commitment that it is the right move.

fidelcashflow
Catalyst
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Account Executive
This is great. I don't see any issues with it other than the fact that companies can still decide to not care. Most companies want the truth but can't even handle it. I can see the possibility of them saying hey they that's great and we appreciate the honesty but we are only going to give you so much time. I don't went the offer pulled on me.
snafu_sales
Catalyst
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SaaS Sales
Most of the time if you keep it super positive and enthusiastic you can reach an agreement on a deadline that works for both them and you - then you can hustle the other processes along with that deadline in mind!
But if you sense there is a chance you lose the offer, might be safer to get some stalling tactics in (can I talk to a rep/see contract, benefits, comp plan etc./have my lawyer check anything before I sign it) ๐Ÿ˜‚
Kosta_Konfucius
Politicker
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Sales Rep
I will delay the process in these ways. When you are expecting an offer and its not your top place. Miss their calls and when they email you to set up a call. Say you are busy and give limited availability for the next day. When offered ask to set up with their leader or someone in the role to clarify questions, while negotiating the entire time.
So if you other opportunities dont offer, at least you got a bigger base
wolfofmiami
Opinionated
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Been there for an offer, but was probably getting an offer from a diff company in 2 weeks. The company offered I liked, but wasnโ€™t excited about the commission and the salary so I turned it down bc I trusted that I was gonna get a different offer in the next few weeks. I declined it late Jan and then around feb 10th accepted a different one.
wolfofmiami
Opinionated
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๐Ÿบ
If you believe in yourself and know what you have lined up, decline it.
fidelcashflow
Catalyst
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Account Executive
I mean dude, I totally believe in myself but I am not giving myself these offers. People think otherwise. I've been in situations like the other week where I was basically 100% convinced I got the role and didn't. I've also gotten offers after I felt like I for sure was not.
majestic
Good Citizen
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SE Leader
Look, some companies have even been laying off new hires after a few weeks into their new role. Like, they signed, declined all other offers and ended all interviews, started onboarding, and were laid off before their first month ended.
Iโ€™m in a Slack group of folks who were laid off from the same company earlier this year and heard this story more than 3 times - folks devastated and having to start all over again.
After hearing all that, I slept like a baby on Gravol when I accepted a role and then turning it down the next week once I got the offer I wanted more. And even at this 2nd company, Iโ€™m still getting paid to interview, because even better opportunities are popping up right now and, like you said, โ€œwe DO NOT owe these companies shitโ€.
Sorry, not sorry.
fidelcashflow
Catalyst
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Account Executive
Love it. I think the biggest factor is in your second sentence. We have all read the HORROR stories of people on Visas who land jobs and sign the offer. They then decline other offer/stop interviewing, move across the entire country, and sign a lease to just get laid off before their start date. I can't even imagine how it feels to be in that situation. So there is no comparison to me reneging before my start date. I am hardly hurting this company at that point.
They do us nasty nasty dirty while at the least, we might kick some dust on their shoes.
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